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Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

I know this isn't exactly the right thread for it, but the only thing that Disney has in the works TV-wise from the Lucasfilm IP catalog that I'm looking forward to is the Willow TV show. That was a cool, goofy universe, and I'm glad that Warwick Davis is involved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGr9eD1Y4OQ

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Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017


Hell yes. Willow will bring back balance to the Force.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

nine-gear crow posted:

My disappointment is palpable that Disney didn't have the balls to just make an adaptation of Shadow Moon: The Sequel to Willow: The Novel co-written by George Lucas himself.

Yeah, the Chris Claremont trilogy is kind of weird. When I found out he was the guy who wrote X-Men's Days of Future Past a lot of the things in that trilogy started to add up.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

HK5000 posted:

Warwick Davis is a treasure and we'll all be happy to see more of him. If you're feeling down right now might I suggest "An Idiot Abroad Season 3" starring our friend who may be short in stature but large on life.

Life's Too Short is pretty incredible as well, even if it does have the stink of Ricky Gervais in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjGL-8qzJUA

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

HK5000 posted:

Never seen it but you got the last part right. I loved the Office (with him) long before it was a USA sensation and by then the jokes became stale. Still, thank you for introducing me to some TV I've never seen before!

Yeah, Ricky and Stephen Merchant are both in it playing themselves. There's a lot of them in it if you're done with them. However, here is a clip that is just Warwick and his idiot assistant installing and disposing of a washing machine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTxL-7atnGE

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

Star Wars opens with letters floating in space in an ordered and legible fashion, so you know all bets are off

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

New Star Wars pitch: Let's have Obi-Wan and Vader face off a la Inspector Gadget with Leia playing the part of Penny.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

Imagine that Leia chase scene, but instead of having medium sized humanoids chasing her she's fleeing an Ugnaught, a Jawa, an Ewok, and Yoda's mobbed up second cousin Yuigi.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

My Top 5 Star Wars Moments:

1) Battle of Endor (all of the storylines)
2) Death Star trench run
3) Battle of Coruscant
4) Rescuing Princess Leia from Prison
5) Escaping Jabba's Clutches

If I had more space, I'd include:

6) Maul vs. Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan
7) The Pod Race
8) Battle of Geonosis
9) Battle of Hoth
10) Anakin and Padme in the Geonosian factory

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017


Sorry about your bad opinions, bruh

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

Uh, NO! The Battle of Endor has three action storylines interwoven together: Lando & Co. fighting in space, Luke versus Vader, and the Gang fighting on the planet surface. Each part is perfectly scored by Williams, and keeps you on the edge of your seat. It's the last act, which means that any of the heroes might sacrifice themselves for victory.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017


:negative:

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

Madurai posted:

Let's be clear--it was destroyed in ANH. They specifically scuttled it and claimed it was destroyed in an accident. I don't know why they were calling that ship in RoS Tantive IV, because that obviously wasn't it.

It was the Tantive IV NCC-1701-A

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

I don't know about you, but I'm looking forward to the Disney edits of the classic trilogy where a CGI Princess Leia sends a new message to Kenobi that starts off with, "Remember those times you rescued me from getting kidnapped and told me never to let it happen again? Well, about that..."

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

fartknocker posted:

It’s gonna be an evil clone named Maace Windu.

Mace Winduu

Gotta be a double u, just like Joruus and Luuke

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017


When I first saw the thumbnail I was wondering what a young Hillary Clinton had to do with Old Ben Kenobi.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

How else are they gonna fund the 40-50 Boba Fett shows coming out if they don't shill Obi-Wan posters?

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

Bull's-eyeing a womp rat is what I call dropping a deuce in a urinal.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

Robot Style posted:

The other reason Natalie Holt gave for not including the iconic themes was that they didn't exist yet:

Which isn't true - anything that would make sense to show up in the Obi-Wan series was already established in the prequels. But Natalie Holt only watched the prequels once with her kid during lockdown, so probably doesn't remember which themes did or did not show up in them.

l-loving-mao

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

Obi-Wan is probably better suited to the Benny Hill theme

https://www.reddit.com/r/RedLetterMedia/comments/v01koo/leia_benny_hill_chase_obiwan_kenobi/

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

tsob posted:

Didn't the prequels also use a lot of the musical suite as a leitmotif to create similar musical themes that'd call the original trilogies music to mind, while being a little different? I wouldn't think that's really any different.

