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spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy



Math You posted:

Hi thread,

All of my favourite kit have come from recs in this thread. I require your services once more!

I'm looking for new snowboard boots. I'm currently using like 7 year old Burton imperials. Admittedly probably sub 20 day seasons on average during that span, but they are starting to cause some issues around the ankle strap since I got much stiffer board last season
Fullbag Diamond Blade (THANKS THREAD)

So. I'm looking for new boots. The imperials are the stiffest boot I've ever owned so I probably don't want to go quite HYPER stiff, but definitely on that end. All I do anymore is go fast and carve hard, but comfort is still #1

My local shops sell lots of Thirty two, Deeluxe, K2, Ride, Burton and Vans

Obviously I'm going to select the boot that feels best to me, but I wouldn't mind some help narrowing things down!

TIA

Ignoring the whole get what feels best I have rode a lot of 32 boots and they are probably my favorite boots. Started long ago with the lashed and went on to the TM2 and such. I think they are great boots. I am currently using the deeluxe XV which is Xavier's BC boot. I really like that boot and ride it everywhere right now. I would skip Vans boots but if the others fit they are fine. Just research the boots and flex and such and be well equipped going in.

I have a pair 32 TM2(3?) Jeremey Jones in size 8 that are just a touch too small (foolish me) that I am trying sell if you find that boot works for you and is your size. I put maybe 10 days on them.

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Disinterested
Jun 29, 2011

You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

So let's talk ski racing. First, let's talk world cup circuit. This is some nerd poo poo about world cup skiing, so if you don't like that poo poo save precious minutes by skipping right over this motherfucker.




FIS Ski World Cup 2018/19

Winter is here, and that means so is another world cup season. The first race has already happened in SŲlden, in the Tirol. World cup racing is broken down in to four events: slalom, giant slalom, super g and downhill, as well as an overall 'combined' title based on points across all four.

Tech Events

Slalom, SL

What defines the events in world cup ski racing is the radius of the turn required for the skis and the gate set. Slalom races have the shortest skis, that ski the shortest radius, and the gates are closest together. Along with giant slalom, slalom comprises one of two 'tech' events, as opposed to 'speed' events (super g and downhill). The reigning women's world cup champion in slalom is Mikaela Shiffrin (Vail, USA). The reigning men's world cup slalom champion is Marcel Hirscher (Salzburg, Austria).

The current regulations for slalom skis are:

Minimum length:
155 cm women
165 men

Minimum width under binding:
63 for both.

No minimum radius (expect around 12-15 metres).

Unlike the other events, the slalom gates hinge fully at the bottom, and have no panel on top, allowing you to knock them entirely out of the way:


Reigning olympic champion Frida Hansdotter

Since the radius of the turn required is short, the athletes take a direct down the hill, trying to keep their bodies in a straight line moving down the hill while reaching their legs out to each side of the gates to get around them and sucking their legs up underneath them in between the gates, illustrated perfectly here the time that Marcel Hirscher almost died:



The successful athletes are usually shorter and more agile than the speed people. Since whacking the poles is a huge part of this sport, athletes in SL also wear helmets with face guards, hand guards around their pole handles so they can punch (cross-block) the gates, and shin protection.

Skiing is blessed at the moment to have two of its greatest ever competing in slalom at the moment: both reigning champs, Hirscher and Shiffrin, are the best in these disciplines by far, possibly the best ever. Hirscher, 29, is currently third all-time in Slalom wins (27) and second overall (58 total wins, Stenmark had 40 slalom wins and 86 total wins). Shiffrin (23!) has 43 total wins overall, including 32(!) in slalom already. Already the 5th winningest woman ever.

Hirscher also has a silver medal in slalom and a gold medal in slalom and combined, and has won the slalom overall world cup title 5 times and the combined title 7 times (every year between now and 2012). Shiffrin has a gold medal in slalom and giant slalom and has won the slalom world cup title 5 times (2013-present) and the overall title twice (2017-2018). They often totally humiliate the entire rest of the field, especially Mikaela (Hirscher has a genuine rival in Henrik Kristoffersen, but he always beats him). Here's Mikaela winning by more than two seconds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkPu5fcQ6sU These skiers are also who everyone who teaches skiing or who is trying to ski with technical perfection tries to ski like.

Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cATyi_0MkQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVgV2SMh4Go

Slalom also does parrallel races and night races, including sometimes in cities. It's cool as gently caress:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99jhqkv5ulw

Giant Slalom, GS

Giant slalom along with downhill is what most people imagine when they think of ski racing. See that race course on your local hill? Probably a GS course. Like to rip big wide carve turns down the courduroy? They're probably closer to a GS turn than any other type of race skiing. The technical leap to GS from SL is really big, and even though GS is a 'tech' event, the equipment and demands are at least as similar to speed events as they are to slalom. The current reigning GS champions are Marcel Hirscher and Viktoria Rebensburg (Tegernsee, DEU).

The equipment requirements are as follows:

Minimum length:
195 cm (men)
188 cm (women)

Minimum width:
65 (both)

Minimum radius:
30 m (men)
30 m (women).

With the radius of the turns required a lot larger (30+metres is a long loving ski turn radius, and 30+ metre skis are basically straight pieces of metal that don't want to turn) the athletes can't try to take as straight of a line down the hill. Instead, they try to focus on adjusting their line and technique to minimise the amount they have to skid and 'stivot' the ski and to maximise the amount of time they can spend just constantly accelerating with the ski, and carving cleanly when they turn. These are considerations in the other events but they're biggest in GS.

What the gently caress is a stivot? Since the gates are set closer than the minimum radius of the turn allows, all GS athletes can't do purely carved turns between the gates in a world cup course. When the course gets tight, they will have to redirect the skis above the gate at least a little before the gate while the skis are in the air and unweighted, and then engage the edges once the skis are already steered to hook up and carve out the bottom of the turn. In really pronounced cases it looks like you're rally drifting around the gate. You can see it here really well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEUWDsQ1LLI

This used to be more of an issue a few years ago but they've dialed the radius back down a bit to allow the athletes to carve more of the course, since everyone loving hates using this technique at every gate. Still, the winner of a GS race is usually the person who can minimise skidding time and maximise hurling their body down the hill at the same time.

GS athletes are the most normally dimensioned human beings on the ski racing circuit, usually being slightly taller than average while also a good combination of strong and agile. A lot of dominant speed racing athletes were good to fair GS athletes when they were young and limber before they got too big and clunky for it: Bode Miller, Aksel Lund Svindal and Hermann Maier all have won GS world cup titles, despite being more famous as downhillers.

The GS field is a bit more open for both sexes. Hirscher is still totally dominant in GS for men (he's won every GS title 2015-2018 and has 5 world cup GS titles), but has more rivals in the forms of Alexis Pinturault and Kristoffersen. Ted Ligety of the USA used to be a dominant athlete in the GS field (he holds 5 titles) but has not been competitive for several seasons owing to injuries and unfavorable equipment changes. The current olympic champion is Marcel Hirscher (Ligety, Pintauralt, and Kristofferson all have medals). On the women's side, there's no clear favourites. Rebensburg is the current champ, but the last 4 seasons have had 4 different champions (Rebensburg, Worley, Brem and Fenninger), and the reigning olympic champion is Mikaela Shiffrin, who's improved in the event with every season. Any one of them could win the GS title this season, or someone else!

Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QshNEF4ApmM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl3rEZufSqs

Speed Events

Super G + Downhill (SG and DH)

So, what seperates speed and tech events? Firstly, the equipment at this point becomes preposterous. Nobody would use this equipment to ski recreationally: it's almost impossible to turn and is incredibly heavy and ungainly. The gates are less and less important so long as you don't blow out entirely. Aerodynamics are now a big factor, and so is raw speed, weight, time spent in the air, and, accordingly, balls. These events are much more about racing a whole mountain than racing a course set, with the individual character of each hill coming out way more and certain ones becoming infamous stops. This means you get a different type of athlete. Downhillers are less technical, more brave (or stupid) and much bigger. They're less skiing to ski well and more skiing to survive. The races are long. Speeds range from 70 to up to 100mph, up from the 40's-60's of SL and GS.

Super G equipment requirements call for 205's for women and 210's for men, with a minimum radius of 40 and 45 metres respectively. Downhill calls for 210's for women and 218's for men, with a minimum radius of 50 metres for both, all only 65mm underfoot. These are giant skinny sticks of metal.

What sets the events apart is primarily the length (super G's usually start a little lower down the mountain), and Super G still has gates, though people don't adjust their line nearly as much do them as they do in GS, as well as the equipment.

