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Dexo posted:I went back and looked, there were 3 times a Saber got turned on. Interesting. I read that scene in the cave as Yord primarily pulling the saber to use it as a lantern. I watched it in black and white, just for a laugh. I might watch all live action Star Wars like that from now on. Gives it a kind of '50s Kung Fu / B-Movie Sci Fi feel that makes me scrutinize the effects and the dialog less harshly.
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Baronjutter posted:They need to figure out a way to simply destroy the force. Having a tiny minority of uber-men with magic wizard powers who are constantly either trying to take over the galaxy or stop people from taking over the galaxy seems to be a big source of conflict. No force, no jedi, no sith, no super special people who are 10000x better and more important than everyone else. It wouldn't fix everything but it would be a step towards democracy and equality. 
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four armed CIA agents show up to your house in the middle of your kid's bar mitzvah demanding to test them to determine if they're actually genetically christian
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Marsupial Ape posted:All my other weird ideological and academic arguments asides, I'm from goddam Kentucky and "slicing the lock to the lift" is grounds for justifiable homicide. LOL I forgot that part. "Yeah no one answered the front door (we didn't knock) so we went ahead and picked the lock and just walked into your living room NBD."
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:So, normally I’d think that the reveal is gonna be that half of the witches refuse to give up Osha (probably lead by the horn lady) and attack the Jedi. The Jedi are forced into fighting in self defense, and it just so happens that Mae only sees the part where the Jedi kill her people with no further context. I would contend that if you are a special forces soldier operating on foreign soil and you break into someone's house, refuse to leave when told you're trespassing, talk about kidnapping one of their children (whether or not the kid wants to go), that they would then be within their rights to use force to remove your rear end, and if you respond to that by killing every single one of them except the kid, who you do then abduct, that is pretty loving far from self defense. (Of course we only know that the first half of this is the case from what we've seen, assuming there's not some type of unreliable narrator device being used that we don't know about.)
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I see a lot of people discussing this episode as if it was presenting only Osha's memory of these events, and we're likely to see that she's mistaken, or someone has manipulated her memory. That's not the impression I got while watching. I just kinda scrubbed through the episode and the only scene she's definitely not in after the Jedi arrive is when the coven is discussing whether to kill the Jedi. IMHO they didn't give us the context clues shows usually use to let you know it's one person's recollection. (Or I missed them.) One thing that didn't occur to me on first watch, adding insult to injury: After the Feds park their APC, while they're deciding whether to remove your children, they pull all their dirtbikes out of the truck onto your lawn and start welding on them and poo poo like it ain't no thing. rockear fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Jun 14, 2024 |
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To me the thing about Star Wars is it's written by Earthlings, and almost exclusively Americans. So you can't really hand-wave away the war crimes and stuff because "maybe they had Good Space Reasons for doing settler colonialism or whatever" because the writers are 100% doing allegory for Earth poo poo whether they intend to or not. Because they are Earthlings with Earth experiences and Earth frames of reference from which to draw. That's actually the most interesting thing to think about with regards to Star Wars IMHO. Trying to sus out how the author tried to write extra-terrestrially, in what ways they failed to do so, and what that reveals about their preconceptions and biases. Like: Glossing over how the Gungans were relegated to living underwater is a choice. And assuming that their audience would accept that as normal and fine instead of going "wait WTF is THAT poo poo about?" can tell you something about the author and their audience.
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galagazombie posted:I think the reason the Gungans live in the water is they’re water breathing frog men. [bugs bunny no meme but its jar jar.gif]
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Rexicon1 posted:If you’re watching for the first time I highly recommend watching it alongside the podcast by a bunch of ex Waypoint and Giantbomb people - A More Civilized Age. It’s excellent commentary and critique of a show for children.  I started listening to AMCA for Andor, and then went back to the beginning. Just recently caught up to them. Definitely enhances Clone Wars and Rebels viewing. The Tales of the Jedi and KotOR episodes are great too.
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Jun 19, 2024 15:40
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Yeah it's being review bombed due to having Black people in it (woke).
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Well that's nice of the Jedi: ok if your species is dwindling you can gently caress Ki Adi Mundi does have like 5 wives who dress like Mary Tyler Moore in the Dick Van Dyke show. 
