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 Observer Thread Situation quote:The Japanese government has been the most belligerent since World War II, and we believe the threatened invasion of the Kuril Islands to be genuine and not mere puffery. That the buildup in Hokkaido involves improvised civilian vessels alongside purpose-built landing craft of the JMSDF is what we believe to be the smoking gun. Enemy Forces quote:The Japanese are limited in the number of units they can deploy against us. There are both geographic and political reasons for this. The Sea of Japan and the geographic bottlenecks are a double-edged sword. Any unit attempting to traverse the narrow bottlenecks will face a barrage of sea denial weapons. Their air power does not have this problem, but politics is keeping a large portion of it back. Friendly Forces Surface Assets As all of our long-range landing ships are trapped in the Sea of Japan, we have resorted to commandeering civilian ferries. The convoy itself consists of ten such ferries. To defend it, we have a variety of assets. While many of our forces remain held back as the deterrent "fleet in being", a large force, including those routed from around the world, remains.  1 - FFG Sovershennyy  4 - MPK Grisha One squadron of Grisha corvettes, tasked with close protection of the convoy.  10 - Commercial Ferry Submarine Assets  -Oscar II SSGN Tver  -Akula SSNs Vepr, Kashalot, Bratsk  -Yasen SSN Severodvinsk.  -Kilo SSs Mogocha, Nurlat Air Assets  6983 Aviation Detachment, Dolinsk-Sokol (Su-27SM)(10 Aircraft)  -5th Aviation Group, Burevestnik/Iturup (MiG-29)(10 Aircraft)  279th OKIAP, Burevestnik/Iturup (Su-33)(4 Aircraft)  AEW Detachment, Yelizovo (A-50)(2 Aircraft)  8th Aviation Group, Yelizovo (MiG-31)(20 Aircraft)  4th Aviation Group, Yelizovo (Il-78)(8 Aircraft)  310 OPLAP, Yelizovo (Tu-142)(6 Aircraft) Satellite Assets -In addition to our own satellites, the Chinese are providing us with continuous intel from theirs. Facilities Dolinsk-Sokol AB (SA-15E, SA-20A, Big Bird C Radar) Iturup AB (SA-15E, SA-20A, Big Bird C Radar) Kyril's Styx Outposts - SSC-3 Styx Yelizovo AB Execution Ensure the convoy arrives safely to the marked zone. While all ships are to be protected if possible, the ferries KP-6 (containing the self-propelled guns of the naval infantry) and Lisanski (containing tanks) are especially high priority. Our intelligence staff estimates that a rapid push to the islands should take no more than 28 hours if the convoy moves at full speed (>20 knots) more or less in a straight line. However, that may not be the wisest course of action. Nevertheless, we have only a few days of good weather forecast before it gets rough, so do not dawdle. We have 72 hours from the start of the scenario to reach the target zone. After that point the Japanese will have pressed the issue internationally and we will be unable to accomplish our goal. Please claim your command. Please note there are multiple subs for some of the classes. A single person can command the ferries and a Grisha. You can claim the seat of an individual aircraft but the command will go to the wing commander. If we have more demand than we have wings, we may break the command into multiples. If you prefer a unit name, please propose and folks will vote.  ORDERS SHEET : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iaCZh--wkpwuiu4-lc5slpGjhwq7tUEoo-NJrkGjeuQ/edit?usp=sharing PLANNING MAP : https://drive.google.com/open?id=1X0Tx4dWpJUbs_xsW9X4DAVIOjpRs3Raj&usp=sharing Yooper fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Oct 29, 2018 |
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Okay then, I'm going to grab "8th Aviation Group", the half obsolete/ half cutting edge MiG-31s at Yelizovo. I'll see if I can make something of them.
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Oct 14, 2018 20:24
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I'll claim the Vepr Akula class submarine please.
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Oct 14, 2018 20:52
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I am the FFG SOVERSHENNY please. A poor ship, lacking in purpose and carrying an antiquated armament. It is named "Zelyonyy slonik". Dandywalken fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Oct 14, 2018 |
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Oct 14, 2018 22:03
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I'd like to propose a general naming scheme for surface ships: They should all be called "XYZm from target", where XYZ is a three digit number. Observe the following test: What the Japanese see -  What we see -  The perfect deception.
