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Laphroaig
Feb 6, 2004

Drinking Smoke
Dinosaur Gum
Forums poster donoteat has managed to ride the leftist internet money-wagon to the fabled promised land; having a c-spam thread made. He did this by making interesting, insightful, and funny videos about urbanism, socialism, unionism, and various other isms that are cool and hip now.

His current series uses City and Skylines to grow a fictional city, called Franklin, which bears a passing resemblance to my home of Philadelphia, from its historical roots as a native village near a river all the way up to the modern era. Along the way, donoteat tackles topics from a left perspective while citing the historical movements, events, and changes that influence Franklin.

The next video incoming will be about Killdozer, which was a zoning dispute at its heart, and then next up will be Amtrak.

Primarily, this thread is for talking about urbanism and development. but that shits boring, so also talk about T R A I N S


The Youtube Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFdazs-6CNzSVv1J0a-qy4A

The Patreon where you can give donoteat all of your money and he will spend it on beer:
https://www.patreon.com/donoteat/overview

Medium:
https://medium.com/@donoteat

TRAINS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tLxb5rtmyM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVMsAgHy_IY

Laphroaig has issued a correction as of 16:58 on Oct 4, 2018

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Laphroaig
Feb 6, 2004

Drinking Smoke
Dinosaur Gum
https://www.history.com/news/8-things-you-may-not-know-about-trains

1. The term “horsepower” originated as a marketing tool.

James Watt didn’t invent the steam engine, but he did create the world’s first modern one, and developed the means of measuring its power. In the 1760s, the Scottish inventor began tinkering with an earlier version of the engine designed by Thomas Newcomen. Newcomen’s design required constant cooling down and re-heating, wasting vast amounts of energy. Watt’s innovation was to add a separate condenser, greatly improving the engine’s efficiency. A savvy salesman, Watt knew that he needed a way to market his new product. He calculated how much power a single horse working in a mill could produce over a period of time (though many scientists now believe his estimates were far too high), a figure that he dubbed “horsepower.” Using this unit of measurement, he then came up with a figure that indicated how many horses just one of his engines could replace. The sales ploy worked—we’re still using the term “horsepower” today—and his engines soon became the industry standard, leading directly to invention of the first steam locomotive in 1804.

3. Trains helped the North win the American Civil War.
Throughout the war, railroads enabled the quick transport of large numbers of soldiers and heavy artillery over long distances. One of the most significant uses of trains came after the Battle of Chickamauga in September 1863, when Abraham Lincoln was able to send 20,000 badly needed replacement troops more than 1,200 miles from Washington, D.C. to Georgia (in just 11 days) to fortify Union forces—the longest and fastest troop movement of the 19th century. Control of the railroad in a region was crucial to military success, and railroads were often targets for military attacks aimed at cutting off the enemy from its supplies. Union General William Tecumseh Sherman provided particularly adept at the art of railroad sabotage. During his infamous “March” through Georgia and the Carolinas, his men destroyed thousands of miles of Confederate rails, leaving heaps of heated, twisted iron that southerners wearily referred to as “Sherman’s neckties.”

6. The railroads also gave us standardized time zones.
Britain adopted a standardized time system in 1847, but it took nearly 40 more years before the United States joined the club. America still ran on local time, which could vary from town to town (and within cities themselves), making scheduling arrival, departure, and connection times nearly impossible. After years of lobbying for standardized time, representatives from all major U.S. railways met on October 11, 1883, for what became known as the General Time Convention, where they adopted a proposal that would establish five time zones spanning the country: Eastern, Central, Mountain and Pacific. The plan originally called for a fifth time zone, the Intercontinental, which was instituted several years later and became known as Atlantic Time. At noon on November 18, the U.S. Naval Observatory sent out a telegraph signal marking 12:00 pm ET, and railway office in cities and towns across the country calibrated their clocks accordingly. However, it wasn’t until 1918 that standard time became the official law of the land, when Congress passed legislation recognizing the time zone system (and instituting a new “daylight savings time” designed to conserve resources for the World War I war effort).

