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copy posted:I love this part of it so much. The author does a great job making it a real world that makes sense with its own logic. In my life of playing tabletop RPGs, it's probably the best take on "Gygaxian Naturalism" I've ever seen. It's really refreshing and fun, and does a good job of making things seem magical and full of wonderment/terror. Also bringing back past jokes/characterization and re-contextualizing them with new information. Like with Chilchak being treated as a kid because he's a halfling when he is in fact, an adult (and older than Laius: 'Mister Chilchak!')
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please change 'sauce wizard' to sauceror c'mon, man
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Dog Kisser posted:please change 'sauce wizard' to sauceror 
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The latest chapter had some straight up laugh out loud moments. 'Thank you.' THUNK
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Tetracube posted:I wrote some monster cooking rules! https://homebrewery.naturalcrit.com/share/SkXP2f25m
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Jackard posted:I can't load this for some reason..? It's just a blank page. try a different browser? if that doesn't work maybe this?
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I'll make sure to link this thread in the food manga one. Huge props to the great thread title drat
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thetoughestbean posted:I can’t believe Chilchuck is a deadbeat dad I can totally believe it. Though I'd like to think he's at least sending money when he can. Maybe that's part of why he's so money-focused compared to Laius and Marcille.
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Everyone please buy the manga so this wonderful series gets an animated adaption
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I probably will whenever it actually gets localized. I'm not gonna import manga, that's silly.
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Lube Enthusiast posted:Everyone please buy the manga so this wonderful series gets an animated adaption It's got a tiny one already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqj8J9XrOR8
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I love this comic so much. Maybe my favorite running thing right now in general.
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Hace posted:I love this comic so much. Maybe my favorite running thing right now in general.
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Lube Enthusiast posted:Everyone please buy the manga so this wonderful series gets an animated adaption sockpuppetclock fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Oct 16, 2018 |
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I just feel like recent adaptations aren't the best quality as studios have really gotten married to stuff like intermixing 2D and tvCGI and it's not the best looking thing visually. I wouldn't look forward to having the living armors just be copy pasted models or a giant obvious computer generated Dragon.
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sockpuppetclock posted:I'd rather it not... the series already feels "complete" as a manga and I really don't know what studio could even give it the treatment is deserves. Also in my mind every episode would have a meticulous 30 minute segment dedicated entirely to them cooking which is unfortunately not feasible. The manga doesn't even spare that much time showing them cooking so idk why you're pushing for 30 minute segments. Good studios for adaptation: Bones J. C. Staff David Production Madhouse Edit: Actually, not KyoAni. They're capable, but probably unlikely due to their own preferences for adaptation. Brought To You By posted:I just feel like recent adaptations aren't the best quality as studios have really gotten married to stuff like intermixing 2D and tvCGI and it's not the best looking thing visually. I wouldn't look forward to having the living armors just be copy pasted models or a giant obvious computer generated Dragon. Some studios are better at it than others and part of it is just experimenting with new techniques available to them. David does the best job as mixing 2D and 3D elements for action sequences right now as far as I'm aware, but it's still fairly new so most studios are figuring out where and when it's best to use the shortcuts made through CG and when not to. This happened when digital animation first entered the scene as it mixed with traditional animation.
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Putting this here from the generic thread because I looked it out for another place. Also because it's still neat as all getout. https://twitter.com/2bitCrook/status/944332349650632706
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Captain Invictus posted:Dungeon meshi is my second favorite manga ever, it is great Well on the recommendation of my fellow poster from The Gamer's thread I'll have to check this out. Probably later since I have actual work on my plate for once.
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It's hard to think of a more consistent fantasy world than dungeon meshi's. Like, there's not been any sort of contradiction in itself and the world just runs on all these clearly laid out rules like resurrection and dungeon types and stuff, it's great. There's rarely been a BAKANA moment followed by bullshitting up a solution out of nowhere, like this recent chapter is a perfect example of that where they were initially surprised as you do when a party member is abducted by a loving gryphon, but then they plan it out based on how gryphons work and devise a plan of attack based on that. It's all utterly rock solid.
