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Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

I've been running BOINC for about a year now, and I've been joining the Something Awful teams for projects such as Asteroids@Home, mainly as a way to show that I have stairs and I'm proud of it. Is there any incentive to not doing that, and joining some other team instead?

BOINC can be ran on something as small as a Raspberry Pi, although not every project will support the architecture.

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Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

Asteroids@Home has been a bit sporadic with available WUs lately, sometimes going days with no tasks to send out, but it's the only project that I've been contributing to for a couple reasons.

First, it's one of the few rare BOINC projects that actually offers WUs for the Raspberry Pi. Now, you're probably thinking the Raspberry Pi isn't that computationally impressive. It isn't. It takes two entire days just to complete a batch of four. My desktop computer takes four hours to do the same thing. What that means though is that when there are zero tasks for the server to send out, the Raspberry Pi is still doing WUs for days until the server has a new batch of tasks to send out. This plays a small part if you're trying to do something like manipulate team standings for fun.

The second is to see the Something Awful team climb in ranks, which I just do solely for fun. We don't really have an impressive size, but I just think it's funny that goons can outperform other teams like Microsoft and video game groups that goons would normally be competing against in other areas.

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

On Asteroids@Home, Team Something Awful isn't that big and we're nowhere near the top ten, but for some odd reason I do find a bit of pride in our recent credit score:



I don't know who is actually in charge of these goon teams, looks like it's mainly inactive goons...but perhaps they should be linked to the OP, so that goons actually know that they're there in case they want to join them.

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

mdxi posted:

I just joined Asteroids and the goon team as well, because yay science and gently caress 4chan. No workunits so far. I can't actually tell from the very sparse homepage: is this a CPU project, or a GPU project?

Asteroids@Home workunits are pretty sporadic. One day, you'll see a batch of a million WUs ready to send, and then four days later they're all gone. Then you have to wait a few days for the next batch to appear.

From what I can tell, Asteroids@Home claims to support the following:

  • BSD
  • Intel/AMD Linux
  • Mac OSX
  • Windows
  • Android
  • NVidia GPUs only
  • ARM Linux (Raspberry Pi)

The last bullet is worth pointing out because BOINC projects that support ARM Linux are rare, and in case anyone has a dozen Raspberry Pis they want to throw into this thing. You're not going to churn out WUs with them, but it does have an effect on the recent average credit score during times when everyone else is waiting for the next WU batch.

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

mdxi posted:

If you know of any others, let me know and I'll be happy to update the OP.

These are the goon teams I'm aware of. Note that most of these, but not all of them, are called "Something Awful". I find them by looking for team names with the word "awful" in them, though sometimes this returns non-teams registered by spambots.

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

OhFunny posted:

I signed the Something Awful team at World Community Grid up for a competition to see which team can earn the most points between today and December 2nd, so turn your machines on if they're idle goons!

I contributed some WUs to this during the time period, did we win anything?

In other news, in Asteroids@Home Team Something Awful has broken the Top 100 in recent average credit for the first time since I've been tracking it. This score goes up and down quite dynamically depending on availability of WUs and how many goons we have dedicated to the project, but this is the first time I've seen us break 100--we're #99 now. Our total credit score has been going up too, we're now #361 in rank. This is an awfully big deal to me because I don't want to see space rocks with dumb names like (9001) Derpyhooves going around our sun.

Asteroids@Home actually submitted 762 new asteroid models to DAMIT back in September based on WUs between then and last year (I think), so they actually do produce results.

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

In Asteroids@Home, Team Something Awful is looking great here. We have broken into the Top 50 in recent average credit for the first time in my memory. It was just this last month that we broke the Top 100. We're also #331 in total credit too, and that's been going up substantially. A lot of these teams have fifty or so members in them, but are really just one or two people doing all the recent work.

Asteroids is one of those projects that seems to run out of WUs every week or so. Apparently, this is attributed to availability of hard drive space on the server end. Since this is generally my only project, what I do to make sure my computers always have work in the meantime is I tell my BOINC clients to store work up to five days in advance:



Don't do this if you're doing other projects as well, especially Africa Rainfall.

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

On Asteroids@Home, Team Something Awful continues to make gains. In total credit, we have broken into the top 300 and we continue to be going up. Our recent average credit ranking is even more interesting though, right now we rank #35. Observe:



Never mind pulling ahead of 4chan, goons are now doing better than Russia, Ukraine and the entire US NAVY

OhFunny posted:

edit: I see A@H WUs give a flat 480 points of credit regardless of completion time.

