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Moot .1415926535
Mar 24, 2006

Yep, that's pretty much it.
La Niña is no bueno for me, but this has been such a bizarrely wet summer that I’m not going to give up hope for big storms.

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ironlung
Dec 31, 2001

Pre-season update from Aspen: they changed our logo from a stylized Aspen leaf to an onion and people are very pissed that they are now charging $70 for a season uphill pass (they also dropped the price of a full season pass by $200 and it includes uphill access but nobody seems to care about that)

Please update the log.

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

Talkin about a little place called onnnnnion

Eejit
Mar 6, 2007

Swiss Army Cockatoo
Cacatua multitoolii

I don't mind the onion. The old leaf looked old, and maybe they went a bit too modern on it, but I'd put an onion bumper sticker on my jeep.

The uphill pass is pretty whatever. I think they need an uphill day pass option, but ultimately, what. ever.

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

I probably should buy a ski pass for the season.... Here comes my money Vail.

$70 for an uphill is whatever. I pay that for my access to Vail Pass each winter. They really only rescue the snowmobilers.

spwrozek fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Aug 17, 2021

ironlung
Dec 31, 2001

Eejit posted:

I think they need an uphill day pass option

There is an uphill day pass option, it will cost about $70. Please pay attention.

ironlung fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Aug 18, 2021

Steve French
Sep 8, 2003

ironlung posted:

Pre-season update from Aspen: they changed our logo from a stylized Aspen leaf to an onion and people are very pissed that they are now charging $70 for a season uphill pass (they also dropped the price of a full season pass by $200 and it includes uphill access but nobody seems to care about that)

Please update the log.

ironlung posted:

There is an uphill day pass option, it will cost about $70. Please pay attention.

Sooo the uphill season passes and day passes are the same price?

ironlung
Dec 31, 2001

Steve French posted:

Sooo the uphill season passes and day passes are the same price?

yes that is the joke i attempted to make

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

Steve French posted:

Sooo the uphill season passes and day passes are the same price?

SWING and miss....


ironlung posted:

yes that is the joke i attempted to make

I thought it was quite good.

Steve French
Sep 8, 2003

ironlung posted:

yes that is the joke i attempted to make

well poo poo I guess I can’t claim to have made that earnest an effort to get it

highme
May 25, 2001


I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


spwrozek posted:

SWING and miss....

I thought it was quite good.

I also avoided the slough on this.

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005
The bird is doing only a single small parking lot as free parking this year and every other spot requires a 800 usd parking pass which isn't for sale any longer or a 20 dollar reservation per day.

This new future kinda sucks. Lotta early mornings in my future, hopefully a gondola up the canyon becomes reality here.

I'd easily pay for an 800usd yearly canyon pass if the money went to udot or salt lake county but no way am I paying the resort that much, since none of it will go to fixing the transportation issues long term.

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





wilfredmerriweathr posted:

The bird is doing only a single small parking lot as free parking this year and every other spot requires a 800 usd parking pass which isn't for sale any longer or a 20 dollar reservation per day.

This new future kinda sucks. Lotta early mornings in my future, hopefully a gondola up the canyon becomes reality here.

I'd easily pay for an 800usd yearly canyon pass if the money went to udot or salt lake county but no way am I paying the resort that much, since none of it will go to fixing the transportation issues long term.

That parking pass costs as much as my season pass for me and my son. That is crazy. The math on it doesn't work out nearly as well as a season pass. A full Epic pass that is, lets say, 1k, means you have to hit the mountain between 7-10 times to make the pass break even with lift tickets. On the other hand, you would need 40 trips at the 20 dollar lot to equal the price of the parking pass. I have flexible work days and getting 40 days in a season would still be tough.

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005
The main reason to get said parking pass is it exempts you from needing a reservation at all - reservations are 20 a day but only limited spots are available. With the 800 dollar pass, you can just show up, which is why they only offer a limited number of them.

That said, our season passes are only about 1200 bucks so yeah that parking pass is the better part of the price of a whole season pass.

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





Oh, yeah, I could see it being worth the cost to guarantee you have a spot to park. Even with the guaranteed spot though I could imagine traffic getting up there might be a challenge until they come up with some solution, and covid eventually (hopefully) dies down.

