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Pakistani Brad Pitt
Nov 28, 2004

Not as taciturn, but still terribly powerful...



SirSamVimes posted:

Lignification is insanely powerful early game except against enemies who will just pelt you from out of your rooted range. You get a ton of health and armour and your minimal EV doesn't matter when everything basically bounces off you.

Fun fact, you also get a hefty bonus unarmed damage in treeform because smashing someone with a branch is a lot more damaging than punching them.

Oh so I wasn't hitting with my sword when I was all yakked up? For sure, it looked like I was riposting with my sword's brand while in treeform

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Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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ligmafication

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008






Pakistani Brad Pitt posted:

Oh so I wasn't hitting with my sword when I was all yakked up? For sure, it looked like I was riposting with my sword's brand while in treeform

You can still use weapons in treeform, the branch attack is only if you unequip and you only want to take advantage of it if you've already invested in unarmed or if it's early enough that your weapon skill is low and an un-skilled branch attack outweighs the weapon.

FulsomFrank
Sep 11, 2005

Hard on for love

For any noobs reading this: if you see Menakare or whatever his name is quaff a Lignification potion and watch him try and torment a tree pointlessly while you whack him.

I think you can do this with Grinder as well but I cannot recall.

Also, Sophia can be hit with a wand of paralysis super easily and murderized.

tylertfb
Mar 3, 2004

Time.Space.Transmat.

FulsomFrank posted:

For any noobs reading this: if you see Menakare or whatever his name is quaff a Lignification potion and watch him try and torment a tree pointlessly while you whack him.

I think you can do this with Grinder as well but I cannot recall.

Also, Sophia can be hit with a wand of paralysis super easily and murderized.

Wand of Paralysis works really really well on Nessus also, who is otherwise kind of deadly to mid-level players.

Meunkin
Sep 11, 2001

puppiespuppiespuppies

Haifisch posted:

Your morgue page has a chart that keeps track. Gooncrawl is kept track of here. You can get to your mainline crawl morgue by clicking on your player name in the chat box. Other branches may or may not have a sever-run morgue, depending on which server you play on.

Holy crap I never knew I could click myself in chat, this is great, thank you! It seems to track both CBRO and CAO together which makes me feel extra accomplished.

6.66 win % hail satan.

Superterranean
May 3, 2005

after we lit this one, nothing was ever the same

sometimes when Lair has a super nasty entrance that you're unprepared for, the best plan is to shrug and do Orc first.

FulsomFrank
Sep 11, 2005

Hard on for love

Superterranean posted:

sometimes when Lair has a super nasty entrance that you're unprepared for, the best plan is to shrug and do Orc first.

There was a pack of death yaks on my last run. It seemed excessive but unsure if it's crazy bad or not.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

I used to do orc first to see if the final level was an easy one but now you can get stone giants and warlords on orc 1 so it's a bit riskier.

Gorelab
Dec 26, 2006


I can appreciate trying to make the magic schools different, but removing throw flame along with turning it's baby version into fox fire just makes baby fire elementalist feel super super clunky.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused


Superterranean posted:

sometimes when Lair has a super nasty entrance that you're unprepared for, the best plan is to shrug and do Orc first.

Trying to do Ork before Lair is way more likely to get you killed than simply diving past an abnormally hard Lair:1

a fatguy baldspot
Aug 29, 2018



Gorelab posted:

I can appreciate trying to make the magic schools different, but removing throw flame along with turning it's baby version into fox fire just makes baby fire elementalist feel super super clunky.

I really like foxfire personally, itís a neat differentiation!

Einwand
Nov 3, 2012

You idiot.
In this world it's pet or BE pet.



Orc before lair is fine if you're a formicid, being immune to paralyze and the ability to dig killholes makes it pretty much impossible to die outside of warlords and the rare ogre/giant floor.

Kerbtree
Sep 8, 2008

BAD FALCON!
LAZY!


Dinosaur Gum

So, memory, but were you unable to pick things up off the floor while flying back in the day? Also, levitating existed?

Speleothing
May 6, 2008

Spare batteries are pretty key.

Fun Shoe

Yes. Floating and flying were different and you needed controlled flight to pick things up or go down stairs.

