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Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition


Barry Convex posted:

anyone have scans of this or at least an issue number

The most obvious example is probably a conversation in issue #7 between the two leads. "You think the opposition sit around arguing about who has the most right to be racist?"

It seems like this is Ennis's current hobbyhorse subject. If you read enough of his work, he goes through distinct periods in which a particular topic is high on his mind and tends to get worked in at regular intervals. Early in his career, it was the Irish Troubles (with occasional time-outs for anger over racism and/or his take on the question of God); for a while in the 2000s and early 2010s, it was anger over the Catholic church; now he's been writing a lot about his frustrations with modern left-wing movements' problems with presenting a unified front. It's not necessarily that these topics will be the only thing that he writes about, but rather that they'll inevitably get worked into the current project sooner or later.

I think part of it is that Ennis doesn't have the audience goodwill to get away with things like this, because so much of his creative output is deliberately facile. When he tries to draw a relatively subtle distinction, even in more grounded work like A Walk Through Hell, it comes off as poorly as possible because he's also the guy who wrote The Pro and Dicks and the Herogasm arc in The Boys.

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How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas.


Wanderer posted:

now he's been writing a lot about his frustrations with modern left-wing movements' problems with presenting a unified front.

I think what's frustrating is that the stakes he's dismissing are stakes that are precisely most easily dismissed by middle-aged straight white men. He can afford to dismiss what he seems dead-set on glibly framing as facile identity politics because his identity is under most cases never scrutinized-- the monologue in Dear Becky is one bad revision away from the phrases "all lives matter" and "virtue signaling." He's embarrassing himself which sucks because I know good writers as they grow older can confront and amend flaws that were present in their earlier work, but instead he's just entrenching himself amidst the exact same wrecked iconography of patriarchal stability that he was so clear-sighted about in stuff like Preacher (not that Preacher was at all perfect).

Threep
Apr 1, 2006

It's kind of a long story.

In other words, he'd fit in well in D&D

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition


How Wonderful! posted:

I think what's frustrating is that the stakes he's dismissing are stakes that are precisely most easily dismissed by middle-aged straight white men. He can afford to dismiss what he seems dead-set on glibly framing as facile identity politics because his identity is under most cases never scrutinized-- the monologue in Dear Becky is one bad revision away from the phrases "all lives matter" and "virtue signaling." He's embarrassing himself which sucks because I know good writers as they grow older can confront and amend flaws that were present in their earlier work, but instead he's just entrenching himself amidst the exact same wrecked iconography of patriarchal stability that he was so clear-sighted about in stuff like Preacher (not that Preacher was at all perfect).

I do think that he's actually making an effort in that general direction; his output for the last few years in particular has been more focused on female protagonists and perspectives, for example (Caliban, A Walk Through Hell, a couple of the main arcs of A Train Called Love). He's got this particular issue, though, that he's seemingly decided to hammer on.

I'd be real interested in seeing what happens if you had somebody like Charlotte Finn interview him.

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005





https://twitter.com/cheryllynneaton/status/1270061744694624259

gently caress him then, Ralph Dibny deserves better.

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013


Vincent posted:

https://twitter.com/cheryllynneaton/status/1270061744694624259

gently caress him then, Ralph Dibny deserves better.

Dude's also a big Cop Man, he really loved them cops

https://twitter.com/bymeg/status/1270055670994198528

Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!


what's the story here

https://twitter.com/WhitTaylorComix/status/1269962569881657346

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

This avatar brought to you by Mountain DewTM





Guessing dude was a sex pest, and filed a SLAPP suit against women warning other women

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters


I think this was discussed in the previous thread, but short version is that Pickrodt's name showed up repeatedly on one of those "bad actors in ______ industry" spreadsheets that subsequently went public and had a dozen people relating bad experiences with Pickrodt, from not getting paid to anti-semitism to outright rape. Once the document got leaked he sued everyone who talked bad about him for defamation, the majority of the people who he claimed defamed him were dropped from the case because the judge didn't think it was defamation, and I guess the last three settled out of court now?

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017





https://twitter.com/jrome58/status/1269867765684408320

That's a real shame. I've heard good things about both Princeless books.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch


havent read the og princeless but raven is definitely a fantastic book about a pirate ship crewed entirely by queer women and it owns owns owns, and yeah the last couple volumes he's complained about being delayed repeatedly on twitter a few times. hadn't heard about this tho, jesus

e: apparently he hasnt gotten paid either

https://twitter.com/jrome58/status/1269867767450214401?s=20
https://twitter.com/jrome58/status/1269870248217448449?s=20
https://twitter.com/jrome58/status/1269871349008347136?s=20
https://twitter.com/jrome58/status/1269871349872410624?s=20
https://twitter.com/jrome58/status/1269887345031090177?s=20

site fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Jun 8, 2020

Ponsonby Britt
Mar 13, 2006
I think you mean, why is there silverware in the pancake drawer? Wassup?

