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Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

F-15j Squadron #1

ROE update: Against mig-31 targets fire 2 missiles per salvo instead of one per salvo.

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Val Helmethead
Apr 24, 2009

Pittsburgh is stored in the balls.

Davin Valkri posted:

Everyone, if you don't have any special changes to make to your orders--because the last turn's ones are still valid, or still being carried out, or whatever--could you post to that effect here?

F-4's standing by.

OscarDiggs
Jun 1, 2011

Those sure are words on pages which are given in a sequential order!
Both subs need to start making their move to the cordon site. Sub 1 as is basically following Bac. Sub 2 in a ASW patrol pattern (Weapons tight, or hot or whatever they need to be), basically moving at 5 kts in a North-easterly sort of way, please.

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

Never felt at home in reality
Always hiding behind avatars


F-15J Squadron #2

If a flight hits winchester AAM-5 or low fuel then RTB and replace both flights with Single 2 ship patrol that corresponds with the patrol show in picture

Flight 2: 2x F-15J's Callsign Galm
AA Patrol - 2 Aircraft - 20,000ft, Cruise speed of 500 mph.
Military Power (just under afterburners) to reach patrol area after take off
Patrol area: Close approximation of area shown in image
Prosecution Area: Closest approximation as shown in image
Heavy AA loudout
Start patrol ASAP
Emcom: radars on
ROE: 2 missiles per hostile
YOU ARE AUTHORIZED TO FIRE UPON CONTACTS WITHIN WEAPONS RANGE



Bacarruda
Mar 30, 2011

Mutiny!?! More like "reinterpreted orders"
Soryu subs continue mission.

The boat that spotted the whale last turn should turn SE and proceed just above the layer at 5 knots to check out the SE goblin.

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


Japan Turn 3



10:35:10



Still reeling from the lightning strike on the radars the Japanese forces patrol over Hokkaido. The E767 is slated to move north and patrol a narrow zone over the center of the island. Deep in the seas the submarines pursue a single goblin and slowly move into position.

:catdrugs: For future subsurface orders, please define "rules of the hunt" if a sub-surface contact is detected nearby. If in a patrol zone the sub will do it on its own, but if transiting, do you hunt? :catdrugs:

Not many orders change. Most aircraft on standby. The Sea Hawk will be deployed shortly to screen directly in front of the DD's.



Bac-Center picks up a goblin on his towed sonar array almost directly in front.



Seahawk departs for the patrol area.



Goblin resolves to a biologic.



As the P-3C moves up we get a fix on a SAM site, an SA-15E Gauntlet with an active radar.



The P-3's begin to drop a line of sonobuoys.



At 1110 we'll call it a round. The P-3's are dropping buoys, the Eagles are patrolling, and the sentinel is sentineling.



All subs are on plotted course.


:catdrugs: Orders by Saturday! :catdrugs:

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

Maybe you're weighing the moral pros and cons but let me assure you that OH MY GOD
SHOOT ME IN THE GODDAMNED FACE
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!


SA-15E Tors? Sure, they're dangerous in their own way, but they only have a range of 10 miles! Assume a couple in the vicinity of the airbases proper, I guess? They might have scattered them all over the place, but we'd be seeing a lot more of them by now if they were going for SAM coverage by saturation. And they're only effective below 20k feet! They've gotta have some other kind of long range battery going on...

...There's a possibility (a POSSIBILITY) that the use of the 64N6 Big Bird C radar rather than later models, like 64N6E or 64N6E2, points to the use of a mid-range type of S-300, such as this, with a range of around 90 miles, but I'm not prepared to say that hard yet. I'd like to ask any air force units to consider pushing up just a bit to see if we can't get any other contacts.

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

Maybe you're weighing the moral pros and cons but let me assure you that OH MY GOD
SHOOT ME IN THE GODDAMNED FACE
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!
Sorry to double post, but I'll just post some general orders here:

Air Units (Jimmy4400Nav, Stairmaster, Tythas, Taintrunner, Valhelmethead) -- I'd like to confirm what precisely the heavy SAM is, but the only way to do that might be to have someone take a shot at one of our aircraft, and then look at the data from the shot. I can't order anybody to put their assets on the line, but if the occasion arises, I'd like to move up a bit aggressively.

Naval Units (Popete) -- Your request to approach Burevestnik from the south is approved. Continue.

