Star Wars TV Megathread: Lights Out.

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Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

galenanorth posted:

It's the Star Trek: Beyond syndrome of a series' ratings being determined by franchise predecessors and franchise fatigue rather than its own quality. I had been thinking about not watching Andor because I was expecting the prequel-of-a-prequel to mean was wrong with Obi-Wan squared.

The name is loving terrible, you don't get watchers if people don't understand what they will see in the show. Say what you want about the Mandalorian or the Book of Bobba Feet: starwars fans hear the name and they know what they will get. Whoever selected the name of this show should be fired before we get a Asoka Tano show named "Fulcrum" or "Snips", a show about Captain Rex named "CT-7567" or " and a Anakin Skywalker show named "WIZARD!*". Was naming this show "Rogue" (0 implied) too loving hard? When i first hear a starwars show was named Andor, my first reaction was "Endor? Is it a show about ewoks ? Because i am not 4?". And it's a loving waste because the show is gooooooood.

*Wizard would have more people watching than Andor.

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Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Lobok posted:

Clem Shoots First

Jinnigan posted:

The Last of the Kenari

Jinnigan posted:

Tailor Tinker Star Wars Spy

FlamingLiberal posted:

something simple like Rebellion

All better, even the worst one. Or even just add "Captain" in front of Andor.

# ¿ Oct 18, 2022 13:59

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Infinitum posted:

Halfway through Andor.

A lot of fun so far, feels like an episodic Rogue One

Really liking it

It's really good and as much i don't like how the overall pacing is so slow, once it's over you are happy it was a slow burn and took the time to breath.

# ¿ Mar 1, 2023 14:04

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Yaddle is a female member of Yoda's species, she's in a bunch of the Jedi Council scenes in the prequel trilogy.

A whole Tale of the Jedis episode is about her death:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ic3kAlh7t0

# ¿ Mar 3, 2023 13:27

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Cheesus posted:

I didn't know I needed Grogu in a IG shell, but here we are.

"Think of the toys sell!" and here we are.

# ¿ Apr 12, 2023 09:48

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

nine-gear crow posted:

Basically The Book of Boba Fett was sold on the idea of Boba becoming the Don Corleone of Tattooine and he instead wound up becoming the Joe Biden of certain neighborhoods of Mos Espa, at best.

"Haaaaaaaaan Solo was a baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad duuuuuuuuuuuude."

# ¿ Feb 10, 2024 16:03

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Hryme posted:

The Acolyte trailer looked good to me. I am always up for watching Carrie Ann Moss be stylish. But I saw it on Youtube and the comments are a complete shitshow. What is up with people nowadays. Always whining about everything.

It's because pointless culture warfare controversies are what generates views and therefore money. It's what's up with people. Just a "WOKE!!!!!!!" in a red font in your video thumbnail and watch your viewership triple. Thank you, social media algorithms.

# ¿ Mar 26, 2024 08:08

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Rochallor posted:

I've started watching The Bad Batch, and honestly I can't even tell how good the writing is because it just looks so good. I dislike pretty much all CGI animation on sight, even the Pixar stuff before they started sucking, but there's just something so appealing about the slightly blocky, slightly dirty look of CW/BB. Give Filoni the money to make anything he wants with that toolset and let somebody else handle the live action stuff.

Disney's Shareholder: AND SPEND MOOOOOOOOOOORE MONEY???? You monster! Good 3d shows guy better makes us good tv show!

# ¿ Jun 25, 2024 07:53

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Marsupial Ape posted:

Yeah, you gotta say you like Andor, but not for the same reasons as everybody else, to actually start a fight.

I really like the Hairstyling and the beardwork in Andor far more than in Obiwan or Asoka. There is more life in Luthen Rael's wigs than in most hairs in the rest of the Starwars universe.

# ¿ Jan 22, 2025 09:57

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Marsupial Ape posted:

Andor is the best Star War because it's the 08th MS Team of the franchise.

THAT PILOT IS AN ACE!