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I want in on one of those MiG-29s. What stats do the pilots get? Are we all aces or are we randomly assigned or what? eta: Oh, I'm getting all of them? Even better. habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Oct 15, 2018 |
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Oct 15, 2018 03:18
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I just got this forwarded from my babushka on vkontakte: Those Japanese dogs are using the Kurils for nuclear testing!
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Oct 15, 2018 03:40
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If nobody who knows what they're doing objects, I'd like to have Kashalot.
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Happy to drive sad dumpy submarine Bratsk e: hot drat now this is a coat of arms  e: wow the SS-N-16 is weird. e: wow none of our aircraft have much of a standoff A2G capability e: our toolbox for G2G is basically the Onyxs and Shipwrecks unless you want me to drive into torpedo range of something like I'm Günther fuckin Prien e: the most modern Japanese SSKs on CMANO-db have Harpoons and their torpedoes are shorter range than ours. e: Japanese surface combatants are shorter-ranged than ours too. Basically as long as we stay 200km out we can missile them with impunity, but idk how survivable a shipwreck is against those Standard Missiles. Would have to be a coordinated strike probably. If they have air-launched ASM-3s already in this timeline that would be a problem, those are as fast as our missiles. Still only 200km range tho. ASM2s are turbojet-powered, so not too fast. aphid_licker fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Oct 15, 2018 |
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Oct 15, 2018 15:26
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I'll take the Tver. Big and noisy just like me.
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Oct 15, 2018 16:19
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Please get appropriate privs in Discord from Yooper when you can, guys! I'm pretty drat confident we can pull this off with minimal fuss given our assets. We can pull off some really nasty stuff with these subs in particular.
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Oct 15, 2018 18:16
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Let me die gloriously in an Su-27SM
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Oct 15, 2018 23:18
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Dandywalken posted:Please get appropriate privs in Discord from Yooper when you can, guys! I'm pretty drat confident we can pull this off with minimal fuss given our assets. We can pull off some really nasty stuff with these subs in particular. Yeah we're going to give these drat nerds the absolute business. e: i both do and dont want to play with the fancy yasen. we'll see what happens.
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Oct 15, 2018 23:35
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  The areas in yellow are kind of boring stuff and can be handled by the group or theater commanders. The entries in green we should have filled. I'll end up allocating multiple commanders if it comes to that. Theater commander isn't a neccessity but it'd be the dude/dudette who gives orders if someone goes awol.
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Oct 15, 2018 23:53
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I'll take theater commander unless someone else wants it. I should be able to get on discord from work, because my employer doesn't block the web version for some reason despite blocking most gaming related websites (I'm guessing the IT folks are nerds and don't want to cut themselves off).
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habeasdorkus posted:I'll take theater commander unless someone else wants it. I should be able to get on discord from work, because my employer doesn't block the web version for some reason despite blocking most gaming related websites (I'm guessing the IT folks are nerds and don't want to cut themselves off). Koolkev expressed interest in it last night. So I'll let the two of you do whatever Russian Naval officers do to figure it out. (Vodka)