Yes it's still 480, even if a Raspberry Pi running on all four cylinders takes two entire days to finish four WUs. I guess it balances out somehow because those things are cheap in both hardware and energy costs.

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

Anyone know who Zilcon is, the founder of Team Something Awful on Asteroids@Home? Looks like some pubbie just joined a few days ago and is attempting a hostile takeover.

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

I also did a few hours ago, this Zil goon is gonna have a full inbox even if it's not them. I guess it's a taste of things that could come to all of us if we can't get the founder changed to an actual goon. I asked them to make me the new team founder, but that was before knowing the thing about the email addresses.

OhFunny posted:

Team leaders have access to our email addresses.

This needs to be mentioned in the OP I think in case goons don't know this, assuming there's no way to turn it off.

Apparently, there is though. If you go to Your account and then Asteroids@home preferences I see this, but I don't know if this actually works:

Tuxide fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Feb 5, 2020

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

Ladies and gentlemen, I am pleased to announce that I am now the new leader of the Something Awful team on Asteroids@Home. After four years of honorable and respectful service, Zilcon has stepped down and I have been sworn in to take his place as the new founder. I promise to do my best to serve this team and not to screw this one up.

OhFunny posted:

I'm not sure if the founder on Asteroids@Home can see what our email address is.

I can confirm that the Asteroids@Home founder can definitely see the email addresses of its members.

My legal team has advised me that I need to tell you guys if you don't want me seeing what your email address is, then you need to go to Your account, then Asteroids@home preferences, then Edit preferences, uncheck the Is it OK for Asteroids@home and your team (if any) to email you? box and hit the Update preferences button. This will hide your email address from the team admin's members list so team founders can't see them, in case there's another pubbie hostile takeover attempt. Oh, and this should probably be in the OP as well.

In other Asteroid news, we have risen to #278 in Total credit. We have surpassed teams Anime@home and EG Union (aka Elite Games), two BOINC teams that rightfully don't deserve to be above us. EG Union is a rival player group in Elite Dangerous. A few years ago during the Dangerous Games event, goons came in second place with only EG Union beating us. This latest movement puts us justly on top of them where we belong (least when it comes to mapping real asteroids).

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

In space-related news, SETI@home will stop distributing work by the end of March.

SETI@home posted:

On March 31, the volunteer computing part of SETI@home will stop distributing work and will go into hibernation.

We're doing this for two reasons:

1) Scientifically, we're at the point of diminishing returns; basically, we've analyzed all the data we need for now.

2) It's a lot of work for us to manage the distributed processing of data. We need to focus on completing the back-end analysis of the results we already have, and writing this up in a scientific journal paper.

However, SETI@home is not disappearing. The web site and the message boards will continue to operate. We hope that other UC Berkeley astronomers will find uses for the huge computing capabilities of SETI@home for SETI or related areas like cosmology and pulsar research. If this happens, SETI@home will start distributing work again. We'll keep you posted about this.

If you're currently running SETI@home on your computer, we encourage you to attach to other BOINC-based projects as well. Or use Science United and sign up to do astronomy. You can stay attached to SETI@home, of course, but you won't get any jobs until we find new applications.

We're extremely grateful to all of our volunteers for supporting us in many ways during the past 20 years. Without you there would be no SETI@home. We're excited to finish up our original science project, and we look forward to what comes next.

Meanwhile, in Asteroids@Home, the Something Awful team has been going up and down between #29 and #27 in the Recent average credit score, averaging around 150k output. If goons can raise this by another 100k, that'll put us on the coveted Top 20 list where we belong. Our total credit ranking will climb to #225 next time the board refreshes.

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

I'm going to be switching from Asteroids@Home to Rosetta@Home for the time being to do COVID-19 stuff, after my current batch of Asteroids WUs is completed. Asteroids are fun and we need to map them all anyways if we ever want to get off this rock and preserve the survival of our species. As long as we're all still stuck on Earth though, I encourage everyone to give COVID-19 work priority.

Rosetta doesn't have any work for ARM Linux, so I'll still be doing some Asteroids WUs.

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

Rexxed posted:

I setup F@H on a few computers but they haven't had many work units available due to the uptick in people in the last week or two. Is rosetta at home having the same work shortage?

Not that I've seen, but my experience with Asteroids is that it changes every day. BOINC projects like Rosetta@Home have a "Server status" page that tells you if there are tasks to send out or not.

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/server_status.php



When the Tasks ready to send number hits 0, that means there are no tasks to send until they prepare a new batch of workunits, and that could take a few days.