At such high speeds these races are typically decided by two things: how aerodynamic you can be, and if you're strong and brave enough to risk taking a straighter line at huge speeds and then risk managing the forces that come from putting the skis sideways suddenly at 80 mph. Wherever they can, the racers get in to a tight tuck to minimise drag, and try to keep their chest down to prevent it from windstopping - but it's very hard to turn from that position, so moving between the positions is important and constant. Jumping is also a factor: jumps in downhill races can exceed 100ft in distance, and poor execution can be disastrous:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvOs-_y7RCI

The current world cup champion on the women's side for Super G is Tina Weirather (Liechtensten), who has 2 championships, as does Lara Gut of Switzerland. Lindsey Vonn (also of Vail, USA) has 5 super G titles. The current olympic champion is Ester Ledecka, who famously is primarily a snowboard racer but won gold from a lovely start order on borrowed skis and then didn't really believe it when it happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW-IG7Uf7bY. The people on the podium expected the race to be already over. She also won a snowboarding gold. Admittedly the wind being so high and the equipment she was able to borrow played a huge factor, but it's still both good and hilarious.

As for Downhill, Sofia Goggia (Bergamo, ITA) is the reigning DH champ, though she's going to miss the start of the season through injury. However, Lindsey Vonn has 8 DH world cup titles, 43 DH race wins to add to her 28 SG wins, and won 6 DH titles in a row 2008-2013, last winning in 2016. She has, since then, been beset by injuries, but fully fit massively outclasses the entire field both technically and especially physically (the women's field is generally quite small and Lindsey Vonn is a is physically gifted and also happens to be 5'11 and 160 lbs, which is tall and heavy for the field where the current champion is 5'7 and 147lbs, and where strength and weight are an advantage). Vonn is the second winningest champion of either sex ever, and will be attempting to break Ingemar Stenmark's win record this season before she retires. She has 82 wins. She needs 86. She's injured as gently caress and 34 years old. It's going to be really tight for her to pull out the record this season before she's done, but it's possible if she can avoid injuries. Goggia is a good friend of hers, and the reigning olympic champion and next best, but nobody in the women's speed events is close to Lindsey Vonn's old level. We're waiting for a new generation of superstars to develop here.

Also of note is child prodigy Mikaela Shiffrin has won races in all 4 disciplines, and is getting better in speed every year. She already wins enough tech events to win the overall combined title, but watch this space on if she can become a regular podium finisher in speed.

The current men's world cup champion in SG is Kjetil Jansrud (Stavanger, NOR), who holds 4 titles, including 3 of the last 2 and has 11 SG wins and 8 DH wins. He's the current dominant performer, though the field is competitive. The olympic champion is Matthias Mayer. At this point Super G belongs to Norweigian athletes, who have won every world cup season in it since 2012, and 9 since 2006. Aksel Lund Svindal(LÝrenskog, NOR) has 5 of those titles and 16 super G wins, and is an all time great speed athlete, the last of the great generation of speed racers he grew up with (along with Bode Miller, Didier Cuche, Hannes Reichelt and Michael Walchofer) to still be racing at age 35. He's primarily a Downhiller these days though, but would be a real combined championship contender if he could remain uninjured.

The current DH world cup champion is Beat Feuz (Schangnau, SUI), with the other recent holders as Peter Fill, Jansrud and Aksel Lund Svindal. Aksel Lund Svindal is also the current olympic champ. We're basically watching Svindal and Jansrud, who are at the tail end of their careers, clean up the speed field while new stars try to break through. Svindal is the best downhiller on the circuit when he's fit, but when he's out the field is open among a few guys who don't really have all-star potential. There isn't really a great up and coming young speed field for guys right now, just the olds trying to squeeze a last few out.

Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBdC_apzo54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ_Mivy4Fc8

By the way, in case any of you think I'm over emphasising the importance of body types in these events:

Marcel Hirscher is in the middle. Aksel Lund Svindal is on the left.

Overall/Combined/Super Combi

FIS hands out a combined title to the winningest athlete across the four disciplines every season. Hirscher has won every year, seven total, since 2011-12. Shiffrin has won the last 2, and Vonn has 4, with Fenninger on 2, and Gut and Maze on 1. Shiffrin essentially have the overall titles on lockdown because they control the tech disciplines, and Shiffrin is a little competitive in speed as well. Historically these titles have generally been won by tech athletes because of lower injury risk and bigger skill elements involved in the victories (they had to change the rules in the 70's because Stenmark won every slalom and it made it impossible for anyone else to win).