# ¿ Jan 25, 2025 13:50

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Parkingtigers posted:

https://bsky.app/profile/agelston.bsky.social/post/3lndvq3bl422s

Honestly, the thought of extremely long boardroom scenes has me drooling. You're getting excited about the TIE Avenger, I'm getting excited by people sitting around a table in the ISB headquarters, we are not the same.

Those "boring" tables discussion probably has more direct or indirect impact on the way the Alliance will attack the Empire and the Empire are going to crush ten of thousands of people than any hour long montage of a Tie Avenger flying and blowing up poo poo, that's for sure.

# ¿ Apr 22, 2025 09:18

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Paracausal posted:

The absolute audacity of this series.

The Ghorman Tourism board presentation
MDMA Mothma
Luthen's absolute daggers
At home with the Karns
B2EMO being left at the farm upsector

Just banger scene after banger scene

Jerusalem posted:

Goddamn as good as ever, the climax of episode 3 was incredible but all 3 episodes were just packed to the brim with so much great stuff. I'm so glad the show is back.

"How nice for you..."

There are so many wonderfully nice small scenes, my favorite detail is probably the media people sucking their own dick in front of the Imperial Ghorman operation council: "THAT DEAD SOLDIER LAST MONTH?? WE DID THAT!"
Perfectly captures the scumminess of media executives, the kind who would be invited to a meeting to mine a planet to the core at least. The "We should just use a plague" fat general looks nicer in contrast.

# ¿ Apr 23, 2025 08:51

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

TheDeadlyShoe posted:

I liked a lot of the details and subtle humor in the TIE

My reaction to the seat was "that's totally the genre of pointless poo poo a prototype design team would add to a top of the line test machine to justify spending money on an overdesigned thing that totally does not need to be improved". It doesn't even look comfortable or helpful for piloting. They just needed an excuse to spend the money on a bullshit pet project and increase the facture to the Empire. A lot of experimentations on that small ship but who cares, Palpatine is paying.

# ¿ Apr 23, 2025 08:59

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Tender Bender posted:

I'm wondering if Dedra was feeding him information on smugglers/whatever that she learned through the ISB, to help his career. Hell with how she handled dinner with mom, it's entirely possible she did it without Syril even knowing.

It's possible. Also Dedra telling Syril's mom "we didn't know what we were missing" is probably my favorite 'I can't believe that show could be so funny' moment of the year.

# ¿ Apr 23, 2025 13:17

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Tender Bender posted:

At first I thought they left it deliberately vague and that we might get a reveal that they were just putting on appearances for whatever reason. But then with how Dedra was acting during the dinner, (both when she was nervously trying to impress mom and when she was chewing out mom), I think they're genuinely together, or at the very least she actually has affection for him.

It's also actually a really good move for Dedra's career. The worst thing that could happen to her is marrying a disloyal idiot. Syril may be an idiot, but he is extremely loyal to the Empire, and that's a big stability factor for her own career. Her husband is a loyal data crusher in the imperial administration. That's a solid step to dodge any prejudice against non-married women in the Imperial Force her rivals could use against her.

# ¿ Apr 23, 2025 13:33

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

PunkBoy posted:

Part of me wants an 8 hour loop of the club mix, but another part knows that listening to it will just make me feel the anxiety from the end of the episode again.

Set it to loop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E7gfpGql7w

# ¿ Apr 23, 2025 14:16

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Butterfly Valley posted:

Also a sincere gently caress you to whoever posted about the trailer with stormtroopers shooting at Brasso looking unrealistic and lacking consequences

Yeah in the trailer you could already see one of the stormtroopers take his time and aiming at Brasso driving away.

Alchenar posted:

The other funny thing is its literally Rebel Moon except Gilroy and the crew aren't hacks so they did something original instead of a bad seven samurai ripoff.

Yes, when they were sitting around that table, the first thing i though was "oh it's like in rebel moon, but it's not lovely!"