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Overall estimated Japanese starting OOB: Aircraft: 26ish F-15J J-MSIP (very dangerous) http://cmano-db.com/aircraft/345/ 13ish F-4EJ Kai (kinda sad) http://cmano-db.com/aircraft/136/ 2ish E-767 http://cmano-db.com/aircraft/2164/ 3ish KC-767? (Japan has quite limited AAR capability, a total of 4 in real life and maintenance periods are counted in this mission, but they do have some others on order. None seen so far.) http://cmano-db.com/aircraft/1795/ 6ish P-3 Orion. Hachinohe in real life has two full squadrons but they've not really shown any indication that they have that many. http://cmano-db.com/aircraft/351/ 2ish EP-3C Orion ELINT? Might just be P-3s doing ELINT work. http://cmano-db.com/aircraft/119/ 3ish SH-60Ks on the boats http://cmano-db.com/aircraft/2058/ Surface: 3 elderly DDGs, likely Hatakaze, Hatsuyuki and Asagiri types with perhaps one modern Murasame/Takanami type with ESSM. All equipped with 8x subsonic AShMs, either Harpoon or Type 90. ESSM - http://cmano-db.com/ship/647/ or http://cmano-db.com/ship/2488/ General - http://cmano-db.com/ship/1747/ or http://cmano-db.com/ship/2012/ or http://cmano-db.com/ship/5/ (don't think that's up to date) Light - http://cmano-db.com/ship/537/ Subsurface: 4-6ish Soryu or Oyashio class SSKs http://cmano-db.com/submarine/603/ or http://cmano-db.com/submarine/588/ Both pretty dangerous, Soryus are more modern and have an AIP instead of an electric engine. Ground: Fighters based at Chitose, Supports based at Hachinohe. Both bases covered by a Chu-SAM and a Patriot, like our bases. Please, make any comments as to what you think they might have. I'll be updating this post as more information comes in and when we start getting ELINT. Kills 3x Radar Sites 2x Japanese Dignity 1x Oyashio class SSK 1x Soryu class SSK 1x unknown SSK, probably a Soryu due to known loss of a highly experienced commander 2x unknown SSK 1x Hatsuyuki class DDG 1x Abukuma class DE 1x unknown surface combatant with poor AAW capabilities 16x F-15J Eagle 1x SH-60K (probable) 1x P-3C Orion Current estimated Japanese OOB Aircraft: 10 F-15J J-MSIP (very dangerous) http://cmano-db.com/aircraft/345/ 13 F-4EJ Kai (kinda sad) http://cmano-db.com/aircraft/136/ 2 E-767 http://cmano-db.com/aircraft/2164/ 5 P-3 Orion. Hachinohe in real life has two full squadrons but they've not really shown any indication that they have that many. http://cmano-db.com/aircraft/351/ 2 EP-3C Orion ELINT? Might just be P-3s doing ELINT work. http://cmano-db.com/aircraft/119/ Subsurface: 0-2 Soryu or Oyashio class SSKs http://cmano-db.com/submarine/603/ or http://cmano-db.com/submarine/588/ Both pretty dangerous, Soryus are more modern and have an AIP instead of an electric engine. Not more dangerous than Bears. Ground: Fighters based at Chitose, Supports based at Hachinohe. Both bases covered by a Chu-SAM and a Patriot, like our bases. FrangibleCover fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Jan 13, 2019 |
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From the language of the briefing I'd expect more than four SSKs and possibly fewer P-1s than you estimate?quote:-Enemy surface forces are unlikely but still possibly able to contest the gauntlet. While they could try and force the island chain with modern warships, we believe it more likely that they will be held back to screen the landing when it happens. The same holds true of their maritime patrol aircraft. Only one unit of obsolete escorts remains northeast of Hokkaido, and we believe it to be very timid. Say six SSKs and four P-1s? Also I guess it says "at least" one squadron of Phantoms, so possibly another one of those?
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aphid_licker posted:From the language of the briefing I'd expect more than four SSKs and possibly fewer P-1s than you estimate? True enough. 4x SSKs is based on the number of Japanese signups to 'fill' Japan's OOB so it's perhaps a risky estimate, but the briefing does indicate subsurface inferiority and their SSKs are better than our Kilos so they can't have that many. Number of P-1s is patterned from the number of our Bears, maybe they'll have fewer. I'm not too concerned about them if I'm honest, I doubt they'll risk them far enough north to interfere seriously with our submarine operations. They might have more Phantoms, but it raises questions of where the hell they found all of these airworthy Phantoms and we do supposedly have a numerical advantage in the air. It hardly matters, we're going to be going maximum effort to kill all of the Phantoms whether there are 12, 24 or 2048 of them. Once they're dead I don't really care if the Japanese have air supremacy.
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I'll take the Severodvinsk unless it's already claimed, or the Kilo if it is.
