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tonberrytoby posted:e: does anybody know enough about ships to tell me what those walks on the orlop deck are even for? shivering the timbers, mostly
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tonberrytoby posted:It was the last one I got, along with the guy in the port walk. Who is difficult in a extremely rewarding way.
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Oct 26, 2018 22:56
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Dominoes posted:I believe there's a line explicitly saying there are 3 shells. Which is very interesting considering that Chioh Tan, the guard, who's one of four people you'd expect to really know what he's talking about specifically says *the* shell. My thought is that the crew only has a very brief bit of dialog before Tan is spiked and the chef's death to work from and draw an incorrect conclusion about shells vs the Shell.
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Oct 26, 2018 23:42
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tonberrytoby posted:And that the cook needs an unusually exact cause of death. I tried every beast related cause before I caught on. (assuming we're talking about the same guy—captives part 2, right?) Zyxyz fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Oct 27, 2018 |
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Oct 27, 2018 01:13
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Zyxyz posted:Oh god, it's a cause of death thing? I had decided that guy must have not actually been the cook somehow because it just didn't make sense for speared/spiked to not work this is an incredibly direct hint: what, exactly, did the cook get struck with?
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Oct 27, 2018 01:25
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I found that one difficult too, he’s (barely a spoiler) the only one who dies that way.
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Oct 27, 2018 02:25
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Hint: Given that it was tied up, how could it have struck him?
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Oct 27, 2018 02:51
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Begemot posted:This game is fuckin' great. Yeah, this really worked well for me early on in that creeping horror way. I think I audibly gasped when I first realized that Abigail wasn't killed by a falling beam, but by a beam being swung by a giant tentacle, and then later The Soldiers of the Sea was just an amazing set of slowly escalating horror as it went from "okay, this guy got impaled and crawled off here, that's bad, wait, looking through the holes I can see the crew getting attacked by... giant crabs? This crew has the worst luck. " to "okay, these guys got actually impaled and stuck onto the crab itself, what a godawful way to go" to "oh gently caress that's a thing which is RIDING the crab oh gently caress"
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Oct 27, 2018 15:46
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I wish there was a way to revisit a scene other than walking around to the corpse again, unless I am mistaken?
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Oct 27, 2018 21:18
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Elendil004 posted:I wish there was a way to revisit a scene other than walking around to the corpse again, unless I am mistaken? Nope. It's one thing most people seem to agree on the game could use. Hell, I'd settle for a teleport between top/bottom deck, even.
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Oct 27, 2018 21:25
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Yeah if once you had collected all the non-Ch. 8 scenes you could just freely pinball between them using the notebook, that'd be great.
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Oct 27, 2018 21:31
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I'm Taiwanese-American and this is the last place in the world where I expected to see representation. Can't wait to get to the part where they all is alive, on Asia.
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Oct 27, 2018 22:03
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How are you supposed to get alive, in Africa? I got it by trial and error for the 4 in the boat, but I tried all the islands nearby first. What's the clue?
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Oct 28, 2018 01:02
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Elendil004 posted:How are you supposed to get alive, in Africa? I got it by trial and error for the 4 in the boat, but I tried all the islands nearby first. What's the clue? hint: It's not anything you'll see on the boat.
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Oct 28, 2018 01:06
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Elendil004 posted:How are you supposed to get alive, in Africa? I got it by trial and error for the 4 in the boat, but I tried all the islands nearby first. What's the clue? The hard to notice one in the books foreword : Henry Evans, the ship surgeon, wrote the book and asks you to send it back to him in Morocco. There is also a second hint in the bad ending: Miss Bird's letter to you states that she was on the Obra Dinn.And now lives in Morocco.
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Oct 28, 2018 01:09
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Hah I never connected those, too meta. I feel like I'm at the guessing stage. Been through all the scenes twice though I can't seem to find the hammock scene again.
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Elendil004 posted:Hah I never connected those, too meta. I feel like I'm at the guessing stage. Been through all the scenes twice though I can't seem to find the hammock scene again. There are a couple but you're probably thinking of Scene 2-1--the wrapped body by the stern stairs on the orlop deck.
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Finished the game last night. It was really good, although near the end it becomes less about working out what happened and more about solving which minor seaman is which based on personal effects, shoes, and bunk numbers, which is still fun but is less dramatic.tonberrytoby posted:e: does anybody know enough about ships to tell me what those walks on the orlop deck are even for? Lucas Pope posted:It's typically called a "carpenter's walk." For some reason I can't find any references on Google but Ecky's pic does show it. It's designed to allow access to the ship hull for repairs while at sea. If you're firing canons at an enemy ship, you want to hit just below the waterline to flood the ship and sink it, so the walk is a countermeasure against that happening.