Submarines (Baccaruda, Kyoon Griffey Jr., Oscar Diggs) -- Again, if you feel it necessary, "sprint and drift" is authorized. I'd like to request that you organize among yourselves to put some of the submarines above the layer as well as below the layer during the patrol phase.

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


Looking at the next round to go on Sunday. Plan accordingly.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer
My orders are the same for now. I'll alter the path as needed when I get closer to Iturup. Continue dipping with the Sea Hawk ahead of the fleet.

ScottyJSno
Aug 16, 2010

日本が大好きです!
Sorry to jump in, but is there a combined thread that has more back story and general discussions? Looked around and didn't see one.

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


ScottyJSno posted:

Sorry to jump in, but is there a combined thread that has more back story and general discussions? Looked around and didn't see one.

Yup! https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3871512&pagenumber=1

Feel free to ask there.

ScottyJSno
Aug 16, 2010

日本が大好きです!
Let`s take a look at the real life locations of today`s attacks.


1. The 28th Aircraft Control and Warning Squadron in Abashiri
航空自衛隊 第28警戒隊
This Radar site is located on a mountain with only forest and the base support buildings surrounding it.



2. The 18th Aircraft Control and Warning Squadron in Wakkani
航空自衛隊第18警戒隊
A costal site. Many homes would be exposed to any rounds that may have missed their target.



3. The 26th Aircraft Control and Warning Squadron in Nemuro
航空自衛隊第26警戒隊
While the main radar is farther away from any homes there is still risk to civilians.


Only the radar in Abashiri is located in a remote location. The chance of collateral damage at the other two sites is higher as there are private home and business surrounding the base.

The Japanese Government could easily use this provocative action as cover/justification for any counter attacks they have planned. Any base personal or civilians that may have been killed could help drum up international support.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer
A direct attack on Japanese soil unprovoked demands immediate action and commendation from Japan and her allies. We ask the U.S. to provide support through either direct action or indirectly in supporting our effort to defend Japan with military supplies to allow us to have full operations of our aircraft.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
I can take below the layer in the patrol area

Jimmy4400nav
Apr 1, 2011

Ambassador to Moonlandia

Davin Valkri posted:

Sorry to double post, but I'll just post some general orders here:

Air Units (Jimmy4400Nav, Stairmaster, Tythas, Taintrunner, Valhelmethead) -- I'd like to confirm what precisely the heavy SAM is, but the only way to do that might be to have someone take a shot at one of our aircraft, and then look at the data from the shot. I can't order anybody to put their assets on the line, but if the occasion arises, I'd like to move up a bit aggressively.

I could try and get closer to get some EO/IR on the island, the TOR won't be to reach my plane if I operate on the outer edges of the EO/IR range (that is 30nm compared to the TORs 10-15nm). My worry would be if they have another longer ranged SAM system collocated with the TOR. 15 nautical miles is a bit of a tighter margin than I would like but I understand this kind of intel could really make or break operations.

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

Maybe you're weighing the moral pros and cons but let me assure you that OH MY GOD
SHOOT ME IN THE GODDAMNED FACE
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!

Jimmy4400nav posted:

I could try and get closer to get some EO/IR on the island, the TOR won't be to reach my plane if I operate on the outer edges of the EO/IR range (that is 30nm compared to the TORs 10-15nm). My worry would be if they have another longer ranged SAM system collocated with the TOR. 15 nautical miles is a bit of a tighter margin than I would like but I understand this kind of intel could really make or break operations.

As mentioned in Discord, getting closer is fine, getting within 30nm is a hard no. There's no way the TOR is the "heavy SAMs" described in the briefing (not enough range and height), and the presence of Big Bird definitely suggests the presence of bigger SAMs. Draw a radius of 100 miles from each of the enemy airbases--you aren't authorized to get any closer than that, and you must be ready to run behind Eagle cover at any time.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer
Do we care what kind of SAM capabilities they have up there? Seems like a somewhat unnecassary risk to go poking a bee hive when we aren't capable of attacking their airbase and we likely won't ever go that far north with our aircraft.

I know it's possible they have some crazy S-300 system that could hit us but if that is the case we are screwed anyways.

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

Maybe you're weighing the moral pros and cons but let me assure you that OH MY GOD
SHOOT ME IN THE GODDAMNED FACE
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!