If you're running only a single project from BOINC (in this case, Rosetta@Home) and you want to make sure your computers always have workunits to crunch, what I do is fire up BOINC Manager and tell BOINC to store up to five days of work in advance:



Don't do this if you're doing other BOINC projects as well, especially Africa Rainfall. Doing this with Rosetta and running Folding as well is OK, but I don't know if there's an equivalent to storing work with the Folding@Home manager.

Tuxide fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Mar 23, 2020

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

There's a phishing scam going around targeting healthworkers who are being asked through email to install "Folding@Home" to help fight COVID-19, but are instead given a link to malware.

Make sure you are actually downloading BOINC and Folding@Home from their respective websites.

BOINC
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/

Folding@Home
https://foldingathome.org/

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

I managed to turn in a WU for Folding after realizing I could get around my heating issues by underclocking my graphics card. I mean I knew I could do this, but the AMD dashboard wasn't being cooperative to me earlier.

Apparently, TN-Grid offers WUs for ARM Linux, so I'm setting my Raspberry Pis to it once they're done with their current Asteroids work. After that, I'll have everything I have working on something COVID-19-related. In the meantime, I made a Something Awful Team for TN-Grid because there wasn't one.

mdxi posted:

Please let me know if you have any ideas for stuff that should be there.

Here are some things I thought of for adding/modifying. It'll probably need to be edited again once SETI@Home goes into hibernation in a few days.


quote:

BOINC/Grid computing: [COVID-19] Numbers Go Up, the good kind


BOINC or Folding@Home?

If you're choosing between the two, BOINC is probably the easier to set up. BOINC also has more configuration options. Folding@Home is only protein work, so if you want to do projects related to space, then you're using BOINC.

If you just want to do COVID-19 work, do both BOINC and Folding@Home. Set up Folding@Home to do work with the GPU only. On BOINC, sign up for Rosetta@home from the BOINC Manager--this is a CPU-only project. Both projects complement each other--Rosetta is used to predict the most likely protein structure, and Folding is used to model the process of protein folding using all-atom molecular dynamics models, and could be based off of Rosetta's results. You can also sign up for Ibercivis and TN-Grid for more CPU-only work. For Raspberry Pi, set up TN-Grid on BOINC. For the Raspberry Pi 4B 4GB model, Rosetta@Home is also an option, but only if you're using 64-bit ARM Linux like Ubuntu.



Is there any way to tell Folding/Rosetta to only do COVID-19 work?

For Folding@Home, what you can do is tell it to prefer COVID-19 work over work for other projects, by setting your Cause Preference to COVID-19. You will still occasionally get work for other projects though, so in no way does this actually guarantee you'll be getting COVID-19 work assigned to you.

Generally, however, no. Folding and Rosetta are both currently giving COVID-19 work top priority, but there is also an overwhelming number of new users. What that means is that as long as there is work available for COVID-19, then you will get work for COVID-19, but there is no guarantee that work for COVID-19 will actually be available.



How do I know I'm actually doing COVID-19 work?

For Folding@Home, check the workunit's five-digit project number, then look it up on the list of active projects for Folding. If the project description is something like 11741 and it says something like "SARS-CoV-2", "Coronavirus" or "COVID-19" anywhere on it, then you're doing COVID-19 work.

For BOINC Rosetta@Home, check the name of the workunit through BOINC Manager. If it has COVID-19 anywhere in its long-rear end name (for example 7mt1me6n_jhr_design1_COVID-19_SAVE_ALL_OUT_903149_1_0), then it's COVID-19 work.

For BOINC TN-Grid, look for the following tokens in your workunit names:

  • ACE2 AGT AGTR1 AGTR2 REN MME DPP4 PRCP MEP1B MEP1A XPNPEP2
  • DPP4 INS GIP SLC5A2 SLC5A5 ADA GCG GLP1R
  • Any name from 165735_Hs to 166977_Hs

If a workunit doesn't meet this criteria, it doesn't necessarily mean that it isn't for COVID-19, unless you can tell it's for something else.

For BOINC Ibercivis, it'll say something like "Covid-Phym, Fight against SARS-CoV-2 replication 0.01" in the application name.



Should I overclock?

No. Don't ever do this.

The goal of grid computing is to complete years of non-stop computational work, not getting the high score on 3DMark. Overclocking will only lead to hardware instability, and you end up completing less work because of it.



Should I use my laptop/phone?

Generally no, but it depends if the project is time-sensitive, how long you have your device powered on and how long it takes for it to complete workunits. There are goons who use Android phones and laptops for Asteroids@Home and that's OK, but not for something like Africa Rainfall.



My hardware has heating/voltage issues! What to do?

