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HonorableTB posted:If I pledge to end nothing-matters and dems-bad chat in the Trump thread through probe communism, does that raise or lower my polling numbers I will personally direct GOTV campaigns for you if you do this.
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Lightning Knight posted:I think the issue is that it ought to be a discussion. If two people are having dems are bad chat but it's an actual discussion with actual effort, I think that should be allowed to happen, while unfunny driveby posting should be punished. I'd also add that pre-emptive bitching about dems bad posting should also catch a slap. If you want it gone you gotta kill it on both ends.
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Oh Snapple! posted:I'd also add that pre-emptive bitching about dems bad posting should also catch a slap. If you want it gone you gotta kill it on both ends. 
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Oh Snapple! posted:I'd also add that pre-emptive bitching about dems bad posting should also catch a slap. If you want it gone you gotta kill it on both ends. Yeah, that's why I wasn't specific about who is doing the unfunny driveby shitposting. There's a lot of snide passive aggressive bullshit because people really want to have primarychat but are too chickenshit to start it. On the other hand, people like Vital Signs generally put effort into discussing it when it comes up, and yet he(?) gets punished a bunch for it.
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Oct 18, 2018 17:43
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Lightning Knight posted:On the other hand, people like Vital Signs generally put effort into discussing it when it comes up, and yet he(?) gets punished a bunch for it. Putting effort into doing a bad thing is still bad.
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Paracaidas posted:
Honestly I feel like this rule needs to just be removed from the OP because its so rarely enforced that the very rare times when somebody catches a probe for it just seem arbitrary. If the effort/no effort rule isn't going to be vigorously and evenly enforced it shouldn't be there. Also its really apparent that a significant number of posters here mostly want D&D megathreads to be a place you go to read news articles and tweets that other people post as opposed to a forum where you do original research and then come argue about poo poo. Somebody was complaining in the Russia thread a few days ago that it took an entire day for some breaking news to get mentioned in thread, as though the purpose of a forum called "debate and discussion" is to get breaking news rather than, you know, argue about stuff.
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and Dems are a Waste chat are fine. Sometimes things aren't important and, at other times (quite often, given they hold zero branches of government) Dems fail to achieve their goals.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:I vote the candidate who promises the most hell-purges *Brushes off NKVD uniform* I think that can be arranged...
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Oct 18, 2018 18:40
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The core problem is that the Trump thread isn't a discussion thread, it's just a thread for TV/IVing political news. That's how it's moderated, and that's the thread regulars treat it. But it's not clearly marked, so people go in there to try to Debate And Discuss and end up just getting frustrated.
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Oct 18, 2018 19:42
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I'm for whoever would do something about lovely lazy white noise posting. Wish the "effort being met with no effort" rule was enforced more, is it just a matter of people not using it for reports, or things tend to get too subjective, or what? Edit: I usually disagree with him but Ardennes sticks out to me as someone that seems sane and reasonable and earnest Cicero fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Oct 18, 2018 |
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Oct 18, 2018 20:00
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Oh Snapple! posted:I'd also add that pre-emptive bitching about dems bad posting should also catch a slap. If you want it gone you gotta kill it on both ends. This also extends to "Wow, dems are so great!" bait posts Main Paineframe posted:The core problem is that the Trump thread isn't a discussion thread, it's just a thread for TV/IVing political news. That's how it's moderated, and that's the thread regulars treat it. But it's not clearly marked, so people go in there to try to Debate And Discuss and end up just getting frustrated. if you want to be a TVIV thread for just reacting to Trump posts, fine, but mark it that way and treat it that way and don't try to have any kind of actual discussion in it.
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Oct 18, 2018 20:27
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Cicero posted:Edit: I usually disagree with him but Ardennes sticks out to me as someone that seems sane and reasonable and earnest This too and Lightning Knight.
