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Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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I only have school library experience and most of my "wacky" stories involve children going apeshit when I tell them we don't have the next book in a series (which usually does not exist yet) but I'm excited for this thread!

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Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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I found discarded ham on the library floor three separate times last year. Then I found a smear of cream cheese underneath the European History shelf.

I do not understand.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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I sub in my school's library sometimes. We have a team of parent volunteers who are all kind and generous, but not always the most helpful.

A new parent came in to help today. She spent most of the time texting and, when asked to shelve, walked around in a circle, sighed, then asked, "Where do the books go?" :psyduck:

I explained the layout- elementary on the right, reference in the middle, adult literature on the left.

"Oh. But where do they go?"

"On the shelves?"

I made her Aironfix instead.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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ZamBOOni_Rodeo posted:

What's Aironfix in this context? Google is giving me a bunch of results in Spanish about contact paper.

Yeah, it's like, uhhh, plastic sealing sheet...stuff? We put it on the paperbacks to protect them.

I wasn't sure if it was a standard term or not, like Kleenex or Jello.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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Hyrax Attack! posted:

Are you allowed to veto book choices for kids that seem like a bad idea? Like if a six year old wanted to check out American Psycho?

We do in the school library- technically- but I usually just let them take books that are "adult" unless it's really questionable. For example, The Hobbit is in the adult section, but I'll give it to anyone because, hello. I wouldn't give a third-grader Lolita, however, unless they brought a note.

I'm the reason there was a "seventh graders ONLY" section at my middle school library...the bitch library teacher decided she had a say in the content I read, got mad at my mother for asking her to stop, and changed the rules out of spite. I hope she died of systemic paper cut-based infections.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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By popular demand posted:

Which books did she deny you? Huck Finn(RACIST)? Catcher in the Rye(CONTROVERSIAL)?

A book called Shakedown Street about a homeless girl and how she lived, attended school, lived basically between two cultures, etc. It was really good, except the author kept writing "should of" and "could of," so maybe Ms. Buttface was just trying to shield me from bad English?

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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By popular demand posted:

drat, it's not available for my kindle.
E: And I already got a pile of books to pick up when I get to visit my family in the U.S.

It's probably out of print. Most books I liked in middle school are now. :smith:

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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Shooting Blanks posted:

When I was 20 or so, I read a different book that was basically Lolita but was written from the girl's point of view.

It blew my hair back a little.

Lo's Diary by Pia Pera?

Best part of that book was Dmitri Nabokov's extremely salty and disapproving foreword.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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Oh, god, we didn't need one, let alone two. how was it?

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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Parahexavoctal posted:

https://archive.org/details/shakedownstreet00nasa

(not 100% sure how you arrange to borrow epubs from archive.org, but it's an option they make available)

Just did it and it's working fine. I'm going to ask the head librarian to update our resource lists, too. Thanks for reminding me about this!!! I used it a few years ago in China when I was really sad and needed to reread Maggie Adams, Dancer or I would die.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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This isn't a Nabokov thread, but Humbert tells you he's an unreliable narrator and a liar right off the bat. Yes, the book portrays Lo as the aggressor, to some extent, and he does sort of treat her like a villain, but at no point is the reader meant to take his side. I could be wrong, but that's how I've always interpreted it.

Also, Lolita is an amazing book and I'll pee all over all y'all's shoes to defend it (I'm sure Quilty would approve.)

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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therobit posted:

Don't stand so close to me.

You smell that? That's piss AND literature, baby.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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Lurking Haro posted:

Do I have to call The Police?

*whispers into your ear, exhaling way too hard*
"Would you like to sit on my lap as I read The Lady Who Loved Lightning, little girl?"
*leers Nabokovly*

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:

Danielle Steele and her daughter are both nightmares to wait on as well.

If you bring tea, you better spill tea!

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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MAKE NO BABBYS posted:

I can for sure tell the Danielle Steele stories next time I’m not on my phone!

Yes, please. I once ate a few pages of Malice during a "performance art" piece it was totally IRONIC and EDGY and I didn't want to be there but this girl did soooo and I think it's still in there.

Also, she is a really bad writer. So, so bad.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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el dorito posted:

thread, I have picked up the following



the cashier warned me about Malice and I think he outright spoiled a few parts

I’m going in anyway

OH MY GOD I AM SO EXCITED

Spoilers for Malice that explains why I am so obsessed with its badness: I may be making this up because it's been a long time since I last read it, but I'm almost positive that at one point, the protagonist of Malice is cornered by a murderous lesbian (she is in jail because she shot her dad because he had been raping her ever since she was thirteen because her mother was dying of cancer and she subsequently offered Grace up to her husband sexually because ??????????reason???????????) and the lesbian sprinkles crack on Grace's boob and licks it off. I am not making up anything in the parentheses; it's only the last bit that I'm wondering if I am remembering wrong.