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Elendil004 posted:How are you supposed to get alive, in Africa? I got it by trial and error for the 4 in the boat, but I tried all the islands nearby first. What's the clue? You have to figure out what the 'Escape' is and what led to the failed mutiny. The 4th mate steward and the civilians took the last boat 'somewhere' nearby to keep them safe. A topman was so incensed by the plan (and losing the last means of escape) that he openly murdered a steward as they were about to leave. Presumably the mutineers plan was similar to the escape plan. Olus 'didn't trust the captain' and wanted to take the ship 'east', which according to where they were on the map, would take them to Africa. The 4th mate didn't agree, shouted Mutiny!, and shot Olus in order to pacify it. The game is real good, likely my favourite from this year.
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The Hidden Achievement is going to be kinda annoying to get since I just went through and got everything.
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Tokamak posted:
Olus was suggesting mutiny to the 4th mate, who as ambivalent. The last midshipman overheard them and shouted mutiny. Then Olus stabbed the midshipmen. The 4th mate got angry at Olus or tried to hide his accompliceship and shot Olus. Then Brennan sees the 4th mate surrounded by bodies and clubs him.
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Oct 28, 2018 15:44
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I've found something I don't get. Emily Jackson and Miss Jane Bird's sketch portraits are clear from the moment you first see them, during Scene VII-8. What clues am I missing that would identify them that early on?
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Oct 28, 2018 19:05
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Really Pants posted:I've found something I don't get. One has a wedding ring, the other doesn't. There are only three (English) women on the ship, and you've already identified one by that point, so....
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Oct 28, 2018 19:26
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 This loving game.
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Begemot posted:One has a wedding ring, the other doesn't. There are only three (English) women on the ship, and you've already identified one by that point, so.... Uuuuuuuugh. Those and the Chinese topmen were the only ones that I just got by trying it both ways. I thought it was odd that one was specifically titled 'Miss' when no one else was given a title - but that didn't click at all. Anyway, that was great. I'm convinced that Brennan was a murderous, mutinous bastard from the word start. Just look at the slimy prick.
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What happened to the goat?
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Elendil004 posted:How are you supposed to get alive, in Africa? I got it by trial and error for the 4 in the boat, but I tried all the islands nearby first. What's the clue? There’s actually a much easier way. The mutineers leave in the early part of Scene 9. Also in Scene 9, Oleg the assistant gunner is talking of stealing the boats and the treasure and heading due east, which implies he’s tied in with those stealing the boats; the only thing due east is Africa, so that must be where they went.
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skeleton warrior posted:There’s actually a much easier way. The ones that leave aren't mutineers though, they're mostly passengers getting the hell out of there. You know they're (almost definitely) in Africa because that's where the surgeon tells you to send the book.
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Oct 28, 2018 21:00
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This game is pretty clever. Unusually so
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Dominoes posted:I believe there's a line explicitly saying there are 3 shells. xthetenth posted:Which is very interesting considering that Chioh Tan, the guard, who's one of four people you'd expect to really know what he's talking about specifically says *the* shell. My thought is that the crew only has a very brief bit of dialog before Tan is spiked and the chef's death to work from and draw an incorrect conclusion about shells vs the Shell. You're both right. The Formosans had only one shell in their possession. The others were captured with the mermaids; when they attack Nichols and his merry men in Chapter IV, you can see two of them wearing shells in their hair.
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I must be the densest bastard on the planet because I'm getting nowhere with this. I've got the first three fates and now I've got two guys I should apparently be able to identify. One is the tattooed guy from The Doom part 7 who gets torn up by the kraken - later on someone tells the bosun that his mate gets torn apart so I thought Bosun's Mate, but apparently not? He doesn't really look like a bosun's mate, not that I know what one of those looks like.. But the one that's really bothering me is the one before that from Doom part 6 because he's only in two memories, one where he's getting blown the gently caress up by a keg of gunpowder and doesn't say anything and the one directly before that where he's just... running up the stairs? I have no idea how I'm supposed to get it from that. What am I missing there?
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Unkempt posted:I must be the densest bastard on the planet because I'm getting nowhere with this. I've got the first three fates and now I've got two guys I should apparently be able to identify. One is the tattooed guy from The Doom part 7 who gets torn up by the kraken - later on someone tells the bosun that his mate gets torn apart so I thought Bosun's Mate, but apparently not? He doesn't really look like a bosun's mate, not that I know what one of those looks like.. But the one that's really bothering me is the one before that from Doom part 6 because he's only in two memories, one where he's getting blown the gently caress up by a keg of gunpowder and doesn't say anything and the one directly before that where he's just... running up the stairs? I have no idea how I'm supposed to get it from that. What am I missing there? Sometimes it says "possible to identify" without it actually being reasonable to identify, don't bash your head in, move on to other stuff and see if solving other mysteries helps you put a semblance of order to things. On the tattooed guy - Take a look through the ship's roster. Is there someone in there who would be more appropriate than most to be heavily tattooed?