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Triggerhappypilot posted:I'll take the Severodvinsk unless it's already claimed, or the Kilo if it is. It's not claimed, I think everyone is terrified of screwing up with our only really really good unit and then 
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How proactive should we be? My MiG-29s are gonna get wrecked by any dedicated air superiority fighter sporting decent BVR missiles, since the Alamos they carry top out at about 50 miles range while the F15J's carry the AAM-4 with more than double the range. But the MiGs can also carry anti-radar/anti-shipping Kryptons, which have a range of 70 miles... meaning they can be fired 60-70 miles from the airbase at the Japanese radar installations nearest them. I'm thinking sending up two for each radar and having them burn ASAP into weapons range would be the smart play, reserving four more for anti-ship duties, and using the final two for whatever type of CAP mission they can manage. I'm also cool with not being theater commander if anyone else wants it. I'm only offering as an emergency backup. eta: I assume the Flankers based out of the same airbase will probably be doing the lions share of CAP in that area since they have Alamo C's with ~80 miles of range. habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Oct 16, 2018 |
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habeasdorkus posted:How proactive should we be? My MiG-29s are gonna get wrecked by any dedicated air superiority fighter sporting decent BVR missiles, since the Alamos they carry top out at about 50 miles range while the F15J's carry the AAM-4 with more than double the range. But the MiGs can also carry anti-radar/anti-shipping Kryptons, which have a range of 70 miles... meaning they can be fired 60-70 miles from the airbase at the Japanese radar installations nearest them. I need to do some working out but at the moment we know two things: 1. We have no air to surface weapons at any of our bases, we're in pure fighter mode. 2. If you engage the F-15Js on their terms you die and you don't get to shoot. That's not just your MiGs, that's the Su-27s, Su-33s and MiG-31s too. They've basically got Meteors and we know what Meteors do to SARH fighters and ARH fighters with non-Meteor ranges. Currently I'm trying to figure out what not on their terms looks like but I think it's probably that you should sit on the ground for thirty hours and then wait for them to launch their F-4 strike and get it in between Sakhalin and Itarup so that we can attack it from three sides. You'll die, I'll die, Dylguy will die, whichever poor sod ends up with the Su-33s will die and then the botemen will win the scenario.
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Now that's a properly Russian way of motivating the troops
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Yikes. I still want to take out the radars, if at all possible. Send out all the MiGs first thing towards all three locations, fly at high speed down at wavetop level to try and reduce getting seen for as long as possible, and then use a2a missiles and a strafing run. It probably won't work great, and the Japanese might be able to repair the radars before the end of the conflict due to the small payload on the missiles, but taking them out would give us a significant strategic advantage even if they can keep one of their AWACs aloft at all times.
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Weather Report We'll give it another day or two and then I'll run 5 minutes of game time to allow systems to pick up contacts etc. After that we'll do the first round of orders.
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Eyes in the sky: Our satellite fleet According to the scenario description, our access to satellite intelligence from both our own fleet and the Chinese satellite constellations is one of our big gamechangers, so let's take a look. We have:  Which is a lot of metal. Let's break them down. First of all, we have three kinds of satellite detection available to us. Optical is fairly obvious, it's the 'traditional' type spy satellite with a whacking great camera which is not much use because it's currently slightly cloudy in the AO. SAR is Synthetic Aperture Radar, good for detecting surface ships through cloud but it needs to get quite close to them in space terms. ELINT is Electronic Intelligence, they detect, classify and partially localise radars which will allow us to detect stuff like the enemy Patriot battery and count how many Eagles they have up without having to go anywhere near the damned things with a Tu-142. Most stuff is marked with what it does. Resurs, Lotos and Tselina are ELINT sats. Persona is optical and Tundra is infra-red and apparently for ballistic missile launch detection. Let's hope not. The Yaogan 17, 20 and 25 series sats are fun because they fly in formation with each other, meaning that they can relatively easily localise radars by taking cross cuts on them.
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I've take command of our SU-33s, but mostly I'm a simulation/tactics guy so if you want to know if something will work in theory I can probably run it. For example, TriggerHappyPilot your Severodvinsk's Onyx missiles can probably wreck all the radars on Hokkaido other than their AEW if you get close enough to launch (difficult) and their F-15Js are not up (doubly difficult). Or such a salvo can get all the F-15Js to fly home to rearm if their CAP is up, which could enable an AAW mission to kill their tankers and AEW. Same if we can find those ships with sattelites, just volley them from long range with Granits from the Oscar. The biggest challenge is going to be preserving our air assets and then committing them in the right way to make a difference.