Anyways, that book is for goddamn crazy people, and also very similar in theme to the Ashley Judd movie Double Jeopardy.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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Anyone know where I might be able to buy bulk used kid's books? I am taking over a second grade homeroom class at a local international School; we don't have a library currently because we're converting the current space to be eligible for the IB. the classroom books currently are fun titles like LET'S LOOK AT ROCKS and SATURN IS A THING; my kids are not native English speakers and need some interesting poo poo.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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JacquelineDempsey posted:

Which country are you at right now, and do you want books in English or another language? I live right by a bulk Goodwill warehouse that sells kids books for pennies and I need something to keep me occupied while I'm vaguely out of work right now. I'd be happy to dig around and mail some boxes if shipping isn't crazy cost prohibitive (or if your school can reimburse on shipping). As I said earlier itt, I used to be a shelver that strictly dealt in children's books, so I have an idea of what's age appropriate and whatnot.

I'll also ask my former library peeps if they have suggestions, I'm still friends with a bunch of the youth services staff on FB.

And it's probably the cold medicine talking, but I just keep cracking up at SATURN IS A THING, lol

Holy poo poo, would you really do this??? That would seriously be the most amazing thing ever. I'd definitely pay you back for shipping and whatever the books cost. I live in Spain now, so shipping wouldn't be cheap, but I could send you the money ahead of time if you can give me an estimate. I only need English books (Spanish books would be okay, too) and it's for second grade. As long as there aren't pages missing, I'm not too concerned about condition.

AnonymousNarcotics posted:

I don't know about buying in bulk but I like to go to my public library and buy their discarded children's books. They used to be 5 cents each.

Also if you're in the US and tell me what sorts of books you're looking for and are willing to give a stranger your address (via PM) I will send you a package with books for your classroom (for free)

I'm not in the US, but thank you for the offer! Yeah, I am buying some books from my current school library's hoard of discards, albeit at 2 Euro a pop. The British supermarket has some used books, albeit mostly Kitty Kelley smear jobs and Bad Beach Books, so I'm going to check it out after Christmas.


Saturn is my favorite planet, by the way! It is definitely A THING.

I really do question this teacher for having zero fiction/picture books in the classroom. Just these dry-rear end readers that are trying to get kids excited about important, but boring topics. OH, BOY! LET'S LOOK AT SOIL! or CAN YOU COUNT TO PURPLE? NO, YOU CANNOT: A CHILD'S GUIDE TO COUNTING THINGS, etc.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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JacquelineDempsey posted:

I got you, fellow former CNY woman. :hfive: Along with being a massive library nerd herself, my mom was also a school teacher, so I have mad respect for anyone in that profession and understand about having to buy your own stuff. Even in one of the best funded public school systems in Syracuse, she'd buy things for her kids because "hurrr, don't have enough budget for the special ed program, gotta make sure we can buy a new scoreboard for the football stadium".

My husband is a big astronomy buff, and that's his shtick, artistically, he makes alien planets out of junk. He got home from work yesterday and started touching up the paint job on one of his planets and I, still loopy on cold medicine, said out of nowhere "Hey! Did you know SATURN IS A THING?!" and started giggling until my phlegm-soaked lungs couldn't take it anymore.
He was... confused.


Now if I find a copy of "Harold and the Purple Crayon" while digging thru the Goodwill bins, I am going to die laughing.

Awww poo poo, yeah, Syracuse! (why am I getting excited? I have potatoes, salt, and ice in the kitchen; I can replicate the Syracuse experience if I take them all to a failing mall and then start a gang fight). My dad worked really closely with CNY area public schools- he was one of the earliest proponents of BOCES, if you know what that is/was- and one of the reasons he quit was because he couldn't stand how wealthy school districts STILL poured buckets and buckets of money into football and sports while ignoring special programs. I grew up in and went to school in Cazenovia until I was 16, and we barely even had APs, let alone any kind of accelerated or gifted programs....but we always had a spankin' new football scoreboard. TAKE THAT, CBA!

Your husband's planets sound cool as gently caress!

Anyways.

Not only is Saturn A THING but I had the chance to sneak a few pics today while 'setting up".Sorry for the poo poo quality; I was trying to be unobstrusive. Keep in mind my students are all younger than 8 and English is their third language, so the books should be really interesting and engaging, right?