Don't torture your hardware, nobody's asking you to do that. If you think your issues are fixable, here are some tips:

  • Graphics card -- You can always just do CPU-only work. If you can't complete work because Folding@Home is complaining about heat, then you can underclock your graphics card and see if that helps.
  • CPU or Raspberry Pi -- In BOINC Manager under Computing preferences, set your CPU time so it says something less than 100%.



No workunits are available! What to do?

Sometimes a project just runs out of workunits because everybody claims them faster than the project can create new ones. This is common. If you're running only a single project from BOINC and you want to make sure your computers always have workunits to crunch, then fire up BOINC Manager and tell BOINC to store up to five days of work in advance:



Don't do this if you're doing COVID-19 work because you'll just be delaying the work from being done. Also, don't do this if you're doing other BOINC projects as well, especially time-sensitive ones like Africa Rainfall.



Raspberry Pi? Really?

Not many projects have work for the Raspberry Pi, but there are a few. These are the ones we know about :

  • Asteroids@home
  • Einstein@Home
  • Radioactive@Home (no idea how it works, but you need to buy a sensor)
  • RakeSearch
  • Rosetta@Home (Pi 4B 4GB model only, requires 64-bit ARM Linux like the latest Ubuntu, recommended computing preferences set to 75% memory usage)
  • SETI@home
  • TN-Grid
  • Universe@Home
  • Yoyo@home



Should I join a team?

It's up to you. BOINC projects have teams you can join, which are collections of users whose contributions are counted together for bragging rights.

* When you're part of a team, all your points/runtime/etc are counted toward your personal stats, and also toward that team's stats.
* You can belong to only one team at a time.
* Points earned while on a team stay with that team if you leave; you can't move points from one team to another
* On BOINC, team founders have access to the email addresses of its members. If you want to join a team and you don't want the team founder knowing what your email address is, then on the project webpage go to Your account->Preferences for this project->Edit preferences and uncheck the option Is it OK for whatever@home and your team (if any) to email you?

Also, goon teams do exist. Here are the known Something Awful teams on BOINC:


And also the SA Folding@Home team--team name is "SAGoons".



I want to search for the aliens! What happened to SETI@Home?

SETI@Home is now in a state of hibernation and is not currently offering new workunits.

Tuxide fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Apr 26, 2020

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

Rexxed posted:

SETI@home will stop distributing work in a couple of days:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/

This is supposed to be the day they go into hibernation, but as of now, they're still sending out workunits. Those that I've managed to get now have a deadline of May 23, so they might still be accepting results after they go into hibernation.



I haven't done this in a while, but here's where the goon teams look on BOINC rankings.

In Asteroids@Home, we've risen to #201 in Total credit. I'm currently trying to encourage work on COVID-19-related stuff so our Recent average credit score on Asteroids has been going down, but we've peaked on #25.

In Rosetta@Home, our Recent average credit has gone up by six times since I've joined. The top team board is highly competitive as more people become interested in COVID-19 stuff, but we currently rank #77 in Recent average credit and #256 in Total credit.

In TN-Grid, this is not a hard board to get on because not too many BOINC runners know about it, but I turned in a single workunit and we're on it now. Goons are currently #85 in Recent average credit and #161 in Total credit.



Folding@Home has some new COVID-19 work to do. If you want in, you'll have to tell Folding@Home to accept CPU work while limiting the amount of CPU usage BOINC can use, but there's no guarantee that you'll actually get COVID-19 work.

https://foldingathome.org/2020/03/30/covid-19-free-energy-calculations/

Tuxide fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Mar 31, 2020

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

That same person who requested foundership change on the Asteroids@Home goon team a couple months ago requested it again. It hasn't even been ninety whole days since I became the founder, and there's supposed to be a 90-day deferred period where no new foundership requests are allowed. Either way, it's clear now they don't read this thread.

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

Stanley Tucheetos posted:

I'm trying to use my gpu with folding but its stuck at ready looking for work. I guess with the uptick of users there is less to go around.

Folding@Home is kind've a hit-or-miss now. It's either they have work or they don't, and even when they do, it's either COVID-19 or not. I managed to get a COVID-19 WU for my GPU earlier and I'm crunching it now, after a couple days of nothing.


Tweeter99 posted:

Looks like rosetta@home may be running a bit low on WU's.

The stats here: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/server_status.php show only 2151 WU's ready to be sent out.

If you want to make sure you always have WUs to crunch in BOINC, you can tell your BOINC Manager to store more days of work in your computing preferences.


Tweeter99 posted:

does anyone know if there is any other BOINC projects doing COVID-19 CPU work that could use a hand?