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Captain Invictus posted:It's hard to think of a more consistent fantasy world than dungeon meshi's. Like, there's not been any sort of contradiction in itself and the world just runs on all these clearly laid out rules like resurrection and dungeon types and stuff, it's great. There's rarely been a BAKANA moment followed by bullshitting up a solution out of nowhere, like this recent chapter is a perfect example of that where they were initially surprised as you do when a party member is abducted by a loving gryphon, but then they plan it out based on how gryphons work and devise a plan of attack based on that. It's all utterly rock solid. Wait hang on which manga is your favorite?
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Artificer posted:Wait hang on which manga is your favorite?
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Artificer posted:Wait hang on which manga is your favorite? I could go on for quite a while about it but suffice to say, it's pretty hard to beat. I've been reading it weekly for well over a decade and it's basically never disappointed. Even the lesser arcs like Fishman Island still have insanely good parts to them like the fisher tiger flashback, or the overall message of it (which the anime totally, completely ruined with some filler that rewrote the message lol)
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Captain Invictus posted:More specifically, one piece has had only maybe 3 or 4 stumbles in its 20 year history. The Birdcage being the most awful. Meanwhile the world, setting, adventurous nature, and inventive designs of many of the over 900 named characters(even ones only shown in a single panel) are nearly unparalleled. Some of the designs such as Scratchman Apoo are among my favorite character conceptual designs ever. The characters are also very consistent, in particular Luffy, who is absurdly well written and rarely if ever has broken character in the entire run. One Piece is consistently loving ugly. Despite the seeming fertility of visual design, there's no imagination or invention in it as sequential art. There's no illusion of movement, it's a series of characters being alternatively frozen in place, in extreme close-up, or bursting in action. Every page is stuffed with detail to the point of incoherence. The result is a static mess.
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Not today, satan
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:One Piece is consistently loving ugly. Despite the seeming fertility of visual design, there's no imagination or invention in it as sequential art. There's no illusion of movement, it's a series of characters being alternatively frozen in place, in extreme close-up, or bursting in action. Every page is stuffed with detail to the point of incoherence. The result is a static mess. nope you're wrong.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:One Piece is consistently loving ugly. Despite the seeming fertility of visual design, there's no imagination or invention in it as sequential art. There's no illusion of movement, it's a series of characters being alternatively frozen in place, in extreme close-up, or bursting in action. Every page is stuffed with detail to the point of incoherence. The result is a static mess. This is why I stopped reading after 8 volumes or there about. Ugly art, difficult recognizing the contents of pictures, and could not follow movement around the pages at all.
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It's a shame you gave up before Arlong Park, the arc literally right after you stopped. It's generally regarded as the point where One Piece goes from merely good to great and "clicks" with most people to stick with it, and the art tends to become less of an issue as you continue on and the artstyle evolves. Arlong is a fantastic bastard and the story really sets a tone for the series as a whole. But if you don't want to, that's fine too.
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Calaveron posted:If only there were a thread to discuss one piece
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I like One Piece, been reading it since it came over to the States with the rest of the Shonen Jump roster. But after 900 chapters I really just want it to end and for Oda to stop expanding everything into the unknown we still don't have proper context for. To compare it to Dungeon Meshi: the two biggest plot threads that need more information is the fall of the golden kingdom and the mad sorceror, and the plot of the elves. For the former, we had the paintings chapter to give us some history, along with the current realization that the spirit that spurned this entire dungeon quest to begin with was really the former mayor of the spirits trapped within the dungeon. For the latter, between the Gnomes and the Governor's statements, as well as the elf specialist squad that shows up. We understand that the elves are both seeking to monopolize the spells that keep souls anchored to their bodies, as well as seeking to eliminate the threat of a dungeon evolving into a monster mutating factory like what happened at Kabru's home town. Things are escalating thanks to the prophecy Laius & Co. have learned, and the elves finally showing up. With each new piece of info we are approaching what feels like a final confrontation although it's still a ways off. If I just pick two of the major plot threads from One Piece: The Void Century, and the mystery of Raftel are probably the biggest in my mind. We know there was a massive war during the void century, we know it led to the formation of the World Government. We also know that the losing civilization seeded the world with indestructible stone monuments, as well as lesser ruins recounting the history of things and knowledge of these markers is strictly forbidden on penalty of death. But outside of the doomsday weapons and message from Joy Boy, the only character who can answer anything about