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Giants are hilariously bad. Barkley is stupidly good and deserves better
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how did the panthers not boat race that team? oh yeah because rivera took his foot off the gas in the third quarter and they don't throw past the tens anymore
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Oct 12, 2018 12:36
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The giants are really bad
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Oct 12, 2018 12:40
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I'm glad the Eagles won. Not really much to complain about from that game except Barkley is hard to tackle/very good. Oh wait I forgot how horrifying our o line was. That was bad.
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Oct 12, 2018 13:14
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Transcripts of Mike Francesca's obituary for the Giants season https://www.nj.com/expo/sports/erry-2018/10/22af26fc0c254/nothing-left-here-for-eli-mann.html
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Chris James 2 posted:Transcripts of Mike Francesca's obituary for the Giants season https://www.nj.com/expo/sports/erry-2018/10/22af26fc0c254/nothing-left-here-for-eli-mann.html As much as I believe no one should read or listen to Francesca in 2018 this made me wonder: quote:"I've been an Eli guy all along. He's had a wonderful career here. There is nothing left for him here now. This is a bad team with a bad offensive line and they are going nowhere this year. If you bring him back next year, you are going to have to rebuild around here. To do that for the short-term, I don't even know if that makes sense anymore. It probably doesn't on the last year of his contract. The best thing he could do is go hook up with some team that maybe he could help. Sit and wait if somebody gets hurt." If Eli happened to be cut today and free to go wherever how many team would bite? There are probably some that should, but is that number like, 5 or 2 or....less than either of those numbers? I guess if we make this a thought exercise and just erase Eli from the Giants roster like he'd never been there the Giants should be one of the teams looking to sign him.
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Oct 12, 2018 13:37
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This is NFL Week 6, OP.
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Oct 12, 2018 13:44
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There's a bunch of teams with young qbs that won't develop or survive (Tennessee, Houston, Tampa) where he could probably do pretty well but they'd never pull that trigger.
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ulmont posted:This is NFL Week 6, OP. Urgh, Athanatos? Help a man out.... Also lol a OBJ headbutting a fan https://streamable.com/vekkt
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Oct 12, 2018 14:18
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Can we like a poll or a contest betting on what inanimate object a Giants receiver will attack next week? Trash can Bench Grass Helmet Eli Manning
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Oct 12, 2018 14:23
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waah posted:Can we like a poll or a contest betting on what inanimate object a Giants receiver will attack next week? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRzOK0YUVfs
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Oct 12, 2018 14:25
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even if the O-Line works, that defense.. yikes. poo poo, I think the defense from the SBXXV squad would be an upgrade if they all dressed up to play in 2018.
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Oct 12, 2018 14:29
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Just popping by to say Saquon Barkley is god I hope he's not doomed like Barry Sanders to play on a mediocre team for his entire career.
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Oct 12, 2018 14:38
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FizFashizzle posted:how did the panthers not boat race that team? *underarmor voice* WE NEED TO PROTECT THIS LEAD
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Oct 12, 2018 15:48
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Saquon Barkley actually playing up to his draft position! Shame about the rest of his team, though.
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Komet posted:Just popping by to say Saquon Barkley is god ha ha ha hahahahahaHAHAHAHAHA I don't know how to tell you this but the Giants are checking all the 90's Lions boxes
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Oct 12, 2018 16:31
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https://twitter.com/BenjaminSolak/status/1050771974270709760
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The Giants loving suck, Saquon looks like a potential HoF player and yet we still shouldn't have drafted him there with the needs this team has. Eli is loving unwatchable.
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Grittybeard posted:As much as I believe no one should read or listen to Francesca in 2018 this made me wonder:
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seiferguy posted:Saquon Barkley actually playing up to his draft position! Yeah, it's kind of funny to get the high end result of Barkley and still proving the stat nerds right. Even if he turns out to be Adrian Peterson or Barry Sanders, a home run at RB doesn't make a team good if the other pieces are a total mess. Though the giants are so bad that they might actually stumble into a top overall QB draft pick anyway, which may give them an escape hatch. Eli is so cooked though, https://twitter.com/billbarnwell/status/1050781317414162437
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Honestly if Barkley produces at the level that he does for the next 4 years on his rookie contract and the Giants can draft pieces around him the following year (mainly a QB and a line that doesn't suck which probably won't happen in 1 draft), then I don't think the pick is wasted.