:downs:


The only possible answer to this question is LET'S TOUCH IT OR LICK IT TO FIND OUT!!!!!!!!!!!! so I am going to hide it, I think. Also, there is a 99% chance that someone licked the book itself.

e: This isn't math.


lmao what a fuckin nerd


Excellent question! Who knows what a radio is? Oh, nobody, because you were all born in 2011? Never mind, then.


Not only is this not applicable to ANY of the students in the elementary school, but in Catalunya this isn't exactly the safest question to ask.


Because I said so? Seriously, I looked at the book and "because I said so" flew out of my mouth.


(I am, of course, going to promote these books like they're the most fascinating things ever.)

Fleta Mcgurn fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Dec 28, 2018

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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Midjack posted:

True Porn Clerk Stories, on improvisation.ws. The site is long gone but the Wayback Machine provides at least the first page:

https://web.archive.org/web/20051215081613/http://www.improvisation.ws/mb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4475

It's not quite a librarian experience but you will probably recognize some common themes.

After the site went down the author of the thread made a book True Porn Clerk Stories that is currently available on Amazon.

This was the first thing I ever read on the Internet that I kept going back to and re-reading. It was mostly dead by the time I discovered it, but I loved it so much.

JacquelineDempsey posted:

The next book in the series should be "Can You Post When You're Dead?" and the answer is yes, because I just died laughing at those. Holy crow, you weren't kidding, Fleta. "Robert Makes a Graph" --- omg tell me how it ends but put it in spoiler tags, please! Wouldn't want to ruin that roller coaster of a story for anyone else.

Hell yeah I remember BOCES, good on your dad for supporting them. (For those of you not from the area, it was a vocational education program for kids that struggled with traditional academics for one reason or another) Sad thing is, the image we all had at the time were those were the dumb kids, or the bad kids, that got put on the short bus in the afternoon to go to BOCES classes. I'll just come out and say it: it was the 80s and we were kids, so anyone in that program got called a retard.

Those "retards" all learned a valuable trade and probably own their own homes now, making mad bank as car mechanics or electricians, while my MA is gathering dust and I'm a line cook struggling to pay rent. It's me, I'm the retard.

(NB. I hope no one's offended by my use of the word "retard" and get my point about how stupid and offensive kids in the 80s could be before we knew better.)

BOCES actually sent a recruiter to our classes in eighth grade...it didn't go well. I got picked on a little bit because my dad was so strongly in favor of the program, but not much. For him, it was really personal because he'd grown up poor and, while very smart, hadn't been an academic person. He remembered wishing there was a way to move into a vocational program while still receiving good training at a high pedagogic standard, so BOCES seemed like an amazing idea to him. And, honestly, the Caz contingent of BOCES kids generally needed that separation and intervention. I had a couple of friends in the program, actually- one girl with severe dyslexia who was smart, but gun-shy about challenging herself in general (she went into the florist program and is doing really well) and one guy who was just a fuckup redneck (culinary school until jail.) Quite a few of the students from my school from Special Education DID go to BOCES, but plenty went on to college, too. It just gave certain kids more options and choices. I never would have been interested, but now I wonder if more of my friends who weren't very academic should have entered the program.

But, yeah. "Retards" all the way down. Kids were so lovely when I was in high school.

Coasterphreak posted:

To be fair, they probably did that to keep kids like me from disassembling on a whim.

My classroom usually has a "toolbox" with old VHS tapes and things for kids to take apart and try to put back together...or turn into something else entirely! It's great, as long as nothing in there is sharp (I check every time it's used to make sure there are not sharp or broken bits). Haven't spent much time with the new crew yet and am not sure they're ready. Hopefully by March, though.


And on that note, most of the rest of the books are obnoxiously dull, but not as funny as the previous six titles. I am disappoint. We have, in total, six books that are actually stories. I think everything we have is a Guided Reading Program reject. No DK Discovery books, no Magic Schoolbus, no Terry Deary...gently caress, I don't even have the goddamn Hungry Caterpillar! I managed to scrape together about 10-12 Roald Dahl and American Girl books from my own collection, but nothing that's really at their level. ARGH.

E: Retards All the Way Down is my least favorite John Green book.

Fleta Mcgurn fucked around with this message at 13:07 on Jan 4, 2019

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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oystertoadfish posted:

one of the weirdest self inserts I read was this polish American engineer who goes back in time and, like, teaches medieval Poland how to make machine guns before the Mongols come (also he has sex with lots of teenaged medieval polish girls)

a book or two later the poles are in the Amazon looking for rubber and there are sexy Amazons there

I can't remember what it was called but it's one of those 'as an engineer I could create a modern military industrial complex in my garage and also I should get to have sex a lot' things

I honestly thought you were talking about Timeline at first.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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Cythereal posted:

Sorry for double posting, but it's been that kind of weekend.