There are also super combined events where in one day the athletes will run a speed event and a slalom and get an overall time. Sometimes a good all rounder can win, sometimes a specialist can scratch enough time out in one event and hold on in the other. The current men's gold medalist in combined is Hirscher, who won it on slalom times, but there's a truly great French skier, Alexis Pinturault, who is close on his heels as a good all rounder. Bode Miller and Ted Ligety have won olympic golds in this too, with Bode beating Svindal in Vancouver, whose ponderous rear end can't slalom to save his loving life.

The reigning womens combined olympic champ is Michelle Gisin of Switzerland, but Shiffrin got silver in Pyeongchang and was probably unlucky not to get the gold after an uncharacteristic mistake in slalom. Vonn has never got close to this title, probably on account of sucking at tech events.

2018/19 Season

The season got underway this weekend in SŲlden. The women raced GS, and the men got snowed off and couldn't run. Tessa Worley (FRA) won, with Federica Brignone (ITA) in second and Shiffrin in third. The next event will be slalom in Levi in Finland on the 17th and 18th, where the winning racer wins a Reindeer and gets to name it. Shiffrin and Hirscher have named several.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/16/sport/alpine-skiing-world-cup-slalom-levi-finland-reindeer/index.html

TL:DR Watch racing it owns.

Disinterested fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Oct 28, 2018

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005



That racing post owns.

Also, the funnest event to watch from a spectator's perspective is definitely the combined events, because there is nothing funnier than watching downhillers absolutely fail at skiing slalom.

HookShot fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Oct 29, 2018

Disinterested
Jun 29, 2011

You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

HookShot posted:

Also, the funnest event to watch from a spectator's perspective is definitely the combined events, because there is nothing funnier than watching downhillers absolutely fail at skiing slalom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z1iTWfzhqY#t=395s

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005



I love the huge number of desperation pole plants he makes here. Like, most races, good slalom skiers will make zero or one, there's like four turns in a row where Bode's just like "fuuuuuuck a hard plant is the only way I'm gonna make this next turn" ahahaha.

highme
May 25, 2001


I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!




If I had to choose a single skiing or snowboarding competition to watch for the rest of my life it would be downhill. That poo poo is living.

Disinterested
Jun 29, 2011

You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

HookShot posted:

I love the huge number of desperation pole plants he makes here. Like, most races, good slalom skiers will make zero or one, there's like four turns in a row where Bode's just like "fuuuuuuck a hard plant is the only way I'm gonna make this next turn" ahahaha.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqTJ1PPlZ9c#t=73s

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005




One of the long-named Norwegians (maybe Leif Christian Nestvold-Haugen?) actually has the best pole plant of anyone on WC right now in slalom. I'll try and find a video in the morning.

Also I should mention that the best ski racing instagram is @slalomtokyodrift which is mainly a crash account. I have been featured once, back in 2014, and it was the crowning glory of my ski racing career so far. Henrik Kristoffersen blocked them the other day for commenting "the official gloves of coming in second place" on a Reusch giveaway post LOL.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004



Great racing post! I've been wondering about those GS turns, I thought they were supposed to carve all the way.

McStephenson
Jun 16, 2008

reading The Internet

Super excited for this year! Getting my doctorate up in Utah means I got a season pass at Alta with 6 days in other area resorts for ~$600! Hell yeah student pricing.

My wife somehow got away with 100 for a 50% all tickets all season at Alta too! That plus new gear we bought at the end of the season last year means Iím hoping itíll be a good snow year!


...are we ever going to get good snow years anymore, I grew up in Texas and donít know whatís good or bad

bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

Plague Champion


McStephenson posted:

...are we ever going to get good snow years anymore, I grew up in Texas and donít know whatís good or bad
climate change means in the near term we'll get more volatility of snowfall and more mid-winter rain events

so, maybe?

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005



Ola posted:

Great racing post! I've been wondering about those GS turns, I thought they were supposed to carve all the way.

Yeah, carving all the way is the best, but not always possible. This is one of the best examples of the difference between the best in the world and literally everyone else: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zJtCeCFhYs

Skip forward to about the halfway mark and watch a few in the top 15-ish in the world. Then skip to the end and watch Hirscher. He's the only one with the technique to carve almost every turn on one of the toughest hills in the WC circuit.