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Oct 18, 2018 20:30
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LightningKnight is a nice guy, seconding him because I want to see him go mad with power 
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Oct 18, 2018 20:47
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Ardennes and Lightning Knight both seem like they have the temperament. I don't know if he posts enough or hangs around the right threads enough to necessarily be ideal but I'd also suggest Dreylad, who is a CanPol regular, would be another person who is generally even handed and smart enough for the job.
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Oct 18, 2018 20:57
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I know she has had her name mentioned already a few times, but Crow Jane gets my vote as well.
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Lightning Knight posted:Yeah, that's why I wasn't specific about who is doing the unfunny driveby shitposting. There's a lot of snide passive aggressive bullshit because people really want to have primarychat but are too chickenshit to start it. It's mostly annoying because we have the thunderdome/cspam for dembad chat, and the nothing matters dudes are almost always repeating the same poo poo. It's boring threadfiller for a thread that's already way too fast
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Grapplejack posted:It's mostly annoying because we have the thunderdome/cspam for dembad chat, and the nothing matters dudes are almost always repeating the same poo poo. It's boring threadfiller for a thread that's already way too fast Except for anything can get labeled as "nothing matters." E.g. saying Collins was going to vote for Kavanaugh was labeled as "nothing matters." Its a thread that just today was chatting about Michael Phelps eating habits. If we're talking about removing boring threadfiller, maybe we can start with the constant non-political derails before we remove any comment that speaks negatively about the future or Democrats?
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Wistful of Dollars posted:I vote the candidate who promises the most hell-purges I promise if elected I will be too lazy to read any report and the report button will become a magical sixer device to be active about ten hours after you press it when I get around to checking the forum.
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WampaLord posted:
As to your and Trabs points about actual discussion in the thread: The nonPol derails are indeed insufferable (much like my workposting  ). Past that, all Trump and Trump adjacent political topics are fair game for discussion, save for one. A topic which has multiple threads in the subforum(s) dedicated to it, and is welcome in nearly every other one. And even this topic is often broached without punishment provided it's not by someone with a lengthy history of making GBS threads up the thread on the topic or a clear bait post.A modest proposal for the new mod/next purge: rather than banning Fulchrum, Eff, LT2012, mcmagic, etc, train them to USPol and Thunderdome to make sure the succdem stock remains plentiful, and watch as Trumpthread disruption minimizes.
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rask has politely declined so keep the votes and/or names coming. i'd prefer someone who isn't a current or previous mod, also.
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Oct 19, 2018 02:41
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Also think Ardennes would be a good mod.
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Raskolnikov38, Ardennes, and/or Lightning Knight would be great. I would know - I've been here since 2004, have made a lot of very lovely posts, and would therefore know what constitutes a good mod. e: I also know how to spell "Lightning." 
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BrandorKP posted:This too and Lightning Knight. By that measure I think you'd be a good mod BrandorKP  I also like that you say you've never reported anyone ever, which is definitely a positive attribute.I don't know, there's a certain kind of poster who thinks that posting an unpopular opinion is necessarily trolling. I'm not sure what motivates these people because this would be a rather tedious forum if everyone just agreed with each other on everything, but whatever it is I hope the new mod won't give them the time of day.
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Squalid posted:I don't know, there's a certain kind of poster who thinks that posting an unpopular opinion is necessarily trolling. I'm not sure what motivates these people because this would be a rather tedious forum if everyone just agreed with each other on everything, but whatever it is I hope the new mod won't give them the time of day. I agree with this, the forum name includes "debate" for a reason. Also consider me a vote for Lightning Knight.
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Helsing posted:Ardennes and Lightning Knight both seem like they have the temperament. I don't know if he posts enough or hangs around the right threads enough to necessarily be ideal but I'd also suggest Dreylad, who is a CanPol regular, would be another person who is generally even handed and smart enough for the job. Drewjitsu too, he is a Good Poster who tells us cool stuff about laws and stuff!