Grimoire
Jul 9, 2003

Laphroaig posted:


3. Trains helped the North win the American Civil War.




This thread has been blessed by the ghost of William Tecumseh Sherman

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

rent control

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
donoteat made me maoist

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

donoteat post ure mod list

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer
drat good poo poo

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

now that I know the premise, I'm absolutely hooked

the main curiosity is in showing how this tribe is going to get booted out in favor of a settlement, but I guess I'll have to watch to find out

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
:sax: will you ever play tropico 4 :sax:

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
This rules btw

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



when is the killdozer episode!!!!!!!!!!

Steak
Dec 9, 2005

Pillbug
donoteat rules and I proudly support his alcoholism via patreon

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Poniard posted:

when is the killdozer episode!!!!!!!!!!

Koishi Komeiji
Mar 30, 2003



Hey, give this dude a dang dollar for the bonus eps. I mean it's just gunna be an unlisted youtube video and a dollar is just a number in a computer but just do it anyway ya know? Somebody's gotta drink all those Hamm's™ :shrug:

GoLambo
Apr 11, 2006

Where is my shirt?

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

GoLambo posted:

Where is my shirt?

you sold it to pay rent

space uncle
Sep 17, 2006

"I don’t care if Biden beats Trump. I’m not offloading responsibility. If enough people feel similar to me, such as the large population of Muslim people in Dearborn, Michigan. Then he won’t"


we should try and get chapo to plug this. they love socialism and video games. (except for Matt)

epic weed mom
Sep 1, 2006

I used to live in Tulsa, and his bonus episode about Black Wall Street is remarkably detail-oriented and well-done, with information down to which particular streets the violence occurred on. It's just top-notch work. He's a fantastic content creator and he deserves many dollars.

Rent control.

donoteat
Sep 13, 2011

Loot at all this bullshit.
Who lets something like this happen?
i screwed up my schedule big time after a weird depressive period last week

fixed a bunch of stuff that was making me hate myself this week so i oughta be finished with killdozer by the end of the weekend hopefully

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

space uncle posted:

we should try and get chapo to plug this. they love socialism and video games. (except for Matt)

I think they've mentioned it on Twitter before, just not on the show

unbutthurtable
Dec 2, 2016

Total. Tox. Rereg.


College Slice
I'm on episode three and love the wawa easter eggs

An Apple A Gay
Oct 21, 2008

f o a m e r
s e s h

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
donoteat likes beers, he enjoys beers and drinks beers, troubling to say the least

Takanago
Jun 2, 2007

You'll see...
The urban planning threads were one of my favorite parts of LF so it's nice to have this. This series has renewed my contempt of the highway

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
It is about motherfucking time.

Just yesterday I hollered at the four other poor bastards at the bar about mercantilism, all because they said well we gotta have capitalism because what else is there? Barter?

my opener was that we should all go to the part of town where the housing aint' great, load people up in a pickup truck, and drive them to the part of town where the mansion was great, and loving kill all of the people there and take their poo poo

who the gently caress are you

im a lawyer

what kinda lawyer says that kinda poo poo

the kind that sues landlords, cops, and bosses

by the end we had a real bond going on, I think I could get them into real hosed up frontline red guard psychopaths with enough time and booze

and thats what this podcast is all about

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
its annoying when i hear people whine about how the filthy uneducated proles vote republican and dont agree with egalitarian principles or socialism or whatever, because in my experience, very, very loving few workers dont agree with statements like 'the police are far too heavy handed, and have too much power, while not doing enough to help people' and 'your boss makes too much money' and 'your landlord doesn't do anything for you but drain your checking account'


what im saying is, these freaking so-called socialists need to start hanging outside of bars chain smoking and accomplish some real rear end organizing

Laphroaig
Feb 6, 2004

Drinking Smoke
Dinosaur Gum
I generally find that the only people who hold those views quickly lose them upon, say, working with actual humans and not just posting online all the time. You can get into a NY/LA bubble, I suppose, of huffing your own farts ideology, but you can only eat from that trashcan for so long.

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
yeah no at the bar you start out with that hosed up absurd argument, and then act all shocked when they're surprised and trying to see if you're serious, then confuse them more by going well at least i'm not a loving liberal, with acid emphasis, which WILL confuse them even more they will have no idea what your loving program is

then they tend to get off balance and like back the gently caress off and say something like whoa man yeah all that liberal conservative poo poo, I dont buy into any of it, but it's what we've got / it's whjat works / it's how it always was / any other way is worse whatever

then you say yah well im tired of opening up with a compromise let's see what the bosses will give me in hourly wages to walk us back from those pickup trucks

then they get it, or you try something else or just stop talking to them

they dont know it but they're confused because their brain is going, wait, who wants to do an obama jihad on the rich but also loving hates liberals what is this unnamed thing

it'll bug them

it works like a ffucking charm, and it really is the zeit of our geist or whatever, the ticket to victory and all that

Martin Random has issued a correction as of 22:19 on Oct 5, 2018

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010
turns out economic segregation results in people having few opportunities to interact as equals with people in different socioeconomic situations?????