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Apr 23, 2025

# ¿ Apr 23, 2025 18:01

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Tender Bender posted:

This is why Count Dooku and the Separatists in general have the potential to be such interesting characters, because the Republic was the Empire, for years and years before the namechange. It gets muddled because Sheev was pulling the strings to make sure there was plenty of aggression to justify the Republic fighting back; but there were a bunch of true believers on the Separatist side who had serious legitimate issues with the Republic. Even Count Dooku had real ideals (the Tales of the Jedi shorts get into this) that led to him breaking from the Jedi and the Republic. They saw that it had essentially already become a fascist empire and wanted out.

But that stuff never really gets explored to a satisfying degree as far as I know. Would love to know what the vision of the future was for much of the Separatists.

"The Republic and the Empire are the same amalgam of corporate interests from the core world, only existing to exploit the rim and any periphery world. The political system is just the clothes they wear." - Any self-respecting Separatist

Arc Hammer posted:

They need the calcite in Ghorman's crust to shield their reactors. Now he never said where those reactors actually were or what they'd be powering.

Who is leading the project to get the Calcite? What project he is working on?

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 08:33 on Apr 24, 2025

# ¿ Apr 24, 2025 08:30

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Ethics_Gradient posted:

Luthen's How nice for you was ice cold and perfect, but Deidre's We didn't know what we were missing ain't getting enough love.

It was my favorite line too, and it will echo in my brain every time I rewatch the Sopranos, and Livia Soprano is on screen.

# ¿ Apr 24, 2025 17:18

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Bubbacub posted:

I liked the line from the Sienar technician saying "I've had fun here." I've had friends who work for defense contractors say exactly the same thing.

Most people would be surprised by how much joy some people* had working on projects like the V2 or Manhattan. It's not hard because the Manhattan Project was so secret that many workers had no idea why they did their jobs.
*at least those allowed to be people by their employer. I don't think the slave worker enjoyed the V2 factory. The idiots in administration may have.

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Apr 24, 2025

# ¿ Apr 24, 2025 17:22

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

BastardySkull posted:

So it was a French TIE Fighter, is what you're saying.

It didn't eject Andor, decapitating him, that's what i am getting from it. :france:

Also the chair was clearly designed by Phillipe Starck.

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Seine-ar Systems

# ¿ Apr 25, 2025 13:10

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

th3t00t posted:

- The Emperor being obsessed with becoming "energy independent" is a direct line from Trump

America is basically following a very clich� and uninspired fascist textbook these days. There is like a long history of the poo poo Trump vomit daily, and basically every country, openly facist or not, go after energy access, generally violently. It's just that Americans were never taught basic history. Hell, Soviet Russia was already aiming to become a net oil producer and exporter during the 80s, their Trans Siberian pipeline blowing up (Farewell Dossier) in 1982 basically accelerated the USSR fall, and the new oil fields and pipelines made Putin what he is today. Hell, Bush was going after Iraq's fields, and Obama had his "That was me, people!" moment about energy independence. And that involved oil in Indian reservations, if I remember correctly.

cptn_dr posted:

I hope we get at least one new mix of Niamos! each arc, presumably ending with a full John Williams-style symphonic version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QYtCYSGpuA

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Apr 26, 2025

# ¿ Apr 26, 2025 15:59

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Fish Appreciator posted:

Andor is wild. Like, you HAVE to consider it in the context of a Star Wars show for half the plot to make sense, but it only makes it clearer how tonally different it is than the rest of the Star Wars universe.

Yes and no, Starwars has been quite resistant to face honestly the implication of its own "resistance" theme, only facing it from the "glorious flash gordon" action side of it at the military level. Andor is just closer in terms of treatment to actual WWII civilian level resistance movies like Army of Shadows, Ashes and Diamonds, the Last Metro, Carve her Name with Pride.

# ¿ Apr 27, 2025 14:00

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

MrMojok posted:

What do you suppose the Empire did after the uprising on Ferrix?

Orbital bombardment? Full planetary enslavement?

They probably arrested many members of the daughters of ferrix.