TN-Grid. They don't target COVID-19 directly, but apparently their focus is on the equally-important ACE2 protein that SARS-CoV-2 binds on to. It offers CPU work, and it's the only COVID-19-related project I know of that offers work for ARM Linux.

This isn't a project that's listed in the BOINC Manager, and they want you creating your account on their website instead of through BOINC Manager. Instructions on how to join are on their project page:
http://gene.disi.unitn.it/test/index.php

We also have a team for goons:
http://gene.disi.unitn.it/test/team_display.php?teamid=216

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

mdxi posted:

Tuxide, I'll fold your OP recommendations in soon.

Understood, it's out-of-date anyways now that SETI@Home is taking a nap.

SETI@Home posted:

Final data is in the splitter queue.

As promised, we've stopped the process that puts new data into the queue today. Data distribution will continue until the files shown on the status pages are done. We'll be accepting results and resending results that didn't validate for a while.

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

Rosetta@Home is now working to add workunits targeting ARM Linux on their alpha project Ralph@Home. That includes the Raspberry Pi, however, given the memory requirements for COVID-19 stuff, whether it will actually lead to COVID-19 work for the Raspberry Pi outside of the 4GB model 4B is questionable.

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

From what I've been seeing, on Raspberry Pi they really want you to set your BOINC Computing preferences to use up 75% of your RAM.

EDIT: Also there's the issue of disk space on the Raspberry Pi because Rosetta@Home takes up a fuckton of it.

Tuxide fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Apr 5, 2020

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

Cygni posted:

Guess i gotta start making the little number the big number again. Switched to Rosetta and joined da goon team. Heres to the next 17 years...

e: perhaps I can push us these guys on the team rankings!



Welcome! I'll have you know that our cause is a noble one because we're fighting COVID-19, and also maybe I'm just being selfish but I'd rather not have some "wonder drug" with a name like derpyhooveshentaioxylene being shoved into the hips of every American.

Rankings have been pretty dramatic this past week, Folding and Rosetta have been brought up a few times on the COVID-19 thread on GBS, so we're getting new goons from there too. Here's another rundown of team rankings.

In Asteroids@Home, we've crossed into the Top 200 for Total credit and are now #196. Our Recent average credit score has been going down as expected due to our recent focus on COVID-19 stuff.

In Folding@Home, I guess the goon team rose to #49 in rank? I'm pretty sure we were #50 last I checked.

In Rosetta@Home, we continue to rise. We have risen to #71 in Recent average credit (right below Team Brony@Home) and #245 in Total credit.

In TN-Grid (which doesn't have a whole lot of contributors), Team Something Awful has only existed for a week, and we are already #23 in Recent average credit and #97 in Total credit. Adding another 5,000 to the recent average credit score will get us onto the Top 20 board, but this gap has been widening.

Tuxide fucked around with this message at 08:10 on Apr 7, 2020

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

TN-Grid is still offering COVID-19-related gene stuff in case anyone is skeptical as to whether they're actually contributing anything meaningful. From what it sounds like, the latest news is they added about 730k workunits covering 1242 gene isoforms towards the start of April, all related to COVID-19 in some way.

Sounds like the ACE2 work was completed a couple weeks ago and handed off to the scientific community. Since then, they've expanded to include genes related to ACE2 (regardless of whether they're relevant), DPP4 and related genes, and multiple cell lines including HEK-293T and A549.

If you want to know if any of your TN-Grid work is actually COVID-19-related, look for the following tokens in your workunit names:

  • ACE2 AGT AGTR1 AGTR2 REN MME DPP4 PRCP MEP1B MEP1A XPNPEP2
  • DPP4 INS GIP SLC5A2 SLC5A5 ADA GCG GLP1R
  • Any name from 165735_Hs to 166977_Hs

All three of my Raspberry Pis currently have 60 COVID-19-related WUs assigned, so we'll see how much work actually gets done. I'm guessing about half of the WUs have already been assigned though, but there's still work to do here.

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

Some more number movements this week.

In Asteroids@Home, our Total credit ranking has gone up to #195, and it'll probably continue to go up for the foreseeable future as we focus on COVID-19 stuff.

In SETI@Home, now that it's in hibernation, we stopped on #201 in Total credit. That rank doesn't look like it's gonna change unless they start pumping out WUs again.

In Folding@home, we remain on #49. The project as a whole is now 2.4 exaFLOPS. It was 1.5 exaFLOPS only two and a half weeks ago, so if the trend continues then it will probably be double that amount by the end of April.

In Rosetta@Home, goons have risen to #62 in Recent average credit (ahead of team Brony@Home finally) and #229 in Total credit.