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See with the seeker droids and the speeder I was like "oh he is outdoorsy and has hobbies" and in the scene where he and Sidious are skyping with Nute Gunray and them I was like "oh he gave up his seat to that elderly gentleman how polite"
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Jun 26, 2024 00:37
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I feel like the Ki Adi Mundi thing has to have a payoff that directly relates to why he says there haven't been Sith in 1000 years or whatever in the Phantom Menace. There's no other reason to put him in the show. The number of people that are gonna hoot and holler when they see Ki Adi Mundi on screen has gotta be dozens at most.
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site posted:I'm still mad jecki died but at least they gave her a baller fight sequence first Yeah that was unfortunate 
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zoux posted:Is there any wriggle room for Mae having NOT started the fire, or at least not the destruction of the temple Wild speculation: Torbin went all Pryzbylewski and tried to do a sick rear end tactical lightsaber throw on one of the witches for Failure to Comply and Mae force pushed it accidentally into something explosive "starting the fire."
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Jun 26, 2024 18:11
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Baronjutter posted:They made jedi smaller back in this era Yeah it's like when you go to the Old State House Museum in Boston and they've got John Hancock's coat that's too small for today's average 7th grader in there.
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Jul 3, 2024 17:30
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I agree with that assessment 100%. They do so many scenes where you're like "oh good they're about to do some dialog at each other now maybe there will be some character development or plot." Then it's super abstract in a very unsatisfying way, or they get interrupted right as they were about to say something you would give a poo poo about. It feels like stalling, which is insane for the format this is being presented in. It's like if BJ Honeycutt and Frank Burns spent 24 minutes on "What kind of evil doctor are you, Frank?" and Colonel Potter is in his office going "There's lots of politics in this war." and then you hear some helicopters and the credits roll.
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I think it suffers a bit from Surf Dracula Syndrome but to me it's good enough to keep watching. Also I think it's relevant that this is a "were going to keep making this until they cancel it" type of show, rather than something like Andor where there's an ending that they're working toward. So some of this may eventually just be "yeah season 1 & 2 had some weak spots but it gets pretty good after that."
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Larryb posted:Sort of curious if there will be any potential for a second season as well or if this is just a one and done show I read an interview with the show runner where she said three seasons were planned and that she wanted to continue beyond that if possible. I think she said she wanted to make this show until she retires. I think season two is already greenlit.
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rockear posted:I think season two is already greenlit. I just tried to find where I saw this and apparently I didn't LOL
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Sir Kodiak posted:Exist, we do, in the context of all in which we live and what came before. It surrounds us and binds us. you think from a jogan fruit tree you have fallen?
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I had a slight LOL at "oh hmm their midichlorian charts look the same maybe they tapped into a power dense enough to split one consciousness into two bodies?" Oh yeah totally. Good guess Big I.
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That turning into a mist stuff is a classic Force Witch bit. I'm not sure what she was trying to do there. Maybe just leave and take Mae with her?
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"oh i've stumbled across some kids playing in the woods I guess I'll just creepily stalk them tiptoeing from tree to tree and then scale the wall of their house so I can skulk around in the shadows" I know the guy playing Sol is a renowned actor but I'm curious what is supposed to be going on in his mind, because from the outside it seems like not a lot. It's giving Sling Blade for me.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:When Sol first saw the girls on the planet he was acting like he was in a horror movie, he seemed totally freaked out. Yeah when he saw the girls get pushed down for horsing off in the main hall he was full on 
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One thing that gets me is "I'm afraid these kids aren't safe!" MF have you ever seen jedi training? Hey kid put this blindfold on and this orb will shoot lasers at you while you swing around this amputator. Hey, you're 7 years old, go into this perilous frozen cave and find a khyber crystal! Better make it back before nightfall or enjoy being entombed in ice for a fortnight I guess!
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Stunt Rock posted:are we still accusing people of gaslighting for having differing opinions on the show or has that calmed down that will never calm down lol goons disagree about television without accusing one another of mental illness challenge -- level: impossible
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Yeah I forget the line exactly but when she says something to the effect of "this arrogance you're displaying right now is going to get all you guys killed one day" she's 100% correct about that! It's like the whole thesis of the first 6 movies.