Lencho posted:

All of these answers make a lot of sense. It's always been weird to me that a lot of the british people spewing this poo poo is surprisingly leftist or at least left-leaning, so I don't really consider them in the same neoconservative/reactionary box as most chuds. gently caress Graham Linehan and J.K. Rowling tho

My understanding of this is that it's historically rooted in the differing contexts of second-wave feminism in the US versus the UK. Basically, in the 70s feminists in both countries had a wide variety of perspectives on trans people. Some of the feminists in either country were welcoming and accepting of trans women, while others viewed them as men trying to infiltrate women-only spaces or whatever. This diverged in the 80s and 90s, because in the US the religious right got very powerful, and started attacking both LGBT people and women in general. Feminists and trans activists realized that the attacks on both of them were rooted in the same conservative gender ideology, so as a practical matter they formed alliances and as a theoretical matter US thinkers constructed ideological beliefs that worked for both women as a whole and trans women specifically. Meanwhile, in the UK, there wasn't really a religious right to remind people who the real fuckheads were, so anti-trans views were still sloshing around in feminist spaces to a much greater degree. It was then easy for right-wing politicians in the 00s through today to grab those views and exploit them as a wedge issue to peel off voters, which also spread the views around.

E the Shaggy
Mar 29, 2010


Comicsgate is dying (Aside from EVS who continues milking his rubes). Andrew Huerta, who did a War Campaign cover and works at legit places like Wizards of the Coast, is terrified of being associated with CG and is now frantically deleting Tweets before his employers find out, denying he was ever a part of them to begin with.

https://twitter.com/JDincauze/status/1270785382129508352?s=20

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007



https://twitter.com/itsureisliz/status/1269457507342221314?s=21

https://twitter.com/hannahtempler/status/1271115871386304512?s=21

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch


That's loving awful and what's even worse is that creators are so hard up for work that they're having to take those gigs anyways

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




What's a flatter?

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Skwirl posted:

What's a flatter?
Nothing much, what's a flatter with you?

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007



Flatting is the process of preparing linework for faster color work by isolating linework areas into flat regions of color to be quickly selected and worked with

https://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/2016/04/cc-flatter/

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




FMguru posted:

Nothing much, what's a flatter with you?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SHoNWwhzh3M

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch


as i understand it, they do rough coloring work. like flatting as in they fill in a page with flat colors without shading or anything, and then the artist/colorist goes in and makes it look good and pretty and finished

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007



Flatters donít fill in with final colors, just colors that are distinct enough that software can easily isolate and help with painting

sliami
Apr 28, 2018





yeah—if you ever seen a flatted page, all the colors look super narsty because the point is the areas should be differentiated at a glance and easily selected to input the actual colors. they're also all aliased.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003





This blog post has examples of flatted pages compared to final colored pages.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007



Anyway getting sidetracked. A lot more people are sharing their lovely Boom pay

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017





I've seen the predictable argument pop up that since Boom isn't one of the big two they can't pay top dollar, but one imagines they could still pay a living wage. I don't know what it's like at IDW but a friend in the industry who knows writers there also says you're still going to be on the hustle if you write just one book for them.

Squidster
Oct 7, 2008

Life's just better with Ominous Gloves.


Help me out here. Is there any comics publisher that pays a decent wage, and doesn't jerk their creators around? Any at all? This industry is drat demoralizing at times.

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




Squidster posted:

Help me out here. Is there any comics publisher that pays a decent wage, and doesn't jerk their creators around? Any at all? This industry is drat demoralizing at times.

Image, if you're already famous.

Digamma-F-Wau
Mar 22, 2016



Dawgstar posted:

I don't know what it's like at IDW but a friend in the industry who knows writers there also says you're still going to be on the hustle if you write just one book for them.

The most I heard about IDW is that it pays better than Archie (which itself pays better than Boom)

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.


Not sure where this stuff goes nowadays, but


https://twitter.com/AvivaMaiArtzy/status/1272708780065796096?s=20

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

how few people do you
need before you can
change the world?


God drat it. Why can't it just be the talentless hacks.

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013



Additional Stuff


https://twitter.com/kateleth/status/1272738680512233472?s=21

cartoons123
Nov 7, 2013


https://twitter.com/kateleth/status/1272741594286845954?s=21

Anyway, guess I was right and itís a case of not if but when a man in comics turns out to be garbage. Iím glad Cameron Stewart is getting his poo poo called out but Iím gonna go sulk in a corner for a while

Lurdiak
Feb 25, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.




He locked his account. He also appears to have blocked me at some point in the past, which I'll take as a compliment.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch


apparently warren ellis is a bad too

https://twitter.com/katiewest/status/1272877038408470528?s=20
https://twitter.com/katiewest/status/1272914682106515458?s=20

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

how few people do you
need before you can
change the world?


Can we just stack all the white guys up and set the pile on fire?

Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




loving Christ.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003

how few people do you
need before you can
change the world?


Way back during the AOL DC/Marvel days he was a regular. Like, all the drat time. And always very friendly with the girls in the chat (once proof of being a lady was confirmed anyways). None of us thought it was weird or creepy because OH WOW FAMOUS WRITER CHATS WITH US

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

When Warren Ellis had his online forum, he only gave mode powers to women, and he'd refer to them collectively as his "deadly sexy henchwomen" and things like that.

Him being a sex pest is the least surprising news imaginable.

e: vvv Wood (a good friend and collaborator of Ellis) would hit on women inappropriately, and try to drive them out of the industry if they turned him down.

Gotta love the headline on this article: Brian Wood accused of sexual misconduct (again)

FMguru fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Jun 16, 2020

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017





She also mentions Brian Woods, but I feel positive we knew he was garbage before now.

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Skwirl
May 13, 2007

The 'blood babe with the silicone chest, 200-dollar haircut, and a closet full of the latest fashions.




Dawgstar posted:

She also mentions Brian Woods, but I feel positive we knew he was garbage before now.

Yeah, he got outed for being creepy to a woman at a con while his wife was at home pregnant with his child

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