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Unkempt posted:I must be the densest bastard on the planet because I'm getting nowhere with this. I've got the first three fates and now I've got two guys I should apparently be able to identify. One is the tattooed guy from The Doom part 7 who gets torn up by the kraken - later on someone tells the bosun that his mate gets torn apart so I thought Bosun's Mate, but apparently not? He doesn't really look like a bosun's mate, not that I know what one of those looks like.. But the one that's really bothering me is the one before that from Doom part 6 because he's only in two memories, one where he's getting blown the gently caress up by a keg of gunpowder and doesn't say anything and the one directly before that where he's just... running up the stairs? I have no idea how I'm supposed to get it from that. What am I missing there? If you haven't already, there's nothing wrong with finding all the memories before you really start trying to pin down fates. There's no reason to kill yourself trying to work out the ones you have available when you might not have all the information to solve it (having their face clear means there's technically enough information to work it out, but that doesn't mean you will without a shitload of other information to help).
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Unkempt posted:I must be the densest bastard on the planet because I'm getting nowhere with this. I've got the first three fates and now I've got two guys I should apparently be able to identify. One is the tattooed guy from The Doom part 7 who gets torn up by the kraken - later on someone tells the bosun that his mate gets torn apart so I thought Bosun's Mate, but apparently not? He doesn't really look like a bosun's mate, not that I know what one of those looks like.. But the one that's really bothering me is the one before that from Doom part 6 because he's only in two memories, one where he's getting blown the gently caress up by a keg of gunpowder and doesn't say anything and the one directly before that where he's just... running up the stairs? I have no idea how I'm supposed to get it from that. What am I missing there? Your second man has some more info in other memories where he doesn't appear.
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Elendil004 posted:How are you supposed to get alive, in Africa? I got it by trial and error for the 4 in the boat, but I tried all the islands nearby first. What's the clue? My assumption was that since the doctor was on the boat, and his preface told us to return the book to Morocco (Africa), then the rest of the people on the boat ended up in Africa too. That might have been a logic leap, but it worked, so whatever 
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I wonder why Henry Evans didn't just fill the book in himself? He would've known most (if not all) of the identities and fates just from his time on the boat - at least up until chapter 9. And he had the pocketwatch and monkey hand so he could've easily looked into chapter 8 from the comfort of his home. The least the old bastard could've done was annotated the sketches with everyone's names. 
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Steve2911 posted:I wonder why Henry Evans didn't just fill the book in himself? He would've known most (if not all) of the identities and fates just from his time on the boat - at least up until chapter 9. And he had the pocketwatch and monkey hand so he could've easily looked into chapter 8 from the comfort of his home. Probably, the point is, he also wanted the story to be passed on, and not just through a book but through a witness, which is why he sent you there with the watch in the first place and eventually even provided the monkey hand. Chev fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Oct 28, 2018 |
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Wife and I killed this in one day, probably about 13 hours. We eventually got frustrated with the Chinese Topmen and just brute forced their names. The only scene that really confused us was The one with the dude who loses his leg. For some reason we just swapped the surgeon's mate and the captain's steward for the whole game going off the dialog. It wasn't until we were pulling our hair out and going through all the scenes again did we notice the actual surgeons mate sitting with his bag next to the Formosans after they were laid out on the boat. Overall 10/10, would test the strength of our marriage arguing over if dudes in pictures look Chinese or not again.
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Scott Manley has a great video about the game. The parts that make it unique start at 2:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXT_9qs_ft8.Unkempt posted:I must be the densest bastard on the planet because I'm getting nowhere with this. I've got the first three fates and now I've got two guys I should apparently be able to identify. One is the tattooed guy from The Doom part 7 who gets torn up by the kraken - later on someone tells the bosun that his mate gets torn apart so I thought Bosun's Mate, but apparently not? He doesn't really look like a bosun's mate, not that I know what one of those looks like.. But the one that's really bothering me is the one before that from Doom part 6 because he's only in two memories, one where he's getting blown the gently caress up by a keg of gunpowder and doesn't say anything and the one directly before that where he's just... running up the stairs? I have no idea how I'm supposed to get it from that. What am I missing there? The first guy gets a hint in Soliders of the Sea part 1. The second guy is mentioned in a scene where he doesn't appear. Though I think both of these are much easier if you know some background information about British sailing ships. VictualSquid fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Oct 29, 2018 |
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Stayed up until 1 AM finishing this last night, holy poo poo what a perfectly brilliant game. Not a single misstep (from it, not me), and I'm chagrined at all the hints I missed (like the goddamn hammock numbers) while largely brute-forcing my way through the last six seamen. I did note that, in addition to some people being mysteriously unblurred without obvious cause, there are other figures (like the surgeon) whom it is 100% possible to ID from context clues before their portraits clear up. Not sure what that's about, or why it sometimes gives only a single Difficulty Triangle to figures that took me forever -- was there a way I missed to tell which of the Indian crewmen was the one leaning over the sick guy's hammock in A Deadly Cold? Because that was marked one triangle, and I couldn't resolve it until close to the end of the game. Also, what specific clue did I miss that let you distinguish between the carpenter and his mate?
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