Varg
Jan 13, 2007

A friendly face.

how hard is it to build more parking lots jfc :stare:

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





Varg posted:

how hard is it to build more parking lots jfc :stare:

Mt. Hood has seen their parking situation for their two main resorts get really squeezed the last few years, since I started skiing. It took Mt. Hood Meadows about 4 years to lay down about 200 additional parking spots and Timberline is adding 400 more or so but have not started yet, to my knowledge. I don't know if it is the same elsewhere, but our resorts are somewhat constrained by having to work with federally managed land that they lease or interact with, which can cause things to take some time. As far as I know Alta/Snowbird and the other resorts in the canyon don't have adjacent towns/villages, so adding parking might have the same sort of challenges for them, and I have heard that the traffic situation is so bad that they would prefer other options instead of more cars.

highme
May 25, 2001


I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


Varg posted:

how hard is it to build more parking lots jfc :stare:

it ain't easy

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005
There's a moratorium on building most things in little cottonwood canyon, and there's also literally no space to build more lots at snowbird in particular. Check it out on Google maps satellite.

They'd need some kinda forest service ok to build a new lot and I don't think they could get it. Theres a long term plan to expand to another drainage on the backside but to get the usfs ok on that they had to promise they wouldn't add any roads or base areas back there. Which sucks because it's the only option to reduce the number of people travelling up lcc and is in fact a really good idea (this would be in American fork canyon, but is a non starter due to their agreements with usfs and the town of American fork.)

wilfredmerriweathr fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Aug 18, 2021

asur
Dec 28, 2012
Am I completely misreading Snowbirds Parking Page? It still shows ~5 lots as available for free parking plus an additional ~4 at Entry 4 (Cliff Lodge). I thought this was the standard parking situation there for the past 3-4 years that I've visited.

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005
Hot drat, they once again changed their tune on parking! They did the same thing last year

Passholders got an email in like June about the parking situation being free parking in upper gad valley lot only, no parking on sr210, and reservations everywhere else but it seems like they walked that back again gently caress YEA

If they hold true to this latest update then it's actually less restrictive than last year, when you literally had to have a reservation.

wilfredmerriweathr fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Aug 19, 2021

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
A lot of these places have also been spending the last decade or 2 turning their parking lots into condos and villages

Verman
Jul 4, 2005
Third time is a charm right?

Varg posted:

how hard is it to build more parking lots jfc :stare:

Stevens pass in Washington has this issue. I've been several times when all their lots are full and they were shooing people away. We would end up driving into Leavenworth and just ate/drank before driving home. If you show up a little late and get into one of the distant lots (5 miles away?) Odds are you're going to stand on line for the shuttle that comes once every 30 minutes and is likely already full. Plus the line might be 2 hours long before you can get on. Then you get to the resort and have to stand in the lift ticket line if you don't have a pass. Then the lift lines are atrocious. If you show up at 7 and you don't have a lift ticket, you might not even get on the slopes until nearly lunch time. In my experience though, the parking lots fit about the maximum amount of people that can fit in the slopes before it's overcrowded. I don't really ski there much anymore because of their parking.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



wilfredmerriweathr posted:

The main reason to get said parking pass is it exempts you from needing a reservation at all - reservations are 20 a day but only limited spots are available. With the 800 dollar pass, you can just show up, which is why they only offer a limited number of them.

That said, our season passes are only about 1200 bucks so yeah that parking pass is the better part of the price of a whole season pass.

So wait, if you buy the $800 pass you’re guaranteed a spot without a reservation? Does that mean they just hold open a certain number of spots indefinitely, and if a pass holder doesn’t show the spot never gets used?

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005
That's how it worked last year, yes.

Moot .1415926535
Mar 24, 2006

Yep, that's pretty much it.
one weird trick to create more employee housing…

some real dummies on our town council.

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi
I have a pair of boots that I like, but I'm not sure I'm thrilled with, comfort wise. Now that I live in Denver, and plan on skiing more days/year, does it make sense to go to a boot fitter now, or should I wait until we're a bit in to the season?

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

Residency Evil posted:

I have a pair of boots that I like, but I'm not sure I'm thrilled with, comfort wise. Now that I live in Denver, and plan on skiing more days/year, does it make sense to go to a boot fitter now, or should I wait until we're a bit in to the season?

Go now. You can't really test out boots. good fitters will adjust the boots for you as long as you have them. They will have more selection this time of year as well. Probably call though and see if they have got stock yet as who knows if the supply chain is still all messed up.

Moot .1415926535
Mar 24, 2006

Yep, that's pretty much it.
https://kdvr.com/news/local/man-found-illegally-camping-in-telluride-with-more-than-30-weapons-sheriff-warns-people-to-be-aware/amp/

The last time this happened it was some schizophrenic dude dragging trash into the woods. Now with swords.