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Hazo posted:where was Korril in all this? Headland implied pretty heavily in an interview that she hosed off to Dathomir to join / found the Night Sisters. https://nerdist.com/article/why-the-acolyte-mother-koril-is-probably-alive-on-dathomir/?amp
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Halloween Jack posted:I believe the word "Sith" started appearing in marginalia like the backs of action figure packaging, and in the novelizations. Vader's referred to as a "Dark Lord of the Sith" in at least one draft of the ANH script, though no one says it. Yeah there's actually a deleted scene from ANH where they refer to Vader as a Sith Lord at the Death Star conference table. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWZFhZxGeRQ&t=29s
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I know some people like to say that the throne room stuff in RotJ is "inconsequential, actually" because Han and Leia and Lando were gonna blow up the Death Star II anyway, but I feel like if Vader shows up at the shield generator poo poo probably goes down very differently.
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I think even if he did somehow know about Leia he wouldn't have taken her to Palpatine, as she's untrained and not really that valuable to them as an apprentice, at that moment. I mean, it would go however they write it, but... I feel like Luke and the gang's chances are much diminished trying to beat Vader in space battle, or in the open field where he's surrounded by storm troopers doing the kind of fighting he's been doing since he was a teenager. Going to the throne room and trying the mystical/emo route keeps Vader and Sheev occupied, and is probably their best chance at neutralizing them, as borne out by the events of the film. Even if Luke gets killed or is turned, it's probably still a win. (Unless they turn him really fast and then he hops in a TIE Advanced with his dad, which would be really bad.)
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Well, my assumption was that if Luke is turned he dies in the Death Star explosion with Vader and Sheev, but yeah that is also certainly possible. I guess my point is he wasn't just loving around up there doing dumb wizard bullshit while the real heroes did the Joe Six Pack Blue Collar work of destroying the shield generator. His role is very consequential to the outcome. Otherwise Vader just goes "Well poo poo, nothing for me to do here on the Death Star, I guess I'll go kill hundreds of rebels on Endor or blow up the Millennium Falcon or something 🤷"
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INH5 posted:If Luke can escape Death Star 2 before it blows up while dragging along first an injured Vader and then his suit the whole way to the shuttle, then I don't see why Sheev and anyone else who survived the confrontation in the throne room couldn't have escaped. Yeah that's fair. Those guys probably know better than to go out like Tarkin.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:As we all know Palpatine dying and not being able to escape and to live another day running a government-in-exile in the Unknown Regions is very important to the survival of the New Republic after all. 
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That shot of space suburbia with space lawns and space sidewalks and the classroom looking pretty bland. Very imaginative fellas.
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stev posted:If anyone's looking for an excuse to read the old Heir to the Empire trilogy, AMCA is pivoting to that for the next few months (taking another pause with Rebels). I'm totally hopping on this. I've also been semi-interested in those since they came out, but I kind of stopped reading fiction entirely for about 15 years and then never got around to them. Just ordered all 3 books last night.
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Just finished Bad Batch. That turned out to be really good IMHO. I think it's right behind Andor for me as far as the Disney stuff goes. I didn't love the Clone Wars season 7 special guest star spin off episodes, but they did a great job with the series. Omega was an exceptionally well written child character. They did a great job of covering the transition period between Republic and Empire in an interesting way that mostly rang true. Struck a good balance of tone where the Empire is dark and hosed up in a disturbing way and the stakes seem very real, but it's still a fun action adventure show overall. Good Star War. If they do an Omega Squad show I will watch it.
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Yeah at the beginning I was like "oh no there's a major character who's a kid this is probably not going to go well..." but they did a great job making her develop skills and street smarts and emotional intelligence over time. And the way the Batch fellas interacted with her was similarly given time to breathe and develop in a very uncommon way for this type of show. Also: I never understood what Hemlock was doing with his hand and the one glove thing. I must have forgotten something that happened in an early episode. Or maybe it was just a character affectation that had no explanation.
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I googled it and no one seems to know 
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