Hell, the Wikipedia article on "The Imperial March" says the song is outright used a few times in the prequels, including in The Phantom Menace.

The Imperial March is embedded in Anakin's theme, just like the Emperor's theme is embedded in the final celebration theme (it sounds very different because it's in a major key).

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017


Doctor Spaceman posted:

Yeah, and sometimes it was more direct and overt, like the use of the force theme

If you want a thorough run-down this spreadsheet details all the leitmotifs, where they were first used, what other films used them, and more.

EDIT: eg this bit from Phantom Menace has references both Yoda's Theme and Imperial March/Vader's Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pefoJcg6JzQ&t=59s


Yeah, it's pretty great how much opera they put in the space opera that is Star Wars.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

Basically the prequels are good and also my friends.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

teagone posted:

I hope Babu dies in the show.

I hope Grogu does the fusion dance with Babu Frik and they become Brobu Grig.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

mllaneza posted:

"Savage Oppress, Sith Courtesy Phone. Savage Oppress, you have a call on the Sith Courtesy Phone."

To be fair to Savage and Maul, they are Nightbrothers...

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

Sash! posted:

I never liked the part how it went from "elaborate dance" to "I jumped at you" to fuse.

Although I will accept "rocked so hard that it just sort of happened" and you become a flying rock demi-god.

Agreed on both points

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

When are we gonna get a Dengar show?

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

There was once one Babu Frik. That Babu Frik got bisected by a vibrosword. Rather than drop dead, Babu regenerated. Much like a flatworm, each half regrew into a new Babu Frik. This is how Babu Frik transformed from a person into a species.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

Cross-Section posted:



Screw this Poe talk, Rian Johnson's real crime was killing her off :colbert:

She's fun to fly as in Battlefront 2

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

Halloween Jack posted:

They shouldn't have let her use a private email server.

Incidentally, the First Order canteens started serving up a killer risotto shortly afterward...

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

Mameluke posted:

The bombers taught me that Star Wars is bad when it rips off world war ii

Trying to imagine Star Wars without World War II ripoffs, and I guess you've got a Space Samurai movie left?

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

Halloween Jack posted:

They took out Comet Claqball and Naboo-Style Pizza when they blew up Coruscant.

"Won't anyone think of the Younglings?!?" I shout as I aim the ultra-mega-mega-turbolaser at the nondescript and ersatz pizzeria.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

It's kind of messed up that Leia, who Lucas wanted to be the big hero of the Sequel Trilogy, is made to look like a clownshoe of a leader in the Sequel Trilogy that gets made.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

Sash! posted:

Take it to the next level and watch both at once

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNdb03Hw18M

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

No Mods No Masters posted:

Having bad instincts about who could be recruited into the resistance still seems a few orders of magnitude off of the other three. There are also no particular consequences to her mistake, in a way it's just upside since it gets the much more competent snoke killed and it makes her present to save everyone afterwards (though I think the lack of consequences is also a problem finn's failure has). Anyway if failure is the greatest teacher, as yoda says to the camera, rey's education seems borderline nonexistent

:agreed:

Take Luke's failures and the consequences he faces. Luke gets his rear end kicked up and down the OT. First, he is constantly getting owned by Uncle Owen. Can't even get those power converters. Next, he gets beat up by the Tusken Raiders and needs Obi-Wan to save him. Then he nearly gets killed in Mos Eisley's tavern because he's not careful enough. Chewie almost rips his head off when he tries to put the binders on him in order to rescue Princess Leia. He nearly goes down in a blaze of glory until Leia shoots open the garbage shoot to get them an escape route. Then he nearly gets eaten by a trash monster. He stands by helplessly as Darth Vader cuts down the last person he knew who had a connection to him. He almost gets shot down several times before managing to blow up the Death Star. In TESB, he gets punked by a wampa and nearly eaten. He nearly freezes to death until Han rescues him. He gets shot down during the Battle of Hoth. He gets clowned on by Yoda, and fails most of his training (from lifting the X-Wing to entering the cave). He runs off to Bespin and fails to save his friends. Instead, he gets his rear end kicked by Darth Vader, losing his hand and his lightsaber in the process. He nearly falls out of Bespin until Leia and Lando grab him. In ROTJ, he fails to convince Jabba to let Han go. Joining his friends in the "lets blow up the shield generator" mission lets Darth Vader know he's there. He gets caught in the Ewok trap along with the rest of the gang. He first fails to convince Vader to abandon the Dark Side. He fails to stop the Emperor, nearly kills his own father and turns to the Dark Side himself, and then gets caught by surprise by Palpatine's sparklefingers. He survives only because Darth Vader, seeing his son getting tortured by the person who turned him from the heroic Anakin Skywalker into the monster he has become, snaps out of it and throws Palpatine down a massive shaft*.