# ¿ Apr 27, 2025 18:14

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

mllaneza posted:

Been done, and very well too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9GRYa_3gno

There are like 3 versions of the audio for this animation, here is the best (imo):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU

# ¿ Apr 29, 2025 15:50

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Youch posted:

Solid Polish resistance vibes on Ghorman.

Yes, whoever made up that fake Ghorman language worked hard to make it a mix of Polish and French intonations. So many small, nice touches in that episode, like the guards watching Pod Racings.

# ¿ Apr 30, 2025 05:11

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

HootTheOwl posted:

With those barets?
Vive le ghorman front

Just to point out that Lezine, the very loudly anti-imperial ghorman, is played by French actor Thierry Godard, who played a once-collaborating-with-the-Nazi factory owner then resistance hero (because he is in love with the resistance leader) in "Un Village Fran�ais" (A French Village). But yes there are many polish elements to the weird mix of resistance in Ghorman(aka resistances patchwork planet), even if there are two elements that scream French to my French rear end:
_ the "THEY ARE SO ARROGANT" propaganda thing, which is pure "Invasion of Iraq" period propaganda textbook. I guess Ghorman Silk will be renamed Freedom Silk sooner or later in the Empire. My great-aunt, who lives in Florida, vomited nonsense troublingly similar to what Syril's mom said, to my late French grandma by phone during that period. That Syril's phone call is a perfect representation of the effect of modern propaganda.
_ The whole extraction angle reminds me of recent talks in France during the last decade about fracking in France, which were pushed by American oil interests. We banned Fracking, but it could have gone differently if the main pro-fracking candidate hadn't lost the presidency in an unrelated corruption affair.

# ¿ Apr 30, 2025 07:52

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Owlbear Camus posted:

Another small bit I like:

Brick-like Ghorman guy who won't be waved off is annoyed that someone's trying to intimidate him with a blaster and starts a fight, but as soon as it goes sideways he immediately joins the squad without a word and helps Cinta. Dude isn't a bad guy or a loyalist, just some human with dark features who didn't want to be harassed by a bully with a gun...

He was also one of the men strongly complaining about the Imperial presence/stronghold during the meeting in the first episode. Pretty sure he would have said "okay, can i help?" if the guard had told him it was an anti-imperial operation.

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Apr 30, 2025

# ¿ Apr 30, 2025 10:07

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

DaveKap posted:

Look forward to hearing about how he became a big time rebel to make up for what he did.

Well, his character got a name. By Star Wars rule, he will get a thirty-page wiki, 3 backstories, and maybe a figurine by the end of the year.

# ¿ Apr 30, 2025 10:25

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

cptn_dr posted:

I'd have loved an entire season of Tinker Tailor Soldier Syril

I would love if Gilroy could get control of the remake of another non-Disney scifi show, like I don't know BLAKE'S 7, I would watch the 5 episodes every season (3 years).

# ¿ May 1, 2025 10:16

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Galaga Galaxian posted:

Maybe if you lived in the Core Worlds. The empire just took off the mask.

From the rest of the galaxy, the Core Worlds must feel like a bipolar bully that somehow manages to be worse than the Hutts in terms of scales.

# ¿ May 2, 2025 20:49

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Alan Smithee posted:

Like I�ll give TLJ credit for trying but rise really was just creatively bankrupt

God reylo was so stupid to begin with (writing love letters to a school shooter/serial killer in prison poo poo) and their attempt to hedge both sides with a �kiss of respect�
Fuuuuuuck out of here

That's my problem with TLJ: it's nice to try a new direction, the middle of the third trilogy of a billion-dollar franchise isn't the best part for it, especially if the next episode basically goes back to business as usual. Now, if the whole new trilogy had gone that way, sure. Also, lol at Finn's character arc going basically nowhere interesting.

# ¿ May 4, 2025 12:07

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Marsupial Ape posted:

Humans are the fascist species.

The Starwars race the closest to human is the Hutts. They destroyed their world, they moved to a new muddy planet, they colonized the moon, and they nearly killed all the locals, pushing the last survivor to live in the trashy underground of Nar Shadda.