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TOP SECRET DOCS REMOVED.
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I'm happy with habeasdorkus being theater command as all it really is that if someone is awol you fill in for orders so as long as some one does it then it doesn't matter who. As for preserving air assets as long as our planes are safe on the ground due to friendly AA then I say wait until the Japanese planes are somewhere located where we can throw our planes at them from multiple directions. Yes they cna outfight our squadrons but if they end up having multiple squadrons coming from different directions they may have trouble engaging them all before we get something into missile range.
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im going to die in an akula do we have shkvals
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Cling-Wrap Condom posted:do we have shkvals 
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EDIT: Feel free to add to this and I'll edit it in. Let's talk about making the most out of our assets, since many of us are unfamiliar with the specifics of each unit. Of course we may have an overall strategy that differs, but this will give you an idea how to make use of each. From the top: DandyWalken, you have the convoy. You have two things to worry about : submarines, and F-4EJs, both of which can sink all your ships from 75nm. Opposing this you have a frigate and four corvettes, none of which are particularly specialized or modern. The best weapon is the Urans on the frigate, with an 80nm range, but they only target surface ships. If the enemy has Type 90 AShMs on their destroyers you're outranged as they're 100nm, but you're about even with Harpoons at 75nm. Torpedoes and other missiles and guns all have woefully short ranges, your best tool against submarines is the ASW helicopter carried on the Sovershennyy. Other than that the squadron together has some small anti-missile capability, but not much. I do like the OECM on the frigate and the 160nm Half Plate radar on the corvettes, if our ground radars go down it may be necessary to have some of them illuminate. Koolkevz, Aphid, and Cling-Wrap-condom, your squadron of Akulas has a bunch of long-range torpedoes, like the 54nm Vodopei (Veter) torpedoes, which means you're in a hunter-killer role. You have a long-range towed passive array which is nice, as does the Oscar and the Yasen (but not the Kilos). Stago Lego, the Tver's primary capability is its 24 Granit missiles with a best-in-theatre range of 300nm. They can only target ships, but they are by far our best weapon against ships. We believe that one of our satellite sweeps may catch the Japanese surface assets location closely enough to launch against them. Getting in position (and 300nm is a lot of leeway) to do this at the right time may be crucial. After that, you're reduced to basically a bigger Akula with 54nm range on your Vodopeis so good luck. TriggerHappyPilot, you have the lynchpin of our anti-ground assets with the Yasen-class Severodvinsk. The 32 Onyx missiles can target surface vessels, land structures, and runways (but not vehicles) at a range of 240nm. This can knock down radars, hangars, runway access, and so on. Having run some tests, potential Patriot systems aren't enough to reliably shoot down a full volley, but the F-15Js will do just fine. Contact the testing team in Discord for the full rundown on potential, which seems high, and is also something I don't want any spies to know about. Once your cells of Onyx are fired you are basically a fat Akula same as the Oscar II. As-of-yet-unnamed Kilo commander, you have possibly the hardest job, evading their anti-submarine patrols in order to hunt down a much more modern set of hunter-killer submarines. By far the hardest part of this job is getting within the 4nm necessary to fire on a submarine or surface vessel. It may well be your job is finding the enemy subs and letting the Akulas splat them. Keep in mind where the enemy is likely to hang out, because while normally "close" in this game means like 20nm, creeping along at submarine speeds and closing to 4nm means you'll have to predict where they go. You also have MDM-6 Bottom Mines and I have no idea how these work, but they may be worth using if you can beat the enemy to the target area. Weirdly all our subs have mast-mounted MANPAD-equivalent systems so we can surface and shoot down a helo in an emergency, but then you get missiled so ymmv. Dylguy90, your SU-27SM Flanker Bs are the best A2A missile carriers we have close to the theatre, but let's not pretend that matters. The R-77-1 is a good Active Radar Homing weapon with a decent 60nm range, but you are thoroughly outclassed by the F-15Js and their Type 99 missile at 75nm. There is not a way to come out even remotely favorably or even moderately unfavorably in a trade with this weapon, we cannot attrition it, we just die. I am dead serious. Your position at Dolinsk-Sokol