I've been asked for a lot of strange things over the years I've been a librarian, but today gave me a new one. "Hello. I've recently come into possession of some tablets written in ancient Sanskrit and I was wondering if there was anyone there who could translate them for me."

Oh, god, what fresh new wave of Mormonism is starting here?

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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I get to be the boss librarian when my school finally gets a library!!!

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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Cythereal posted:

I got screamed at by a student for my first time in a new job, but fortunately got an email from my boss today backing me up all the way.

Students: don't leave your assignments until the last minute. Especially if your assignment requires either a signature from a librarian confirming that they helped you find the very specific kinds of articles you need for this assignment or a phone call from said librarian to the professor attesting as much. Because this assignment was due on Sunday night. And no titled librarians - the specific people the assignment required, all our current librarians were listed on the sheet as potential contacts - work on the weekends.

And they had since the second week of January to do this assignment.

And I had to tell the student how to reach the college's website in the first place. They genuinely didn't know that "[normal three letter abbreviation for the university].edu" was our website.

Definitely let the prof know. That class needs a talking-to. Also, that student is dumb as hell.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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DeadFatDuckFat posted:

Oh man, is this the academic library version of "muh taxes pay your salary" :bahgawd: . I always think that argument is hilarious. I mean, I pay taxes too, but that still doesn't mean I can walk onto an army base and drive off in a tank

Someone tried this on me once (not in a library setting) and I said "I pay school taxes and don't have kids, so..." Then they were hardcore owned and I did a radical skateboard flip and hosed their mom.

Okay, I trailed off like a weenie and they just huffed away, but I still think, you know, gently caress that lady.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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What a hideous loving library, upskirt potential notwithstanding.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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We've gone from throwing oneself in the gorge next to Nabokov's old house to throwing oneself off what can only be described as a perve grate; I don't predict a shining future for the Ivies.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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Like imagine being on the top floor and your earring falls out.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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Instead of librarywide hide-and-seek games, they do library-wide Plinko.


tbh I want to stand at the top, spread my legs, squat, and yell down, "HEY, NANCY! DID I TUCK MY TAMPON STRING IN BY MISTAKE?"

E: "I DIDN'T? OKAY, LET'S PLAY THE FISHING GAME!"

EE: oh no im yelling in the library!!!!

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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I went to this ugly bitch back in my sexy college days. It's either called the Turkey or the Peacock, depending on your general optimism or lack thereof, and it's a windowless concrete death hole where you could easily hide many, many bodies.

I once tried to go up the Robarts elevator to my first session of a class only to be told that there are multiple "versions" of the floor I needed and to go back down IMMEDIATELY. Like, this random guy actually crossed his arms and glared at me until the elevator doors closed. What hideous state secrets I stumbled upon, I'll never know.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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Out of curiosity, is anyone doing online online storytime casts out of their libraries?

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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I can lick some books for you, if you're still planning on it. :)

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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Overdrive is wonnnnderful.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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But...they really aren't...

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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Just don't lick the patron and then swallow the book whole.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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I never thought I'd say such a thing, but I wish the library next door was still shut down because the lights go on at 4 AM even though the place doesn't open until 10. And apparently they have funding for ten-squillion-watt bulbs.

It's 4:45 am, that's how my goddamn day is going. UGH WHAT ARE YOU DOING, DETAILING THE BOOKS?!

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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Go in and use that mofo! That's why it's there!

I love makerspaces, god drat.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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Cythereal posted:

Yes.

At the universities I worked at, it was a common prank.

Public libraries, some people just used them as a garbage disposal.

And every county library system I've visited has had a story of a kitten being shoved in one. Who is of course promptly adopted by the library staff as a library cat and named Dewey because it's apparently required by the ALA.

That did actually happen at the library in my hometown! (Here's a link to the museum 'cause they got a mummy and it loving owns.) Dewey is long gone by now, sadly.

I had no idea pickles were a common thing to stick in drop boxes. I guess they just shrivel up, and don't rot, so it's...well, nicer than sticking a regular cucumber in, I guess.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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Inceltown posted:

Not exactly library related but also insanely likely to be this threads jam.

https://twitter.com/dancohen/status/1350831682350415872

I got an album that documents the laying of submarine cables in the late 19th century, which is both cool and boring.

https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/documents/aa110067291/album-documenting-the-laying-of-numerous-submarine-cables

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Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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VinylonUnderground posted:

Just as long as the pencil cup is filled with someone's jizz. I'm not a librarian so I don't claim to understand it, but my experience shows that it is an essential component of a functioning library.

It keeps the pencils supple and youthful.

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