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi

spwrozek posted:

Go now. You can't really test out boots. good fitters will adjust the boots for you as long as you have them. They will have more selection this time of year as well. Probably call though and see if they have got stock yet as who knows if the supply chain is still all messed up.

Cool, going now.

I made an appointment at this place: https://www.bootmechanics.com/bookings-checkout/new-boot-fitting?referral=service_list_widget

How important is getting "custom footbeds" as well as boots?

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

Residency Evil posted:

Cool, going now.

I made an appointment at this place: https://www.bootmechanics.com/bookings-checkout/new-boot-fitting?referral=service_list_widget

How important is getting "custom footbeds" as well as boots?

Boot Mech is a good one to go to. I do not recommend the custom foot beds unless you know that stock foot beds cause you issues. You can always add them later once you ride in the boots and break them in.

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi

spwrozek posted:

Boot Mech is a good one to go to. I do not recommend the custom foot beds unless you know that stock foot beds cause you issues. You can always add them later once you ride in the boots and break them in.

Awesome, that's super helpful. Anywhere else you'd go instead? I know Boot Mechanic has been recommended before.

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

Residency Evil posted:

Awesome, that's super helpful. Anywhere else you'd go instead? I know Boot Mechanic has been recommended before.

Nah, go there. I got my last boots at Larry's but honestly not that impressed with them. He just hires a bunch of kids and the experienced people only work on your boots if you come back with issues.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
If you happen to know your feet are dumb for some reason (I, for example, have the flattest feet known to man) I’d recommend getting the custom footbeds right away to save you some time and pain but if you’ve never had issues with your feet before yeah, don’t bother for now.

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

HookShot posted:

If you happen to know your feet are dumb for some reason (I, for example, have the flattest feet known to man) I’d recommend getting the custom footbeds right away to save you some time and pain but if you’ve never had issues with your feet before yeah, don’t bother for now.

If your feet are real dumb it is probably better to get a pediatrist to look at it/make an insole vs some "Cork insert marketing BS" thing from a boot fitter.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

spwrozek posted:

If your feet are real dumb it is probably better to get a pediatrist to look at it/make an insole vs some "Cork insert marketing BS" thing from a boot fitter.

Oh yeah fair my boot fitter is an ex World Cup guy so he does make real ones and not the cork bullshit, but this is an excellent point that I did not think of

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi
My boots are about 7 years old and constantly feel like they're trying to kill my feet. It's probably not worth bringing them to the boot fitters to see if they can make them better, right?

edit: I got the Ikon pass this year and I have a friend coming from out of town to ski (of course) Vail and BC the weekend of (of course) President's day. Is buying a 3/4 day Epic pass the cheapest option for me to ski? Buddy tickets/SWAF tickets aren't any cheaper, right?

Residency Evil fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Aug 26, 2021

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

HookShot posted:

Oh yeah fair my boot fitter is an ex World Cup guy so he does make real ones and not the cork bullshit, but this is an excellent point that I did not think of

I was just making more of a general statement as I am sure there are people out there who know the best thing for feet.


Residency Evil posted:

My boots are about 7 years old and constantly feel like they're trying to kill my feet. It's probably not worth bringing them to the boot fitters to see if they can make them better, right?

edit: I got the Ikon pass this year and I have a friend coming from out of town to ski (of course) Vail and BC the weekend of (of course) President's day. Is buying a 3/4 day Epic pass the cheapest option for me to ski? Buddy tickets/SWAF tickets aren't any cheaper, right?

Those boots I would trash.

So the Epic day pass for 4 days with no black outs is $96/day. Vail/BC SWAF is 25% off the window so around $150/day. They don't have Buddy Pass prices listed yet but it will be around $120/day I would guess.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

spwrozek posted:

I was just making more of a general statement as I am sure there are people out there who know the best thing for feet.

Yeah, for sure, I was totally agreeing with you FWIW, since most people don't go to race specialists for their boot fittings and the lovely cork ones that most places sell are awful. If it came off as me being snarky I apologize :)

And yeah I would trash the boots.

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Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


OTOH the technology available off the shelf is pretty stunning these days.

I went into the fitters and explained my stupid feet (right foot arch half fallen, left foot completely flat due to past injuries/breaks, and with a neuroma at the base of the 4th toe so I can't have a compressed toe box) and they picked a boot (Solomon XPro 120 iirc) that could have not just the lining but the shell heat molded specially. After about 45 minutes of work they were perfect fits. Watching the left shell widen and feeling the pressure starting the neuroma numbness all of the sudden just go away was almost like witchcraft. I've several season in on them now and have never considered getting a custom footbed with these boots.

tl;dr: Always go to the bootfitter.

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