is key and your squadron is the only thing keeping the JSDF honest in the air, so spend it wisely. HabeasDorkus, your ex-Algerian MIG-29SMT Fulcrum Cs were nerfed down to SARH missiles in a recent patch. I honestly don't know what to tell you, the R-27R is not a good weapon unless you are unopposed, and the R-73 needs to be in knife fight range. I wouldn't take them into a fight with Bisons, nevermind modern F-15Js. If we get un-nerfed back to the R-77-1, then everything I told Dylguy90 applies to you, if we're stuck with what you have you're probably going up in a kitchen sink desperation attack. I know you have plans, so good luck. TheDemon, the SU-33 Flanker Ds are much the same as HabeasDorkus except you also have the 70nm SARH R-27RE, which is crap if you don't have good detection. There's a small possibility of these being used to assassinate large planes like the AEW, but they most certainly can't fight Type 99s. FrangibleCover, you seem to have all the assets at Yelizovo, including 20 MIG-31BM Foxhounds. Their 90nm SARH R-33S is the longest ranged A2A missile in the theatre, but is still crap against the F-15J. We need to run tests to see if they can't be fired at max ranges given closer aircraft spotting for you. Also, the Kurils is too big a theatre for those Foxhounds to be a good CAP or even a good intercept. Are we allowed to transfer bases? This also applies to your A-50 AEW aircraft, which won't be in range to start, and pretty much everything else you have. If we can establish air superiority your TU-142 anti-submarine aircraft come into play in a big way, but we're going to need a lot of luck and trickery to get to that stage. 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I'm more than happy to commit my ageing fighters to a suicidal air rush but if we're gonna die I'd rather die doing a surface level strafing run on a ship tbh E: Sorry, I was a butt and didn't take the time to read your post. Thanks for the info! Happy to join in on the kitchen sink when and if it happens. S w a y z e fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Oct 17, 2018 |
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Excellent information TheDemon but a quick heads up I only control one Akula class submarine, the other two are controlled by Aphid and Cling-Wrap-condom.
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dylguy90 posted:I'm more than happy to commit my ageing fighters to a suicidal air rush but if we're gonna die I'd rather die doing a surface level strafing run on a ship tbh Get in contact with HabeasDorkus, we have just the right mission for one of your pilots.
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koolkevz666 posted:Excellent information TheDemon but a quick heads up I only control one Akula class submarine, the other two are controlled by Aphid and Cling-Wrap-condom. i love watching you all type out my name in this serious thread
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Also, fun fact, we actually have two airfields on Iturup AND another one on Kunashir. The one Yooper listed, Burevestnik, is actually an old airbase that is now in reserve status as fog too often impaired operations and also the locals wanted to be able to catch flights to the island. So in 2014 the Russians built a new airport much closer to the main town on the island, which has private and military flights. You actually have to zoom out a bit to see the airfield on the google map at the link, because the higher detail images are actually from before they built the airport. We should be able to use both of the runways on the island, which increases our rate of sortieing by 50% compared to just using Burevestnik AB. I don't think we can use old Vetrovye Airbase, which is also on Iturup, based on the google maps image I don't think anything could take off from that old runway, and all the support buildings are gone. Finally, on Kunashir, we have Mendeleyvo Airport which is public, but can almost certainly be pressed into use if we wanted to. It's, like, RIGHT next to Hokkaido, though, so we'd be in easy range of a2g attacks if we ever do use it.
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Habeas and I were talking and we aren't sure what we do against opposing ships if they're used aggressively. We don't have any AShMs. A2A loadouts for aircraft only. The Oscar II has 24 Granits. Other than that we're counting on our subs to get into torpedo range. Strafe is an answer but a bad answer because most Japanese ships strafe back. If they sprint up to our two airfields and start bombarding we have to volley off the Granits and pray. I don't see any other plans, our subs can't beat them there. Let's hope the JMSDF doesn't think of this.
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Oi I'm just posting this so nobody thinks I'm AWOL, I just got up for work but I tried to catch up on the discord and I'll keep going once I get back.
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