Popete posted:

Do we care what kind of SAM capabilities they have up there? Seems like a somewhat unnecassary risk to go poking a bee hive when we aren't capable of attacking their airbase and we likely won't ever go that far north with our aircraft.

I know it's possible they have some crazy S-300 system that could hit us but if that is the case we are screwed anyways.

It's mostly for operational level planning. The difference between a 75 mile and a 175 mile SAM system is the difference between "our P-3s have a good amount of space to provided escorted support to our subs directly" and "our P-3s will have to take a long way around Iturup to get to the subs, and take an equally long way going back, slashing down patrol time and possibly opening them up to more attacks".

Jimmy4400nav
Apr 1, 2011

Ambassador to Moonlandia
P-3's

Continue operations, drop altitude down to 10,000 feet for the rest of these buoy drops.

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

Never felt at home in reality
Always hiding behind avatars


F-15J squadron #2 will use the same orders as last turn

Val Helmethead
Apr 24, 2009

Pittsburgh is stored in the balls.

F-4's Standing by

OscarDiggs
Jun 1, 2011

Those sure are words on pages which are given in a sequential order!
Both subs doing more of the same. For Oscar Diggs 2 as it ASW Patrols forward the rules of the hunt are to hunt down targets.

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


Japan Turn 4





The hunt continues. Our intrepid adventurers seek deeper into the depths and further into the Russian wilds. To the North is known SAM positions at Dolinsk while somewhere advances a convoy.



ASW buoy screen is going up. Per orders the aircraft drop to 10,000 ft.



:frogsiren:

8 bogeys.



Units are 200nm from Jimmy's ASW birds. Ready planes are prepping, if they breach much closer we'll launch a sortie in response.



:frogsiren:

And holy poo poo, it's a sub!

Bac sets course at 4 knots. Oscar is already on course to pass near it. Kyoon is beyond it, and if I'm interpreting his orders correctly, will continue on course.



And the bogeys are holding in a small pattern to the north. 350 kts, 40,000 ft. Sakura, Ronin, and Galm patrol are all in the air.

Sakura Flight : 1:42 to bingo
Ronin Flight : 5:15 to bingo
Galm Flight : 4:46 to bingo



Contact lost a minute ago. All we know is it is a PLA-971 Akula I Improved.



It's back. Position location is scattered. This time Oscar Diggs picks it up using his towed array.



35 kts. :staredog:

(I decided to not divert Kyoon at this point as at his current pace he could not intercept the Akula.)



New aerial contacts, 420 kts, 36,000 ft. Solo. Heading in towards the 8 contacts.



The acoustic report on our Akula is now strong enough to identify the commander. "Aphid".



Kyoon picks up an unknown goblin just off his path.



New bogey, 395 knots, 36,000 ft, headed towards Iturup.



Bac intercepts another goblin on his path to intercept Aphid.



Kyoon resolves his contact to be biologics.



Solo aircraft among the 8 to the north resolves to be an A-50 Mainstay.



And that's our 30 minutes! I'll zoom in on areas of interest here.



8 unknown contacts with the A-50 in the center.



Single bogey, last seen a few minutes ago, north of Iturup.



Aphid and an unknown goblin. Oscar could potentially investigate with Bac, but for now the course puts Bac and Aphid on a crash course.

:catdrugs: Orders due by Tuesday! :catdrugs:

I'll clear the sheet after those orders and make sure I'm still doing what you want.

Tythas
Oct 3, 2013

Never felt at home in reality
Always hiding behind avatars


F-15 squadron #2
New Orders

Ronin Flight
Airstrike package on Bogey #511
cruise speed: is 520
Altitude: 15,000 ft for Cruise, 5000ft for the attack run
Emcom: Radar off until afterburner
RTB: Same flight path as ingress
ROE: 1 missile per aircraft in Ronin flight
Self Defense Authorized

Sakura Flight
Movement Orders Towards the mainstay, Retreat when bogeys heads towards the flight along routes shown in picure
Time: Execute orders when Ronin flight heads northest
Cruise Speed: is 520
Altitude: 20,000 ft
Emcom: Radar On,
Jammers: (if any) on
ROE: 1 missile per aircraft in Sakura flight
Self Defense Authorized

Galm Flight
Maintain patrols over Hokkaido

Tythas fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Oct 30, 2018

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

Maybe you're weighing the moral pros and cons but let me assure you that OH MY GOD
SHOOT ME IN THE GODDAMNED FACE
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!
As expected, they're aggressively sweeping the gently caress out of their expected convoy approach. Don't panic--it's what we expected them to do.