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Squalid posted:By that measure I think you'd be a good mod BrandorKP Unpopular opinions are one thing if they're backed up by any verifiable fact and the poster is arguing in good faith. Unfortunately, you see precious little of that here, since trolling and/or outright lying is far more attractive a proposition.
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Squalid posted:By that measure I think you'd be a good mod BrandorKP I'm not viable for a couple reasons. Ain't got time for that poo poo (small childern, long work hours, only phone post) is number one. Number two is... how can I say this? Ever read a TB post and go holy poo poo she's angry? I experience that kind of emotional intensity. Now I got very lucky (and i didn't realize how lucky until recently ) and got taught to cope with it and function in society. But that was a long road, and when I was younger I was a handful. Imagine if your normal state was like being on cocaine. I can have that much intensity and energy all the time. Current events and the stress of maintaing work / life balance are fraying my ability to keep the veneer up.
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BrandorKP posted:Number two is... how can I say this? Ever read a TB post and go holy poo poo she's angry? I experience that kind of emotional intensity. Now I got very lucky (and i didn't realize how lucky until recently ) and got taught to cope with it and function in society. But that was a long road, and when I was younger I was a handful. Imagine if your normal state was like being on cocaine. I can have that much intensity and energy all the time. Current events and the stress of maintaing work / life balance are fraying my ability to keep the veneer up. Sounds like you're the commissar we deserve
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Squalid posted:By that measure I think you'd be a good mod BrandorKP Agreeing with everything here. PT6A posted:Drewjitsu too, he is a Good Poster who tells us cool stuff about laws and stuff! Very true, Drewjitsu would also make a great CanPol IK.
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BrandorKP posted:Imagine if your normal state was like being on cocaine. I can have that much intensity and energy all the time. Current events and the stress of maintaing work / life balance are fraying my ability to keep the veneer up. The anime hot blooded mod we've all been waiting for.
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Helsing posted:Very true, Drewjitsu would also make a great CanPol IK. When Helsing and I agree on something, that poo poo has like a 99.9% chance of being inarguably correct  Honestly though, the CanPol thread could probably be modded by a script that just probates ChairMaster whenever he posts in it.
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R. Dieovich posted:rask has politely declined so keep the votes and/or names coming. i'd prefer someone who isn't a current or previous mod, also. Vote changed from KM to eke out. Zachack posted:Somewhat serious answer: Leon Trotsky with the caveat that he is no longer allowed to post in D&D other than to take mod-action or answer questions directed at him, punishable by permaban. Or this. Kith fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Oct 19, 2018 |
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Oct 19, 2018 18:35
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Bring back Tiny Brontosaurus
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Leon is always attempting to stick to factual assertions. He's like a punishment for sloppy thought.
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Oct 19, 2018 19:11
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I propose a Freaky Friday compromise: swap mod teams between Games and DnD.
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Discendo Vox posted:I propose a Freaky Friday compromise: i would never subject the mod team of games to the horrors of DnD
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actual suggestion no one will ever support D&D mods so just make an anonymous mod and get someone who did not ask for the job to help yall
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WoodrowSkillson posted:actual suggestion I'd like to suggest the account name Zen Debate Robot if this goes forward to implementation.
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Discendo Vox posted:I propose a Freaky Friday compromise: I like Video Graves too much to subject them to this horror. Isn't it enough they have to deal with the WoW Lore thread?
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Zil posted:I like Video Graves too much to subject them to this horror. Isn't it enough they have to deal with the WoW Lore thread? Video Games is a saint and is cool and good and my friend, he does not deserve this. It's bad enough that he has to keep coming into WoW Lore and telling people to stop calling each other Nazis over which faction they support. Crow Jane would be a good choice. She's chill and doesn't get into the mud very often, plus her avatars are always related to Christina Hendricks and I've got a tv crush on her :3
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I nominate Da Share Z0ne admin and/or Guy Goodbody. I feel their rule would be tough but fair. Crow Jane if she'll do it
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