In TN-Grid, our Recent average credit ranking has been going up and down from #22 to #24. We're #22 as time of writing, but it's attracted more BOINC users to gene research because of COVID-19. If we want the goons on the Top 20 list, we still need to close the gap by another 5000, and this is probably only going to get wider. Our Total credit ranking is sitting on #88.

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

jonathan posted:

When I first checked a few days back, Team SA was reported at #46

There's a per-month ranking as well, that's probably where you're getting that from instead of the overall stats. Goons are currently #49 overall in Folding and #47 for April 2020.

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

jonathan posted:

I'm having trouble finding the # of work days settings in boinc (or whatever was mentioned in the responses to my questions a few days up). I was using the actual boinc manager settings within the app in my sys tray. Not the web interface.

This is the setting we're talking about. What I have shown is fine for something like Asteroids, but I wouldn't recommend it for COVID-19 stuff.

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

Discussion Quorum posted:

We have 9 goons, not all of whom are active, and just broke the top 20. If nothing else it's worth adding for when your Rosetta WUs dry up.

Those "inactives" on TN-Grid are new goons, we're just waiting for the credits to start printing.

Now that goons are #20 on TN-Grid, guess we need a new goal? Let's go for #19! There's a 5500 gap to close between the goons and Team arm.powered, where every single one of them is running some degree of ARM Linux. One of these nerds has BOINC running on a couple routers running OpenWrt lol

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

Number movements this past week:

In Asteroids@Home, our Total credit ranking remains on #195 as goons focus on COVID-19 stuff.

In Folding@home, we are still ranked #49. Folding peaked above 2.60 exaFLOPS sometime last week, then it went down to 2.58 exaFLOPS; dunno what's up with that.

In Rosetta@Home, goons have been going up and down from #62 to #64 in Recent average credit (currently #63), even though the numbers themselves have been going up. We are #217 in Total credit.

In TN-Grid, our Recent average credit ranking has gone up to #17, beating Team arm.powered. I guess now that we're on the Top 20, we gotta shoot for something even higher. #16 is Team SETI.USA, and there is just over a 4000 gap between goons and them. In Total credit, we have risen to #80.

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


Lipstick Apathy

Is anybody else not getting COVID-19 work assigned to them in Rosetta@Home? In Rosetta, how you tell is if a workunit has COVID-19 in its task name. Maybe it's just me, but it seems some projects are either done or are finishing up their current work.

TN-Grid seems to be on the final stretch of what they're currently doing for COVID-19. The current relevant batch of workunits there start with a prefix going from 165735_Hs to 166977_Hs, and they seem to have been assigning these in order. I'm currently seeing a 166813_Hs on my own list of tasks.

In Folding news, the latest Folding@home client now gives you an option to select COVID-19 as a cause preference. This means you can now tell it to prefer downloading COVID-19 work over work for their other projects, like cancer. This won't actually guarantee Folding will be churning COVID-19 work, however.

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


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Discussion Quorum posted:

New project targeting CoViD-19:

https://www.csic.es/es/actualidad-del-csic/el-csic-e-ibercivis-lanzan-un-proyecto-de-ciencia-ciudadana-que-busca-farmacos
https://boinc.ibercivis.es/

It's in Spanish but they're looking for existing antiviral drugs that could be used to treat CoViD. Not many users yet but I gather that the team (or at least the institution) has run BOINC projects in the past. Looks like there are no work units available at the moment but having literally just launched, that's not really surprising - there are about 25k tasks currently in progress though.

I went and made a goon team for it. Website's kind've broken, but it doesn't look like it'll take much to get on the very top.

https://boinc.ibercivis.es/ibercivis/team_display.php?teamid=41

It looks like it's CPU-only, and they only target x86/x86_x64 architectures, meaning no Raspberry Pi (yet).

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


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Discussion Quorum posted:

Based on this and my lack of space for building a dedicated crunchbox at the moment, I may supplement my Pi 3's with a couple more recent SBCs. The new Odroid C-4 looks like it may be good for this if it truly delivers Pi 4 performance without the heat issues.

It would be expensive to set up equipment-wise, but I would be curious to see how a Turing Pi with seven Compute Module 3+'s can do in comparison.

EDIT: Seeing 166920_Hs on my TN-Grid task list, so it looks like we're on the home stretch. As a reminder, the end should be 166977_Hs, unless they put out more COVID-19 work. Also, I am getting COVID-19 workunits from Ibercivis, so we can add that to the list of projects BOINC goons fighting COVID-19 should subscribe to.