all this doesn't talk about the things she's read. And Raftel is a complete dark spot because there is nothing that can really be used to guess what the island contains. It could be a technological marvel not unlike the continent of Mu, or the island of Atlantis. It could be a necropolis of a fallen kingdom filled with the horrors of a long past war. And most recently we got a cryogenically frozen straw hat, a singular leader to the WG when previously it had been the council of the Gorosei, and the biggest blue balls in the history of the series when we jumped to the far less compelling Wano arc just when things were about to pop off at the Reverie. It feels like Oda sometimes avoids revealing any concrete information because to do so would probably put the story in a place where it couldn't just be the adventure he wants it to be. I guess my point is, One Piece is a locomotive train with no real destination despite the conductor insisting he knows the last stop. And over the years I've gotten tired of seeing similar scenery while looking out of the windows when the first time around they were far more colorful. I don't think any manga series that has had this many chapters has stayed as "good" as it used to be and it feels like Oda will have to write for another decade to finish this story out when we have so many more things to cover like the possible and impending global war that could break out. Or the literal hundreds of plot threads connected to his massive cast and just making Sure that Luffy doesn't get swallowed up by any of the bigger fish that can easily put a stop to his journey. I'm a bigger fan of shorter, more focused series. Stuff like FMA and Alice in Borderland really hit that sweet spot of length and scope of story. And one of the few long running series I keep up with enthusiastically is Hunter x Hunter, which gets carried by Togashi's strength as a writer as his arcs don't really "repeat" themselves and he also can create amazing supporting characters and scenarios for each of his arcs. The current of which just knocking it out of the park. Granted HxH could meander around forever too much like One Piece, actually moreso because unlike OP, there isn't a set endpoint for the story of Hunter x Hunter as Gon's quest to find his dad wasn't the end-all of the narrative.
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Saved by BTYB's ace post. Lucky jerks. 
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Brought To You By posted:I don't think any manga series that has had this many chapters has stayed as "good" as it used to be and it feels like Oda will have to write for another decade to finish this story out when we have so many more things to cover like the possible and impending global war that could break out. When you get to be as long as Dragonball or One Piece, consistency stops becoming a good thing and transitions into a bad thing. It doesn't matter how consistently sensational or crazy an experience gets because people will get used to it. Brought To You By posted:With each new piece of info we are approaching what feels like a final confrontation although it's still a ways off. There's also a significant amount of backfilling going on. We've gotten tiny tastes of all the different cultures in Dungeon Meshi, either by quick one-off statements or asides about people's pasts. Then as part of the downtime/release from each threat the party has faced we've gotten a bit more knowledge about the world, either from the things the party cooks or the anecdotes of the past that flesh out the characters more. We learned Sureau was from The East and then we got an experience of just how East it was from when his party showed up. We've gotten tastes about Gnomes and Halflings and a snippet about the Elves from things Chilchak and Mikbell, which was developed in Kabru's past and cemented by the Elf Expedition showing up. Similarly, we've gotten tastes of Dwarven stuff from Namari's backstory and general setting flavor and now Senshi's set to backfill us a bit on that (and the Dungeon too!) And any/all of this information we're getting is the potential to be something great, such as Laius' Amazing Trick, which went as thus: offhand mention -> unveiling -> short flashback explaining why this is possible & filling in a bit of history on Laius and Farlyn. After all, it's good writing to do multiple things at once.
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I think about Laius spot on mimicry of dogs barking a lot
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One thing I really like about this is I can imagine other stories taking place in this world that have nothing to do with the main cast of characters. And it's conveyed without lengthy flashback arcs or going on chapters-long side stories with the main cast nowhere in sight. The world is communicated to us in little pieces as it makes sense for the characters to mention it, rather than some plot-dump character. I think a big part of the success of that is due to Senshi's character. He's clearly been down there a while. So rather than having one audience-insert ignoramus like isekai do, we have Senshi teaching the rest of the party (and thereby us) about dungeon life, while he in turn is educated about the surface world. Boy howdy do I like this comic.
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Xelkelvos posted:The manga doesn't even spare that much time showing them cooking so idk why you're pushing for 30 minute segments. Judging by the hellscape that is this current time line, the people that will animate this show will be the studio that made Thundercats or Thermae Romae. It is also weird that this series has gone unanimated while SAO has three+ season and 4+ games now. I feel like they could just reskin an Atelier game and get something close, those a more indepth game would be deserved for this series. Could the Author not want an anime, like the Azumanga guy doesn't for Yotsubato?
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