Cheesus posted:

The Clones drove Senator Organa away. I doubt they'd let others watch the show.

I could see her being the only one around (hiding) when a Clone Trooper reports "it's done Lord Vader, the Jedi have been eliminated" to the man she's always known as Anakin Skywalker.

site posted:

did people make this much of a deal when Ahsoka discovered Anakin was Vader in rebels

Karloff posted:

Nah, that's just dramatic irony. We know something the character doesn't and are waiting for the penny to drop in a dramatic way which creates tension. Like, in Jaws when the characters are debating whether it was a shark or a boat propeller, it's not a mistake that the audience KNOWS it was a shark because that makes the subsequent beach scene more intense. The audience has more knowledge, which creates suspense. Like the famous Hitchcock bomb under a table example.

Robot Style posted:

I think it might be down to audiences not being used to seeing the sabers cast light at all. Lightsabers are a graphic element rather than a realistic one, and audiences have gotten used to seeing them a certain way. They even mentioned in some of the prequel stuff that they they could have made the sabers cast light more often, but didn't because it lent them a more magical quality.




There's also the issue of the technology itself. Digital cameras respond poorly to the kind of highly saturated blue light given off by LED's, so often it will appear kind of blobby. Vader's saber looks fine for the most part, but when it's Obi-Wan on his own, camera's inability to photograph the light makes everything look lower quality.

Lobok posted:

With a 20-year gap it'd be fine. Or maybe even the 10 here for this series. Unfortunately the end of ROTS just had to make it explicit that there wasn't a gradual transition but basically an instant switch from young man Anakin to full-fledged OT Vader.

pik_d posted:

Yoda going HAM with a saber was sick as hell but old man Palps, the man behind the curtain, using one just seemed wrong to me. He's the one pulling the strings, having to get in a duel seemed like it should have been beneath him.

Kawabata posted:

Yeah I don't get it. You're Disney, you want to build your franchise, not pump out half-assed poo poo and run away with the money.

I said come in! posted:

Freck is my new favorite Star Wars character. gently caress you all.

I said come in! posted:

The frustrating thing about all of this is that Disney has the resources to make actual good Star Wars shows and movies, but they know they don't need to because your average person just doesn't care and eats up whatever. With Obi-Wan having the biggest premier to date on Disney+, we are going to continue to get low effort trash. Disney knows the bar is really low for what people will accept.

Hazo posted:

Man that animation was pretty bad starting out.

I do enjoy how it sounds like Yoda calls Dooku a oval office at 1:06

Lobok posted:

Would be a lot more interesting if the whole show was from Obi-Wan's first-person view like old PC dungeon corridor RPGs and with his face acting in the centre-bottom like Doomguy.

LividLiquid posted:

I'm of the mind that Show, Don't Tell is often misunderstood.

In film school, I had a spirited debate with a fellow student about John Wick, which is quite illustrative for this purpose:

Much of the introduction of John Wick being a badass was spoken dialog. It was told to us, but while that is characters talking, it is also the world of the film reacting to the fact of John Wick: You are absolutely hosed if you cross him. It is introducing tension and anticipation for the upcoming catharsis. John Wick, like Predator before it, is a slasher film in disguise, but in this case, it's the protagonist who is the slasher and the villains his hapless, frightened, victims.

People being terrified of John Wick was the film showing us, by telling us.

So when something like Star Wars tells us things, it isn't just saying what it's saying. It's also showing us things.

"General Kenobi. Years ago you served my father in the Clone Wars. Now he begs you to help him in his struggle against the Empire." That's telling, not showing, by some's definition. Many would argue we should've seen a flashback to these events, as it would be more cinematic, and there'd be far more people arguing this than there are had we not grown up not questioning how these events were presented to us. But the scene isn't about what Leia's telling us. It's about Luke and Obi Wan's reaction to those things.

So, often when films and shows are telling us something, they're showing us something else, and people with a Youtube understanding (or even a film school understanding, and often both) of screenwriting, directing, and editing, often want to point out how creators of things they don't like have "broken the rules" of filmmaking so their dislike of a thing can be weighed more as fact than opinion, but it can be an appeal to authority at best, disingenuous argument at worst, and wildly misunderstanding or misrepresenting the principles of filmmaking in either case.

Bip Roberts posted:

They never said what the meditation chamber smells like

bagrada posted:

So who is responsible for the most deaths by failing to finish off their primary antagonist, Kenobi or Batman?

Anita Dickinme posted:

Yeah seriously I truly loath how underutilized Hayden was. Like that half Vader/Anakin scene was loving amazing but I still can't believe there's only one flashback. I needed some Clone Wars flash backs of Obi-Wan and Anakin together fighting clankers.

Smythe posted:

sorry i was thinking about rygel

Vinylshadow posted:

I wonder what the name of the planet the last duel took place on

Mustadark? Chilltufar?

Farm Frenzy posted:

mike in particular has always had a tendency to give boring disney poo poo a lukewarm positive review because hes expecting it to be worse. they used to do it with every marvel movie and it annoyed the poo poo out of me

Vintersorg posted:

After I finished Clone Wars I loaded up episode 3 and it's just insane how much lesser it is than the series. I get it had 6'ish seasons of character development and adventures but even treating Ep 3 as just another arc from Clone Wars the tone and characters are all off. It's just so drat boring and the final fight is a joke.

That DICK! posted:

i always liked the RLM point that it would have probably been more moral for qui-gon to just beat up watto and take his poo poo

Vintersorg posted:

stev posted:

It could work. The fact that they've already planned out the structure of the second season indicates a level of forethought we haven't seen much from any other D+ show.

No Mods No Masters posted:

Yeah I mean, I think the movie pretty clearly gives poe, finn, and luke failures and lessons to learn from them that aren't that hard to parse (extremely messy details leading to confusion and argument aside). Almost all the other good guys feel basically in the weird "didn't fail, were failed" category.

Leia is a big problem thinking about her total lack of success in the actual structure of the conflict as the leader of the resistance, but honestly what's even worse is that rey has no particular connection to the nominal theme

No Mods No Masters posted:

Poe's failure: getting a bunch of resisters killed by not being with her
Luke's failure: getting a bunch of children killed by almost acting on a bad dream and then abandoning everyone
Finn's failure: becoming totally possessed by suicidal hate
Rey's failure: being too nice