EDIT2: I know the OP hasn't been updated yet, but I've been making modifications to my post a couple pages back with updates that I think should go on the OP. Also, there's a really good effortpost on the GBS COVID-19 thread by forum poster Cacafuego on the process on making drugs and vaccines, and in silico testing's role in it.

Tuxide fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Apr 26, 2020

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


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This week in numbers:

In Asteroids@Home, we've gone up to #193 in Total credit, even though we're still focusing on COVID-19 stuff.

In Folding@home, we've gone down two ranks and are now #51. Folding's compute power has now risen to 2.62 exaFLOPS.

In Rosetta@Home, I've just gotten some new COVID-19 workunits from Rosetta@Home, so COVID-19 stuff is still going on there apparently. Goons are now back in #62 in Recent average credit, and we have risen to #203 in Total credit.

In TN-Grid, some people have reported that they've gotten workunits outside the 165735_Hs to 166977_Hs range, so maybe their COVID-19-relevant work will come to an end around the start of May, I don't know! Our Recent average credit ranking is now #15, and our Total credit ranking has risen to #76. Good job!

In Ibercivis, the goons are now #19 in both Recent average credit and Total credit. In other words, we're already in the Top 20 on both lists. This is a smaller project that just got started and there's no Gridcoin here yet, so climbing this should be easy (or would be if they supported ARM Linux).

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


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This week in numbers:

In Asteroids@Home, we've climbed to #187 in Total credit, despite the fact we're still focusing on COVID-19.

In Folding@home, we've briefly gone down to #52 and are now back on #51. Folding's compute power has dropped to 2.38 exaFLOPS.

In Rosetta@Home, I'm still getting COVID-19 workunits from them. Goons have dropped to #67 in Recent average credit, and have risen to #197 in Total credit. Of note is that their project URL has changed to https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/ (they switched from HTTP to HTTPS) so goons who haven't switched yet will need to remove Rosetta@Home from their BOINC Manager and re-add it using the new URL. Note that BOINC Manager still has the old URL listed, in case new goons want to add Rosetta and don't know this.

In TN-Grid, all my workunits right now are outside the 165735_Hs to 166977_Hs range, so maybe their COVID-19-relevant work is over. Some people are reporting that they're still getting COVID-19 work, but it's sparingly. Our Recent average credit ranking has dropped to #16, and our Total credit ranking has risen to #70.

In Ibercivis, we've dropped to #24 in both Recent average credit and Total credit. Available workunits have been sporadic in the beginning, but they're ramping up now.

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


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Here we are in numbers right now. There seems to be some fatigue in a few areas fueled by lack of information coming from some of these projects, so there's been nothing terribly exciting to report.

In Asteroids@Home, we've climbed to #181 in Total credit.

In Folding@home, we've dropped to #54. Folding's overall compute power has dropped to 2.24 exaFLOPS.

In Rosetta@Home, goons have dropped to #75 in Recent average credit. Once again, we are competing to stay ahead of Team Brony@Home. We have also dropped to #203 in Total credit. Info from Rosetta seems to be siloed to Twitter for whatever reason, but they do report the following:

Rosetta@Home posted:

"COVID update:

Our project scientists submitted over 28M "scaffold design" work units in recent weeks.

Those helped enable a further 200M "binder design" calculations!

Initial laboratory testing of these candidate COVID treatments is underway.

Thanks to all crunchers!"

"This is just the first wave. Expect hundreds of millions of additional work units to be issued in the coming weeks and months.

We need you now more than ever!"

In TN-Grid, our Recent average credit ranking has dropped to #19, and our Total credit ranking has risen to #68. They're still offering WUs outside (but near or related to) the range they specified, but I wouldn't be surprised if they expand it anyways due to how the experts are now saying SARS-CoV-2 affects the cardiovascular system as well.

In Ibercivis, we've dropped to #35 in both Recent average credit and Total credit.

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


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I know it's been a while, but here's an update from TN-Grid dated May 25. Basically, the membrane stuff is done and the SARS-CoV-2 fight has moved on to the immune system, particularly antibodies.

TN-Grid posted:

The first batch of genes related to COVID-19 has been completed. We sent the results, for further analysis, to the Univ. of Modena & Reggio Emilia School of Medicine, Italy. Starting from today we added another batch of genes, per request of the aforementioned institution. Most of them are antibodies, so the focus right now is the immune system.