Air Units (Jimmy4400Nav, Stairmaster, Tythas, Taintrunner, Valhelmethead) -- Scratch the SAM recon, we have bigger problems right now.


That is a Mainstay. The 8 aircraft defending it came from the same direction, and we saw no launches from Burevestnik or Sakhalin, so they're almost certainly MiG-31s. (But why did they not use Flankers or Fulcrums?) Anyway, this sucker is way too well defended for us to go at him. Only upside is that they've been on station for a good 20 minutes and we haven't seen missiles inbound, so they may not have access to AA-13s.


THIS rear end in a top hat appears to be diving. As Tythas proposed in Discord, it's probably a Bear, a ubiquitous Tu-95 derived ASW aircraft doing between-island sweeps. Probably something like this--and I know it says Tu-142, that's what the ASW ones are called. As you can see it's threatening one of Bac's subs, and I'd like it to stop, please. Tythas is already on that. Work with Stairmaster on this--we might be able to feint an attack on the Mainstay to get a cleaner shot at the Bear.

Naval Units (Popete) -- With that Mainstay in the air, you've probably already been spotted--it's got a decent enough surface search radar. You still have a couple of turns before you go fully round Hokkaido, but if we see aircraft heading your way, we may have to scrub the naval bombardment and go full defensive.

Submarines (Baccaruda, Kyoon Griffey Jr., Oscar Diggs) --


WHY IS THIS rear end in a top hat DOING 35 KNOTS IN UNCHARTED WATERS?! Is he bait?! Would you bait with an Akula?! Bac, Oscar, box this rear end in a top hat in and bring him down. If he's got friends nearby, bring them down too. Once you confirm all-clear, dive deep and get out of the area before one of the Bear's friends decides he wants to come and play.


Also, Bac, I think that's one of your subs, transiting to its patrol zone in the east. Can you move its path so it won't be run down by the Bear?

Davin Valkri fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Oct 29, 2018

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Sick I did something useful this turn

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer
Surface fleet orders

Keep on truckin.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
hey davin what do you want me to do

i am pretty sure that anyone blastin around at 35 kts is wearing a sign that says "HELLO I AM A SUB THAT IS HERE" and is therefore some kind of bait

do i know what to do about it? no

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

Maybe you're weighing the moral pros and cons but let me assure you that OH MY GOD
SHOOT ME IN THE GODDAMNED FACE
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

hey davin what do you want me to do

i am pretty sure that anyone blastin around at 35 kts is wearing a sign that says "HELLO I AM A SUB THAT IS HERE" and is therefore some kind of bait

do i know what to do about it? no

You can't catch up to him (since SSNs will always be faster than SSKs), but you can keep a northern "watch" going to see if any of his friends will come knocking, while Oscar and Bac close to kill.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Davin Valkri posted:

You can't catch up to him (since SSNs will always be faster than SSKs), but you can keep a northern "watch" going to see if any of his friends will come knocking, while Oscar and Bac close to kill.

got it

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
orders for my sub - stay very quiet and continue on current course. if other goblins besides known ones are found, hunt them.

goal is to stay north of the site of engagement and hopefully get behind whatever the Russians have

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

Maybe you're weighing the moral pros and cons but let me assure you that OH MY GOD
SHOOT ME IN THE GODDAMNED FACE
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!
Yooper, we might need an extension for this.

Jimmy4400nav
Apr 1, 2011

Ambassador to Moonlandia
P-3s

Keep doing what your doing. Once the buoys are laid, proceed to the orbit points as laid out in the established orders.

Bacarruda
Mar 30, 2011

Mutiny!?! More like "reinterpreted orders"
Soryu Wolfpack


Proceed towards this target at 5 knots. Alternate being above, in, and below the layer to maximize our search.


Dive to max depth and transit due east at 5 knots.

All other subs continue mission. Prosecute any contacts you find.

Bacarruda fucked around with this message at 06:52 on Oct 30, 2018

Val Helmethead
Apr 24, 2009

Pittsburgh is stored in the balls.