Disinterested
Jun 29, 2011

You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

It's pretty absurd how much better Hirscher and Shiffrin are than the field. Albeit Kristoffersen is good.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005



Poor Kristoffersen would be one of the all-time greats in all likelihood if it wasn't for the fact that he came up against Hirscher in his prime.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004



He's still very young, albeit only 5 years younger than Hirscher. He's going to have some time to rule alone. But I think the recent setbacks has taken a toll on him. He thought he was number 1 already, then he earned the ire of Austria by shouting "kiss my rear end" in Schladming, got excluded from the national team for a while for being a dick and sued the national ski association for the right to wear a $$$ Red Bull logo on his helmet, case still pending. He could learn a thing or two from Svindal. Be a nice guy, help your team mates, brag about your competitors, you will be well liked and your head will be in a better place. (Svindal's head happens to be inside a helmet with a Red Bull logo, which is part of the story).

HookShot posted:

He's the only one with the technique to carve almost every turn on one of the toughest hills in the WC circuit.

Good example! It also looks like he's much better at absorbing the bumps, not letting them upset his line. Henrik too does a very clean carve, but with more small mistakes and less je-ne-sais-WTF.

Disinterested
Jun 29, 2011

You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

Svindal is the poo poo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cty1l9kWAOc

Also a pretty good all round skier.

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

Kristofferson was training up at Saas-Fee when I was there the other week. Also its super weird, I would suddenly realise I was sharing a T-bar with e.g. some team USA slopestyle woman but no idea who they would be. The standard of skiing up there is incredible.

Anyway I have had my op and they've strapped me into the torture machine

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005



Ola posted:

He's still very young, albeit only 5 years younger than Hirscher. He's going to have some time to rule alone. But I think the recent setbacks has taken a toll on him. He thought he was number 1 already, then he earned the ire of Austria by shouting "kiss my rear end" in Schladming, got excluded from the national team for a while for being a dick and sued the national ski association for the right to wear a $$$ Red Bull logo on his helmet, case still pending. He could learn a thing or two from Svindal. Be a nice guy, help your team mates, brag about your competitors, you will be well liked and your head will be in a better place. (Svindal's head happens to be inside a helmet with a Red Bull logo, which is part of the story).


Good example! It also looks like he's much better at absorbing the bumps, not letting them upset his line. Henrik too does a very clean carve, but with more small mistakes and less je-ne-sais-WTF.

I also think this last year really broke him, mentally, since Hirscher did literally two days of on-snow training before breaking his ankle in August, and so I think everyone kind of expected him to not be quite at his peak since the entire rest of the field trained all summer and Hirscher didnít, then comes out and destroys everyone at basically every single event and Kristofferson especially didnít handle that well at all.

He had a full on tantrum in the finish area when Hirscher beat him at one point then had to apologize.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004



Henrik is known to be very skinny for an alpine skier. In this, ahem, documentary aired during the olympics, we see Henrik attend a fat camp to try to build some bulk. It's in Norwegian but I think no translation is necessary. Starts around 4:45

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO7jVswV9dY

Ola fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Oct 31, 2018

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003



Hey guys quick question, I'm going to be in Munich in late January and I'm looking at Garmisch-Partenkirchen.

But I also notice there are about a billion resorts near Munich.

Has anyone been to this area and if so what would be the best place to go? Two couples, looking for a quick day trip by train, girls are beginners. Ski then get drunk in the best setting and either train ride back to Munich or stay in a fairly cheap place that night.

Any ideas? Looking for memorable alpine views, emphasis on Alp.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004



Before there's snow to ski on, I guess this thread might as well be posting skiing stars also not skiing. Here's Shiffrin cleaning her toilet:

https://twitter.com/uninterrupted/status/1057727878102577152

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy



Skiing already happening in CO sooooo yeah I am going to pass on toilet cleaning videos.

*PUNCH*
Jul 8, 2007
naked on the internet


the dusting of snow that showed up on Crystal's mountain cams got rained out by like noon instead of 10AM like it did two days ago, so basically I'm feeling pretty optimistic about the season here in the PNW.

I'm loving this race chat by the way. My career extended to painting my helmet red and blue one gate at a time at Wachusett back in high school, so it's cool to have some actual insight into this stuff!

*PUNCH* fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Nov 1, 2018

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




davebo posted:

It's my last Winter before having a kid in May. Hope we get some snow and I can actually travel somewhere this year.

Edit: also whiskeymilitia.com got merged into steepandcheap so you can delete that.

Steep and Cheap is in turn run by backcountry.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005

#JusticeForBreonnaTaylor
#BlackLivesMatter
#StillIRise
#Blessed




S&C owns. I have all sorts of assorted stuff Iíve got there for dirt cheap.

davebo
Nov 15, 2006

Parallel lines do meet, but they do it incognito

College Slice

big crush on Chad OMG posted:

S&C owns. I have all sorts of assorted stuff Iíve got there for dirt cheap.