Despite all of Luke's failures he perseveres throughout the trilogy because he cares. He cares about his family, and he cares about his friends. That's what I have always loved about Luke Skywalker. He's not cool or suave. He's a hero who cares, who believes in the good of people and brings that good out in them. That's what happens with Han Solo, who throws away his chance at paying off Jabba to do the right thing. That's what happens with Yoda, who has all but given up hope in stopping Darth Vader and the Emperor. That's what happens with Anakin Skywalker, who after decades of doing evil and reprehensible things, does one final act of good before he dies.

I think that's a beautiful message, and I've probably made this effortpost before. However, I'm doing it again because I care. It is a stupid thing I care about, but I am a very stupid goon.

*Palpatine doesn't die, of course, continuing the proud Skywalker tradition of failing at things.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

That DICK! posted:

i just don't think carrie fischer had it in her to deliver at the level they needed for that to work (and god bless her, drugs rule, not giving a poo poo rules, star wars is stupid, she made all the right moves) and their failure to adjust to that fact, even after she died, was a big problem for the ST. the shoehorning of leia into the kenobi series feels like a pretty blatant attempt to get "the IP" back on track.

Which is a real drat shame because I think even as Lucas proposed it it robs Leia of a lot of what made her great. She's Luke's equal in force potential to the point where Obi-Wan and Yoda consider her a backup plan but at no point in the OT was she presented as relying on or at the will of the Force. She didn't need the Force! She had charisma and political will and strategic thinking and etc. She's the epitome of the "the Force is actually kind of bullshit and we should mostly ignore it" message I think TLJ was trying to get across, and they did nothing at all with it.

Everything they add to Leia to make her have greater importance in the Star Wars canon makes her lamer. The Kenobi tracker thing immediately comes to mind. Why couldn't she just be smart and practical, and reasonably conclude that the Empire let them escape because they were tracking them? Why did she need to go through that exact same scenario before to set it up?

The Obi-Wan show was a mistake. I appreciate that it redeems Hayden Christensen, it's just dumb. That being said, a Young Leia show where she's helping Bail Organa set up the Rebel Alliance (kind of like her Rebels cameos) would be pretty awesome where she clashes with arrogant Moffs while collecting information to pass along to the Rebels.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

Just Chamber posted:

Yea she's the dullest character in the ST, propped up by a good performance by Daisy Ridley and great performances by the supporting cast. I think there's very little interest in the continuing adventures of Rey.

Something always irked me about Rey and Daisy Ridley, and I finally realized why after watching Deep Blue Sea. She looks like Saffron Burrows.





Why should that matter? Well, Saffron Burrows was ALSO in Wing Commander!



And I loving HATED her character (and that movie) and the whole "THE PILOT WHO DIED DOESN'T EXIST!!!" thing that was her squadron's mantra. It's an irrational connection, and once I recognized it then that "irk" went away. It's not Ridley's fault that Croberts made the shittiest movie I ever paid good money to see in the theater.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

Darko posted:

She was fun in Rebels using her imperial status to gift the Rebels vehicles and making it look like she kept getting kidnapped by them and stuff. More of that would be great.

:agreed:

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

Why does Poe Dameron go from being one of Leia's most trusted pilots, who she sent out to make contact with Max von Sydow in their search for Luke Skywalker, suddenly transform into an unreliable hothead in the only Star Wars movie that takes place immediately after the previous one?

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Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

Jerkface posted:

Poe's whole thing is like: a hot, dumb himbo that is really good at killing stuff in a space ship. He is like that in the comics that run up to TFA, and he is basically like that in TFA. Sure he blows up starkiller base and the resistance ultimately gets the map key but most of the rebel pilots die, han dies, max von sydow dies, the republic blows up, etc.

Leia likes him because he reminds her of Han, who also bungles his way through things, and because he ultimately has a heart of gold. And he is hot. And Dumb. Leia is also trying to groom him to take over eventually.

The whole himbo thing is starting to become a tired trope.

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