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Kalli posted:Yeah, it's kind of funny to get the high end result of Barkley and still proving the stat nerds right. I like Barnwell's reply https://twitter.com/billbarnwell/status/1050782930488967168
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seiferguy posted:Honestly if Barkley produces at the level that he does for the next 4 years on his rookie contract and the Giants can draft pieces around him the following year (mainly a QB and a line that doesn't suck which probably won't happen in 1 draft), then I don't think the pick is wasted. Yeah, it just requires a pretty difficult sequence of events. The Giants had to suck this bad this season so that they get rid of Eli and have the draft position to get a top rookie QB. A great RB can help a QB develop, but it's no sure thing (just look at Dak or all the shmucks the Vikings tried to pair with All Day). Then they need to draft most of a competent offensive line over the next two drafts, which okay, they've got a solid LT, so the hard part's done there. And somewhere in the next two years, they also need to improve their defense, which mostly is going to be shedding a bunch of super expensive free agents from two years ago that regressed after a good 2016 and replacing them with... something.
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DariusLikewise posted:I like Barnwell's reply Yeah, I turned the game on when the score was 14-3 and watched through halftime at which I don't think Eli threw the ball further then like 10 yards downfield and had some of the slowest moving WR screen passes I've ever seen in there. Like dang man, I'm kind of annoyed I missed on some sweet Barkley runs (that one where he kinda half leapfrogs over a dude shoulder tackling him is amazing.)
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If the Giants end up drafting in the top 5 and can take a QB and they can sign a couple of veteran OL in the off-season(There's a ton available as of right now), Barkley/Engram/Beckham/Shepherd is the kind of skill grouping that allows a rookie QB to succeed right away.
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Oct 12, 2018 17:37
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Trade Eli for Fitzpatrick
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Oct 12, 2018 17:40
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Making my prediction in a week 6 NFL aftermath thread. The Giants will draft Drew Lock. Which is a shame for both the Giants and Drew Lock.
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CyberPingu posted:Urgh, Athanatos? Help a man out.... I was really hoping to see OBJ headbutting someone wearing his jersey while asking for an autograph.
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Oct 12, 2018 18:00
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Imagine if the Giants drafted as well as the Browns is a weird thought but its where we are now
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Grittybeard posted:Making my prediction in a week 6 NFL aftermath thread. It probably wouldn't be that bad if he got to sit, but lol at that happening
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I know nothing about Kyle Lauletta, but I don't see anyone talking about playing him. Is he so bad that it's laughable to think he might be an improvement? They drafted him in like the 4th, right?
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the mean lunch lady posted:It probably wouldn't be that bad if he got to sit, but lol at that happening Theres no reason to sit anyone anymore. Throw your 1st round to the wolves because the wolves arent allowed to touch them and defenses will give up 281 yards even to the shittiest QB in the league
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Jivesauce posted:I know nothing about Kyle Lauletta, but I don't see anyone talking about playing him. Is he so bad that it's laughable to think he might be an improvement? They drafted him in like the 4th, right? The backup is Alex Tanney who has thrown about 15 passes in 8 years in the league. They cut their 3rd round QB
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The Giants should load up on OL next year and punt QB toward 2020 2019 QB class, not great
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:The Giants should load up on OL next year and punt QB toward 2020 Or they could sign Kaep right now and be competitive next year.
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Barudak posted:Or they could sign Kaep right now and be competitive next year. You know they won't.
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SolusLunes posted:You know they won't. Of course, but Im just saying if they genuinely wanted to win now there is an actual no fooling way for them to do it and pick up a super high draft pick this season and send off Eli.
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Dear Giants fans thinking Dave Gettleman will spend money or take a chance, Get your drinking livers ready.
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I think you guys are ignoring the fact that last draft's QB class was considered a potentially historic crop while by all accounts the next crop is very underwhelming. For gently caress's sake Justin Herbert is the number 1 prospect at the moment, right? It makes the Saquon pick worse.Nissin Cup Nudist posted:The Giants should load up on OL next year and punt QB toward 2020 Ok so we're not ignoring it I guess, missed this post.
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