F-4's (still) standing by...

OscarDiggs
Jun 1, 2011

Those sure are words on pages which are given in a sequential order!
Sub 1 is doing the same as before, slow and steady. Sub 2 is going to back up one of Bacs subs in going after that Akula. 5kts, stay below layer as Bac is going to cover above layer every so often. I want to intercept from the front ish while Bac get's in on the side. Should we close to around 7km distance fire a torp and get out of dodge. However, Bac's sub takes main priority, I'm just back up.

OscarDiggs fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Oct 30, 2018

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

Maybe you're weighing the moral pros and cons but let me assure you that OH MY GOD
SHOOT ME IN THE GODDAMNED FACE
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!

Val Helmethead posted:

F-4's (still) standing by...

Yeah, sorry about that. Maybe splitting off the F-4s into their own command wasn't a good idea. If you'd like, you can help Stairmaster and Tythas and act as another eye looking over their plans.

That goes for everyone by the way--some of these commands are tiny/less "active" than others, so feel free to check each other's work!

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


Davin Valkri posted:

Yooper, we might need an extension for this.

No problem, let me know by this evening.

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Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


Japan Turn 5





To the north 8 of the bogeys sortie around a single A-50. To the east of that is an Akula going way too fast. Beyond some radar, all is still.



Bac and Oscar head to intercept the wicked fast Akula.



Kyoon gets a fresh goblin in his path. Per his orders he now goes to hunt.



10 Kts. It's a sub, or a really buff whale. Currently 7.86 nm. We're marking this one hostile.



To the south Ronin Flight drops down to 15,000 and begins a southeasterly course. Once the aircraft heads north Sakura Flight will go in for a feint.



The Goblin resolves to be an SSN. The goblin north of Bac turned out to be another biologic.



Oscar Diggs picks up another goblin to his north. I'm going to keep him on track to prosecute the knowen hostile.

Both P-3's are complete with the buoys and head to the holding positions.



The A-50 is showing, while the other contacts are aging. Note that Taintrunners path circles him in a narrow area so these could have dropped off the edge of his radar.



Sweet loving Jesus. The unknown goblin north of Oscar Diggs is going 19 loving knots. Hostile! He paths for an immediate intercept!



Fish in the water!



Two fish in the water! Type-89 torpedos, travelling at 55 kts, wire guided.



The contact has gone undetected for 56 seconds. The torpedos are both seeking in on the last known position. Oscar had a really good targetting solution so the torpedos should be fairly well on path.



There he is! 19 knots, 200 ft depth. The Type 89's have 1.31 nm to go and a great targetting solution.



Kyoon picks up another goblin to his north. The SSN is ~13nm out.



The goblin goes shallow! 899 meters to target!



It's dropping speed, and staying at -66 ft. The torpedos are almost there!



And that's a kill! First Sub Blood goes to Oscar Diggs. The shockwaves of a sub breaking apart echo through the sea. Oscars crew cheers (quietly) and resumes the intercept for the Akula.



Ronin Flight starts heading north, 131 nm to attack run point. The bogey over that strait has since disappeared but Taintrunner is now coming back north on his patrol run.



Kyoons SSN is ~11nm out. Max range on his Type 89's are 8nm.



A moment later the acoustic signature comes through, it's a PLA-885 Severodvinsk.



Ronin Flight picks up a pair of surface radars.



Ronin Flight begins the northward jaunt. At the next waypoint the radars go on, the afterburner cranks up, and the missiles fly. (Maybe?)



Two bogeys take off from Iturup! A moment later they resolve to be MIG-29SMT's.



Missiles away! About the same moment Ronin #2 reaches Bingo fuel and the flight RTB's.



Taintrunner picks up 7 bogeys due north of the A-50.



One MIG-29 down!

And that's time! Here's the areas of interest.



The Yasen north of Kyoon is at -830 ft and doing 10 kts. An unknown contact hasn't been sighted for almost 20 minutes.



Aphid is going 35 kts at -1476 ft. Both Oscar and Bac are on course to intercept.



Ronin Flight is headed back to base. A single MIG-29 is inbound.



A bunch of bogeys are headed back towards the A-50.





Back to you! Orders due by Friday.

Yooper fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Oct 31, 2018

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