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Laphroaig posted:

6. The railroads also gave us standardized time zones.
Britain adopted a standardized time system in 1847, but it took nearly 40 more years before the United States joined the club. America still ran on local time, which could vary from town to town (and within cities themselves), making scheduling arrival, departure, and connection times nearly impossible. After years of lobbying for standardized time, representatives from all major U.S. railways met on October 11, 1883, for what became known as the General Time Convention, where they adopted a proposal that would establish five time zones spanning the country: Eastern, Central, Mountain and Pacific. The plan originally called for a fifth time zone, the Intercontinental, which was instituted several years later and became known as Atlantic Time. At noon on November 18, the U.S. Naval Observatory sent out a telegraph signal marking 12:00 pm ET, and railway office in cities and towns across the country calibrated their clocks accordingly. However, it wasn’t until 1918 that standard time became the official law of the land, when Congress passed legislation recognizing the time zone system (and instituting a new “daylight savings time” designed to conserve resources for the World War I war effort).

Excuse me Mr. Trains but standardized time zones are a maritime invention used to navigate longitude. Train nerds just stole it from sailing nerds :mad:

Grimoire
Jul 9, 2003

Larry Parrish posted:

what im saying is, these freaking so-called socialists need to start hanging outside of bars chain smoking and accomplish some real rear end organizing

2nded. This also works for getting dates fyi, so two birds one stone

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene

Larry Parrish posted:

its annoying when i hear people whine about how the filthy uneducated proles vote republican and dont agree with egalitarian principles or socialism or whatever, because in my experience, very, very loving few workers dont agree with statements like 'the police are far too heavy handed, and have too much power, while not doing enough to help people' and 'your boss makes too much money' and 'your landlord doesn't do anything for you but drain your checking account'


what im saying is, these freaking so-called socialists need to start hanging outside of bars chain smoking and accomplish some real rear end organizing
hm yeah let me hang out with drunken white truckers and preach to them about socialism and definitely not get my head kicked in

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Grimoire posted:

2nded. This also works for getting dates fyi, so two birds one stone

so we murder these birds and they bring us the women, or the women go to the dead birds

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

cargo cult posted:

hm yeah let me hang out with drunken white truckers and preach to them about socialism and definitely not get my head kicked in

not on a ticket of gently caress the rich / gently caress the liberals you dont

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Martin Random posted:

who the gently caress are you

im a lawyer

what kinda lawyer says that kinda poo poo

the kind that sues landlords, cops, and bosses

cool poo poo u hiring?

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

donoteat is real and strong and my friend.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

cargo cult posted:

hm yeah let me hang out with drunken white truckers and preach to them about socialism and definitely not get my head kicked in

Those drunken white hillbillies you don't like (and are the ones I talk to, because I live among them) are historically the most revolutionary segment of society lol. They got overtaken by the Black Panthers etc in the 60s though because the FDR/Johnson programs largely made life better for farmers and miners and stuff.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

cargo cult posted:

hm yeah let me hang out with drunken white truckers and preach to them about socialism and definitely not get my head kicked in

actually most people are amenable as gently caress you just have to not use the forbidden words

"Let me tell you about Marxism-Leninism and the Labor Theory of Value" is one thing; "the boss is loving us" is pretty goddamn universal though

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

when you think of other people like idiots they tend to pick up on it

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cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene

Larry Parrish posted:

Those drunken white hillbillies you don't like (and are the ones I talk to, because I live among them) are historically the most revolutionary segment of society lol. They got overtaken by the Black Panthers etc in the 60s though because the FDR/Johnson programs largely made life better for farmers and miners and stuff.
none of this precludes them from being sincerely racist people which makes talking politics with them outside bars as a brown person inadvisable. maybe they had revolutionary potential fifty years ago but theres no point in fantasizing that thats still the case

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