Pakistani Brad Pitt
Nov 28, 2004

Not as taciturn, but still terribly powerful...



http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Ranged_Combat

This is telling me if I want to do slings as a main weapon, that I should focus dex, right?

Serephina
Nov 8, 2005



Yes, but also wow .14 was a while ago. I don't think anything's changed in regards to cranking dex for slings, but just be aware.

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005



Strength weighting is definitely gone for melee weapons, I think it's gone for ranged weapons too. Dex increases accuracy, strength increases damage.
edit: all that stuff about stat-related attack delay is gone too, the only difference with ranged delay is that throwing has a minimum delay of 0.7 and crossbows have a minimum delay of 1.0. Otherwise it's melee-like, 0.1 reduction every 2 skill levels down to min(floor(base delay/2), 0.7) for bows & slings or the above minimums for throwing and crossbows.

kaschei fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Jun 28, 2020

PG-13 SEX DUNGEON
Dec 17, 2003



I'm starting to believe Frozen Ramparts is beyond overpowered for Formicid. Unaware enemies will flat out not walk into ice walls. This is a huge buff for infinite digging and allows for unprecedented escape, better than the old one-turn Wu Jian wall jumping. Absolute bombshell of a spell with even a little bit of stealth.

For reference, outrunning a black mamba with original Wu Jumping:

PG-13 SEX DUNGEON fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Jun 29, 2020

FulsomFrank
Sep 11, 2005

Hard on for love

PG-13 SEX DUNGEON posted:

I'm starting to believe Frozen Ramparts is beyond overpowered for Formicid. Unaware enemies will flat out not walk into ice walls. This is a huge buff for infinite digging and allows for unprecedented escape, better than the old one-turn Wu Jian wall jumping. Absolute bombshell of a spell with even a little bit of stealth.

For reference, outrunning a black mamba with original Wu Jumping:



Man, didn't realise there were still ASCII players out there...

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011
I got chased out of the Monster Hunter thread for garbage posting, now I shit up other Games threads with useless low-effort uninformed aggro noise. I somehow think "VN nerds" are beneath me and I belong on your ignore list.

More like Wu Jiump Clan.

Also, wow, PuTTY. Literally haven't seen anyone use that in 15 years, nostalgia high five.

odiv
Jan 12, 2003



I've tried tiles and I can't understand it as quickly. There's too much visual noise for me. It would be slightly better if I could play with tiles as I'd get a bit more information, but I just can't do it.

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005



Same but Iím also elitist about it

Really glad they added (polearm, poisoned, burning) descriptors and have died to not meticulously checking for flame (which is not tracked for you in console, you have to xv or pore through combat spam for the absence of messages about being engulfed)

bees x1000
Jun 11, 2020

Love and Anger


I've gradually converted from ascii to tiles, but I still do most of my crawling on the Android ascii port for convenience.

Playing my first proper Gnoll ever, what a nice change of pace to be able to consider using virtually any gear or spell you find.

Victory Position
Mar 15, 2004

Don't call me a hero.









Panic! at Nabisco posted:

Perhaps a god...I'm brainstorming here...Parellas? Pakelli? I feel like I'm onto something

PAKELLAS THE INVENTIVE APPROVES OF YOUR CURIOSITY

PG-13 SEX DUNGEON
Dec 17, 2003



FulsomFrank posted:

Man, didn't realise there were still ASCII players out there...

its the only way i`ve ever played. 0.3 didn`t have tiles and I never cared to switch.

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

MY PAPER SOLDIERS
FORM A WALL
FIVE PACES THICK
AND TWICE AS TALL




Does gooncrawl have an ASCII version? Because if not, Gooncrawl is the only potentially solid reason I can think of to move to tiles.

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FebrezeNinja
Nov 22, 2007



PMush Perfect posted:

Does gooncrawl have an ASCII version? Because if not, Gooncrawl is the only potentially solid reason I can think of to move to tiles.
I'm not sure where the most recent offline builds are linked, but it's available through SSH on crawl.kelbi.org
e: keys are linked from the servers list: http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto

FebrezeNinja fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Jul 1, 2020

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