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Declan MacManus posted:crossposting but louisville is bleeding players right now They are convinced that Brohm will be announced as HC by tomorrow.....I poo poo you not.
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Grittybeard posted:I saw Stewart Mandel opining that KU should go triple option. His reasons were something to do with never catching up in recruiting and that everyone already runs an up tempo spread in the Big 12, but whatever his reasons are I'm sold on the idea since I want more flexbone in the world. I think it's probably something for schools in that position to at least consider. There is value to be had in doing something different and trying to recruit from a different pool of players than the rest of the conference is fighting for.
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Nov 9, 2018 17:07
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I mean I'm on board with the notion that a team unable to compete on talent would do well to resort to gimmicks, or at least try to do something different so they can bring something that their opponents haven't been preparing for at every practice for years.
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Nov 9, 2018 17:09
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Triple option at KU isn't a bad idea. Go get some big Midwestern and Texas kids and run people over. KU will never beat the rest of the Big 12 playing their game.
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Nov 9, 2018 17:34
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wernox posted:They are convinced that Brohm will be announced as HC by tomorrow.....I poo poo you not. If they fire Petrino, I don't think Brohm will be coaching in the Motor City Bowl for Purdue.
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Nov 9, 2018 18:08
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Yeah, Kansas is the type of school that to do anything other than maybe make a low tier bowl every 3 or 4 years needs to innovate. Mangino lucked into a QB being better than he should have been and iirc a system that wasn't unique or special, and was relatively balanced between pass and run. Don't get me wrong, I think Mangino made the most of the talent he got, in college that will only take you so far at a place like Kansas. In order to be a perennial bowl contender, you need to go triple option and hope for a down year in the Big 12 to make a top tier bowl.
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Nov 9, 2018 18:59
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:UNC is gonna can Fedora and that's where Littrell ends up late but they aren't. it would cost them something like 25m to can him and they don't have that for football BI NOW GAY LATER fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Nov 9, 2018 |
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Nov 9, 2018 21:12
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:late but they aren't. it would cost them something like 25m to can him and they don't have that for football Did they get hit harder by the fake classes sanctions than I remember or something? I'm not saying Fedora is a good coach by any means, but man UNC is surprisingly terrible to my mind. I figured they'd bottom out at 4 wins instead of 1 or 2.
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Nov 9, 2018 21:28
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Grittybeard posted:Did they get hit harder by the fake classes sanctions than I remember or something? I'm not saying Fedora is a good coach by any means, but man UNC is surprisingly terrible to my mind. I figured they'd bottom out at 4 wins instead of 1 or 2. They got a bunch of guys suspened at the start of the year for selling memorabilia and have had insanely bad QB injury luck I think just about any P5 team can find the money to fire someone if they really want to but I could see giving Fedora a pass for this year
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Nov 9, 2018 21:45
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MourningView posted:They got a bunch of guys suspened at the start of the year for selling memorabilia and have had insanely bad QB injury luck It's a lot of money to come up with to fire Fedora and I don't think they will or really can given some of the stuff going on at the top at UNC.
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Nov 9, 2018 22:05
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Flexbone triple option is kind of passe at this point though. What are some other old offenses they could pull out of the dustbin of history? The wing T? The single wing? The Notre Dame box? The west coast offense?
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Nov 9, 2018 23:16
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Sadly since the PAC-12 is such a shitshow, I'm assuming Clay Helton is coming back to USC for next year. Ugh.
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Nov 9, 2018 23:17
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Mr. BT posted:Sadly since the PAC-12 is such a shitshow, I'm assuming Clay Helton is coming back to USC for next year. Ugh. It seems like when the conference is a poo poo show is exactly when you should make the change
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Nov 9, 2018 23:20
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MourningView posted:They got a bunch of guys suspened at the start of the year for selling memorabilia and have had insanely bad QB injury luck UNC was also really bad last year also There's prob also a guy or two somewhere in admin that thinks Fedora is the second dumbest man on Earth after his media day comments Fedora's biggets problem was that he hired a very bad DC after Chizik hosed off to run a Chick-Fil-A and its all been downhill sicne
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Nov 9, 2018 23:54
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Nov 10, 2018 00:51
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Tony Levine was the guy who quit to run a Chick-fil-a, I think Chizik is just retired outside of the occasional TV gig (which he's pretty good at!)
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Nov 10, 2018 01:35
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MourningView posted:Tony Levine was the guy who quit to run a Chick-fil-a, I think Chizik is just retired outside of the occasional TV gig (which he's pretty good at!) yeah. chiz got fired because their defense was terrible.
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Nov 10, 2018 02:51
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:yeah. chiz got fired because their defense was terrible. it got better under him; i thought he retired to be with his family
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Declan MacManus posted:it got better under him; i thought he retired to be with his family trump world has distorted my sense of reality but i felt like it got better, then got way bad
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:trump world has distorted my sense of reality wiki says 120th before he got there then 96, 63rd, then he retired and larry resumed not giving two shits about defense in between getting sanctioned
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Nov 10, 2018 05:00
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:yeah. chiz got fired because their defense was terrible. No he improved it a ton and then quit out of nowhere. It got really bad again after he left. He's a good coordinator
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Nov 10, 2018 06:12
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Is the Tulane guy officially bad, because I still feel like Kansas has a shot at him.