Here is the list of the genes: PTPRC CD28 CCR7 PDCD1 SNCA SPATA2 CD27 B3GAT1 IL7 IL2RA ISG20 FAS PTPN13 CD38 CD74 CD24 CR2

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


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An update from Rosetta@Home concerning the fight against SARS-CoV-2. Sounds like the University of Washington over in Seattle found something from all the Rosetta workunits, and they'll soon be moving on to in vivo animal testing.

https://twitter.com/RosettaAtHome/status/1276324218582360065

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


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There is an update from Ivercivis, the Spanish BOINC group that was looking into using existing drugs to fight SARS-CoV-2. From email:

Ibercivis BOINC posted:

Thank you for collaborating in the Boinc COVID-PHYM project

Dear Tuxide

During these days we have finished the first phase of the COVID-PHYM project, which means that, during the next few weeks we will not have workunits -at least until the firs days of october- to process.

The CSIC research team is currently working on the first scientific article using the obtained results, which will be available in pre-print in the coming weeks and we will send it to you by mail.

These are the credits you have obtained with your participation in the project:
CREDITS: 25527

You can also download your certificate of participation in the project by clicking on the following link.

In the next days we will return with BOINC. From Ibercivis we want to thank you deeply for your collaboration in the project and we hope you will continue with us from September.

Kind regards
Ibercivis

Download your participation certificate

Team Something Awful ended on #37 on the Total Credits ranking. Good job!

Tuxide fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Aug 28, 2020

Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


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Less Fat Luke posted:

Anyone seeing a lack of COVID-19 tasks on GPUs this week? I just noticed that despite the preference I'm getting other workloads (on F@H).

I get the impression that research groups are mostly moving their testing on from in silico to in vivo. I haven't done F@H for a while, but that's the impression I get from Rosetta. I haven't been seeing any tasks from Rosetta with COVID-19 in their names for some time now, so it's either there is no COVID-19 work, or the current work is relevant in some way but comes from outside vendors and they put names on their WUs that make sense to them and nobody else.

Also, some days-old news from Rosetta@Home and TN-Grid:

Rosetta@Home posted:

Today we report in Science [PDF] the design of small proteins that protect cells from SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. In experiments involving lab-grown human cells, the activity of the lead antiviral candidate produced (LCB1) was found to rival that of the best-known SARS-CoV-2 neutralizing antibodies. LCB1 is currently being evaluated in rodents.



https://www.bakerlab.org/index.php/2020/09/09/covid-minibinders/

TLDR: Rosetta@Home itself wasn't directly used to design the LCB1 antiviral candidate, but it was used to design the relevant scaffolds, and many similar designs that bind to SARS-CoV-2 were engineered using Rosetta@Home.

TN-Grid posted:

Our gene@home project (hosted by the University of Trento, Italy) has been chosen by AMD as a recipient for their COVID-19 HPC fund, see the official announcement https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/hpc-fund

We are really grateful to receive this donation, it will give us access to high performance computing nodes, boosting our research. More info and comments here: https://gene.disi.unitn.it/test/forum_thread.php?id=291

Basically, AMD's letting TN-Grid borrow a couple computers for a whole year, each with an AMD Epyc "Rome" and 8 AMD Radeon Instinct MI50 Accelerators.

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I haven't done one of these in a while, but here's where the goons are in numbers.

In Asteroids@Home, we are currently #46 in Recent average credit and we've gone up to #151 in Total credit. COVID-19 stuff might be winding down, so there might be more interest in other projects like Asteroids again.

In Folding@home, we've gone down to #68 in rankings.

In Rosetta@Home, goons have jumped up to #58 in Recent average credit, and we have risen to #174 in Total credit.

In TN-Grid, they reported last week that COVID-19 related gene work here is still strong and being expanded on. Our Recent average credit ranking is now #19, and our Total credit ranking has risen to #54.

Ibercivis

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Tuxide
Mar 7, 2010


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SETI@home is probably not coming back for a very long time because of what's been going on over in the Arecibo telescope in Puerto Rico, which it depends on.

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I haven't done one of these in a couple months, but here's where the goons stand. We've been going down in activity a lot, but that's something all groups are experiencing in general and not just a goon thing, since those who are here for COVID-19 probably know already that the focus is on in vivo testing through the vaccine candidate trials. Also, we could probably use a new team motivator, like maybe the goons could do something like work on HIV next, or work towards out-computing rivals like we were doing with Asteroids before.

Asteroids@Home is having database issues and isn't reporting team rankings currently.

In Folding@home, we are still #68 in rankings. Its compute power is now about 240 petaFLOPS, a shadow of the 2.62 exaFLOPS it was back towards the end of April.

In Rosetta@Home, goons have dropped to #86 in Recent average credit, and we have risen to #164 in Total credit.

In TN-Grid, which goons are still doing strong in, our Recent average credit ranking is now #36, and our Total credit ranking has risen to #52.

Ibercivis

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