Just today I received boxer briefs with a grizzly bear on them so I'm pretty much the coolest now.

*PUNCH*
Jul 8, 2007
naked on the internet


The "places to buy stuff" section in the OP should probably include Corbett's (https://www.corbetts.com mostly useful for Americans, they had some ridiculous deals over the summer, haven't looked at what's on right this second) and also just link to the TGR thread for Sierra Trading Post deals.

Brought to mind because whenever I've seen a S&C discount I've been able to find something 5% deeper somewhere else.

Crystal is bare this morning. The soaked soul cries out; the heavens darken; and yet nought falls but rain, endless rain. O great Tahoma, mock not this flesh and blood but grant us mercy!

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005



*PUNCH* posted:

The "places to buy stuff" section in the OP should probably include Corbett's (https://www.corbetts.com mostly useful for Americans, they had some ridiculous deals over the summer, haven't looked at what's on right this second) and also just link to the TGR thread for Sierra Trading Post deals.

Brought to mind because whenever I've seen a S&C discount I've been able to find something 5% deeper somewhere else.

Crystal is bare this morning. The soaked soul cries out; the heavens darken; and yet nought falls but rain, endless rain. O great Tahoma, mock not this flesh and blood but grant us mercy!

The PNW is going to have a terrible year. This feels exactly like that awful year a couple of years ago; I've been saying it since August. Rime can back me up on that.

Eejit
Mar 6, 2007

Swiss Army Cockatoo
Cacatua multitoolii



I have zero loving clue what it's going to be like in CO this year. Buuut I'm dropping my skis off for an edge tune tomorrow to play it on the safe side

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL


opensnow says rockies in PNW and northern CO are getting like 1-2 feet by the 9th

Fifty Three
Oct 29, 2007



I wonder what kind of year western PA is gonna ha- ahahahahah

I may not even bother renting skis for the season this year.

Fifty Three fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Nov 1, 2018

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005



Razzled posted:

opensnow says rockies in PNW and northern CO are getting like 1-2 feet by the 9th

If you're far enough east that you're in the rockies, you're not in a region with "Pacific" in the name anymore

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo BRAINS


Fifty Three posted:

I wonder what kind of year western PA is gonna ha- ahahahahah

I may not even bother renting skis for the season this year.

I remember the first time I went back to Seven Springs after skiing out west.

I haven't been back to Seven Springs.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005

#JusticeForBreonnaTaylor
#BlackLivesMatter
#StillIRise
#Blessed




Razzled posted:

opensnow says rockies in PNW and northern CO are getting like 1-2 feet by the 9th

Yessssss

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005




This is totally unrelated but I feel like I need to know the story behind your av.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005

#JusticeForBreonnaTaylor
#BlackLivesMatter
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HookShot posted:

This is totally unrelated but I feel like I need to know the story behind your av.

The short answer is never post in the F1 thread

The slightly longer answer is someone is a nonstick/Teflon fanboy and does not respect the sanctity of good cast iron cookware

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005



big crush on Chad OMG posted:

The short answer is never post in the F1 thread

The slightly longer answer is someone is a nonstick/Teflon fanboy and does not respect the sanctity of good cast iron cookware

Hahahahaha awesome

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:

The short answer is never post in the F1 thread

The slightly longer answer is someone is a nonstick/Teflon fanboy and does not respect the sanctity of good cast iron cookware

lmao

That person is dumb. Cast iron cookware is amazing. I scavenged my cast iron pan after my grandfather died (I assume it was from one of my grandmothers (my first nana died when he was ~60 and he got remarried until grandma #2 died ~20 years later)) and I believe it's a Birmingham from the early 50s. I was extremely sad when I ruined the seasoning that was on it and had to redo it, but such is life.

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy



HookShot posted:

If you're far enough east that you're in the rockies, you're not in a region with "Pacific" in the name anymore

Also you get to ski drier, fluffier, and all around better snow so yes lets keep the Canadian rockies as the powder highway and the PNW as concrete powder fun time. no combining them or the snow may suck in the rockies.

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HookShot
Dec 26, 2005



spwrozek posted:

Also you get to ski drier, fluffier, and all around better snow so yes lets keep the Canadian rockies as the powder highway and the PNW as concrete powder fun time. no combining them or the snow may suck in the rockies.

Yeah, they're such inherently different types of snow that you really can't combine them.

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