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Nov 10, 2018 06:29
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I don't think he's bad but he hasn't done anything at Tulane yet. I think he'd definitely take the KU job but he feels a lot closer to getting fired by Tulane than he does to getting a P5 job to me
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Nov 10, 2018 06:31
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MourningView posted:Tony Levine was the guy who quit to run a Chick-fil-a, I think Chizik is just retired outside of the occasional TV gig (which he's pretty good at!) I read an Athletic article tbat said Chizik was running some sort of fast food joint somewhere Maybe it was a Zaxby's. I dunno
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Nov 10, 2018 15:40
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MourningView posted:No he improved it a ton and then quit out of nowhere. It got really bad again after he left. He's a good coordinator okay, trump world has distorted all sense of truth and reality for me so that checks out. i feel ike we also haven't talked enough about USC, does anyone think Clay Helton's days are numbered
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Nov 10, 2018 15:49
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Based on several games I've watched, I don't believe Petrino survives the weekend
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Nov 10, 2018 15:56
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We hardly knew ye, Jeff Brohm, godspeed. also wtf happened to Petrino, despite being a giant piece a poo poo, he was a great coach for the last 15 years?
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Nov 10, 2018 16:44
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an adult beverage posted:also wtf happened to Petrino, despite being a giant piece a poo poo, he was a great coach for the last 15 years? Tired of recruiting maybe? Did he lose a lot of assistants or something along the way? I mean...he's not exactly the most stand up guy in the world and absolutely everyone knows it by now so maybe it's hard for him to replace guys.
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an adult beverage posted:We hardly knew ye, Jeff Brohm, godspeed. Petrino is a great scheme guy, but he's a terrible program builder. Like this sort of fall apart happens everywhere he's ever been, but he always bounces before it happens. In particular he doesn't develop players, doesn't recruit depth, doesn't hire good assistants
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Nov 10, 2018 17:07
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He doesnt have Lamar to bail him out anymore
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Metapod posted:He doesnt have Lamar to bail him out anymore it wasn't even that and if you think that's the case i don't think you watch much football petrino is one of the best play callers going, like period he just doesn't give a poo poo about recruiting or building players
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Nov 10, 2018 17:12
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Grittybeard posted:Tired of recruiting maybe? Apparently when Grantham bailed for Miss St absolutely no one wanted that DC job, which is how they wound up just hiring the lovely guy Miss St. had fired, and how they have VanGorder now Like Andichu said he's not really a guy who builds for sustained success, there's a reason his teams are always a smoking crater as soon as he leaves. He just happens to have been caught in it this time because no one else wants to hire him anymore BI NOW GAY LATER posted:i feel ike we also haven't talked enough about USC, does anyone think Clay Helton's days are numbered USC is by far the weirdest and most insular program of that caliber, they are like impossible to predict. I'd fire him but I also wouldn't have hired him either. Fans seem pretty fed up with him though, and he understandably didn't have a very long lease with them to begin with. MourningView fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Nov 10, 2018 |
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^^--that makes some senseBI NOW GAY LATER posted:he just doesn't give a poo poo about recruiting or building players I was wondering about the recruiting thing when I brought up him possibly losing assistants. I figure that's something he's always needed a guy doing for him more than most since he's such a....well. He's him.
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Nov 10, 2018 17:16
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:it wasn't even that and if you think that's the case i don't think you watch much football Louisville was bad last year but was able to win because Lamar was able to bail out their lovely defense and oline
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Nov 10, 2018 17:23
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MourningView posted:USC is by far the weirdest and most insular program of that caliber, they are like impossible to predict. I'd fire him but I also wouldn't have hired him either. Fans seem pretty fed up with him though, and he understandably didn't have a very long lease with them to begin with. It feels like he is a great guy that the players like and who is good at all the other things, but also you're USC you should be walking away with the Pac-12 South. And man they can do so much better.
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Nov 10, 2018 17:32
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:It feels like he is a great guy that the players like and who is good at all the other things, but also you're USC you should be walking away with the Pac-12 South. And man they can do so much better. Yeah, that's basically the problem. Everyone loves Clay Helton, the dude. It's just that he isn't a great coach and has made some bad decisions with his offensive assistants.
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Nov 10, 2018 17:37
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Petrino is a great scheme guy, but he's a terrible program builder. Like this sort of fall apart happens everywhere he's ever been, but he always bounces before it happens. I didn't realize until looking it up now that he's never had a HC stop longer than 4 years until this current Louisville stint. Guess he's just good at coaching players that already know how to play football, even if they learned football from John L. Smith or Houston Nutt.
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General Dog posted:I didn't realize until looking it up now that he's never had a HC stop longer than 4 years until this current Louisville stint. Guess he's just good at coaching players that already know how to play football, even if they learned football from John L. Smith or Houston Nutt. Smith was actually good at Louisville! And Nutt was good for a long time.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Smith was actually good at Louisville! And Nutt was good for a long time. Yeah I know, it's just funny looking back now.
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