# ¿ May 4, 2025 19:22

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Sorry, why is Dooku a count

In-universe, his parents were noble, and when he quit the Jedi, he took back his place in the succession line and claimed the money and title.
Also, the count-D thing and the fact that Lee is a descendant of Charlemagne/Frederick Barbarossa/Dante Alighieri through the Carandini family branch. His mom was an Italian countess.

# ¿ May 5, 2025 05:15

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

"Somehow Napoleon returned!" - an actual 1815 news.

# ¿ May 5, 2025 20:11

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Jerkface posted:

They did a really lovely job of basically laying out the galactic situation because JJ wanted to avoid "politics" . Its supposed to be a Cold War esque scenario where the Empire got scattered to some out lying regions and not really engaging in a shooting war with the republic which is why Leia goes third party to take them on. They had control of sectors/planets and were making forays into the wild regions. Weapons suppliers still built them ships and they obviously took over Ilum (which was a long standing Imperial project). They had sympathetic senators in the galactic senate who moved the republic away from full reprisals and towards the cold war system laying the ground work for their eventual return. However its SUPPOSED TO be shocking I guess that The First Order is so large and built up in TFA, like Poe is looking around in the star destroyer like "what the hell where did they get all this stuff" which doesn't really track with the later depictions or some of the backstory stuff (or Poe's entire comic book line they made for his backstory!). And the opening crawl to TFA says The First Order has arisen due to Luke vanishing, when clearly they will have been there all along.

its just poorly done, compared with the drip of information you get in the OT that connects everything together.

They should have just been upfront, The Empire was smashed in the war and pushed to the fringes of galactic space and have been biding their time.

I guess the new Republican had its own Chancellor Johnson after Mon Mothma was shot in the head during that Mon Calamari dancers performance of the "Squid Lake".

# ¿ May 6, 2025 05:29

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

FishFood posted:

I'm still processing these episodes, but one thing that really struck me was Enza's death. When she was thrown by that KX droid, my brain went "Oh, she'll be fine, this is a TV show and people are always ok when they get thrown like that," but then she was just loving dead because OF COURSE SHE IS and the senseless, stupid violence of the whole thing really sank in.

lol, my first thought was jeez, she landed on her spine, she is toast even if the shock didn't kill her.

# ¿ May 7, 2025 09:53

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Zefiel posted:

This is the first time, for me, that seeing a name in the 'producer' role finally means something noticeable on screen.

It's been little details here and there for the most part, some chicharrones hiding here and there, but Diego Luna really got to put input in

The whole Ghorman massacre has some very specific details from a watershed moment in Mexican history. I'm sure the whole is not meant to evoke any single event, but whew, this one felt so close to home.

Namely the detail both share and what makes me so sure Luna gave input about it, is that our massacre here was started by friendly sniper fire as well.

can I spoiler a link? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlatelolco_massacre oh yeah I can. I can make an effortpost later if desired, but for now it's super late, the Wiki article will have to suffice.

Yeah, there are sadly many historical situations like this. There was a similar event in Paris in 1848, which ended with 52 dead and 74 wounded after an "unidentified weapon" was discharged. I am sure many countries have similar stories to tell.

# ¿ May 7, 2025 10:10

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

BastardySkull posted:

Peterloo is another.

Yeah, I had forgotten that one. I guess we could add the Boston Massacre, Bloody/Red Sunday in Saint Petersburg, the Sharpeville massacre and of course the Bogside Massacre in Dery, Ireland. There is a long history of protesters getting shot.

# ¿ May 7, 2025 13:22

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# ¿ Jan 13, 2026 09:59

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Variable Fighter posted:

drat.

Also, my prediction was nonsense.

Time for a new prediction!
Eedy is going to become a Sith Lord and destroy Ghorman herself, as revenge for her good little boy.

The goon who said she was going to be Vilerat's Mother is probably right. I smell more Imperial Propaganda.

# ¿ May 7, 2025 16:37

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