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spwrozek posted:^pretty much 2020 is indeed weird as poo poo I heard Bruce Tremper talk recently and he said there’s recent Swiss research showing the concave/convex thing (which he put in his books for years) is basically bunk and slope angle is all that matters. If anything concavities just mean a place for debris to build up was his take. I don’t have enough experience to doubt your own read of your terrain, but that was definitely interesting for me to hear after having the dangers of convexities emphasized so often.
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I wish I could find the research paper he was referencing. The first of your points I think is a given but it seemed like it was the second one he was disputing. But without the paper or a better recall of what he said I’ll leave it there, don’t want to mischaracterize his point or inadvertently introduce any bad info here.
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spwrozek posted:If you find it post it up. Very interested. Emailed Tremper and got the paper. It’s from 2013, older than I thought. They analyzed slope angle, curvature and roughness of 142 human-triggered avalanche starting zones. What Tremper was pointing out in the talk I heard is basically captured in Fig. 5, which shows many more avalanches occurring from flat or concave starting points than convex. But, as the authors point out, these are data from human-triggered avalanches, so this might be colored by where people are going. https://arc.lib.montana.edu/snow-science/objects/ISSW13_paper_O5-05.pdf And then finally, which goes to your point and others’, Tremper in his email wrote: quote:Yes, slope shape is very important for other reasons, such as consequences, how to travel in that terrain and the predictability of where the crown fracture of the slab will occur.
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spwrozek posted:Awesome. Thank dude. Very much me too.
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Has anyone here tried the DPS permanent wax? Or waxless treatment I guess. Reviews seem fine for average use and I can see the benefits, but I’ve been feeling stuck in my ways
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bawfuls posted:I will probably consider the DPS thing the next time I get new skis but it's harder to justify on something half way through it's lifespan already That was part of my calculus this season too. Good to know it’s decent. Next pair then.
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gently caress Vail, Marry El Niño, Kill Your Base (sorry if the joke has been done, I’m new.) White Mountains report: 6-8 inches heavy powder on a base of wet grass, rocks and sticks. Snowed last night on mostly bare ground so I went out for a few laps pretty much out of desperation. First time out this season. Turns were fun if heavy, and the cover was mostly adequate, but I did get a couple gouges under one foot stopping hard for some snowshoers. I was eying new skis anyway, and these ones are pretty perfect to be relegated to rock ski duty. e: I tried to post a picture but I cannot figure out awful app tonight ought ten fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Jan 3, 2021 |
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I’m idiotically obsessed with spending as little as possible on the skis themselves, gear, whatever, but the one thing I’m happy to pay for is boots, at a brick and mortar with a proper fitting. Warm, comfortable boots really make a massive difference in my ability to enjoy skiing and feel like I’m good at it.
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Jan 4, 2021 18:41
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Snowboarder dead near Park City in an avalanche on Friday. Sounds like he left from the resort.UT Avalanche Center posted:Details are limited, and we will continue to update as we learn more. A 31-year-old male snowboarder from Clinton, Utah was killed in an avalanche in Dutch Draw off of Silver Peak. This is located on the Park City Ridgeline and was likely accessed by riding the 9990' chairlift and accessing the area via the backcountry exit gate. He was not carrying any avalanche rescue gear. The rider’s girlfriend reported the rider had tried to snowboard down the steep backcountry terrain when the avalanche began and caught him. Preliminary report is gnarly, it took them a while to find his body and get it out, but click the IG link and check out what he was on top of. Yikes. https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ2BjJDhckM/?igshid=1wh3p1g86vzoj
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Jan 10, 2021 16:36
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Eejit posted:Those basal facets are also literally everywhere in CO as well. They are very crunchy if you eat them That sucks. I mean I guess I’d take it over zero snow in the east but that can’t be fun knowing it’s down there.
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Jan 10, 2021 20:10
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You basically need to hit terminal velocity to have any hope of making it back to the lodge from the bottom of those trails haha. Good for you for surviving. When the snow is good those trails are amazing but steep ice definitely predominates in my experience.
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Yuns posted:I just need to vent. My kids were invited on a ski trip out of state. We came up with a plan to comply with that states quarantine and our own states quarantine. When we told the other family that we would be coming but also complying with quarantine, we were disinvited. These aren't random idiots; these are educated NYers. Which Vermont resort were you headed to? https://twitter.com/outofpodcast/status/1350456260668362755?s=21 Seriously that sucks though. Good for you for trying to keep people safe.
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Jan 16, 2021 21:53
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Suicide Watch posted:This was the Silver Peak/Billy's Peak area near the Bradley Hut (which was closed) My first ski tour was to Peter Grubb Hut. Caught the AT bug hard after that. Fortunately did not catch hantavirus.
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Jan 17, 2021 19:02
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Anyone have strong feelings for or against cutting new skins for new skis? The skins I cut for my old pair fit decently on the new ones. The gap to the edge is 1-2 mm wider than I’d like, especially underfoot, but I can’t imagine it’s going to make a huge amount of difference especially with the mellow touring I do right now. Am I going to regret this? Test driving the set up tomorrow so maybe I’ll answer my own question.Cabbages and Kings posted:I'm taking at least half the day off work tomorrow. My replacement phone with a better camera AND A SKI LANYARD to keep it fastened even when "safe in my pocket" is also on its way. This is so cool. MRG was the first place I ever skied. Can’t really say I learned to ski there, we left VT before I was 4. But my parents would carry me up the little slope by the lodge near the base of the race hill and I’d slide down between their legs. I did spend a lot of time in the cricket club. Does that still exist? Enjoy tomorrow.
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Jan 21, 2021 17:57
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Partial Octopus posted:Yeah don't be an idiot like me and try to ski down a sidehill slope with your edges covered. Look, if you’re not falling you’re not pushing yourself. Thanks both. Might need a little trim near the front but I think I should be good to go
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Jan 21, 2021 19:17
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Cabbages and Kings posted:It does! I didn't really look into it this year because of COVID concerns but it's on my list of potentially useful things for the next few years (we have another kiddo on the way soon). Nice. Foggy over here in Maine today too. No pictures but conditions sound about the same. First day on new skis so after one scrape-y scratchy run in the trees I stuck to man made snow. One more good storm would put us in good shape I think. I heard sugarbush just got a ton of snow though? Found out when I got there there was a tele demo day going on. I’d had my fill of the few runs that were open so I tried that out for the first time. I was surprised I could make it down the hill on them okay, but it was very obvious how far off even bare proficiency was.
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Jan 23, 2021 01:43
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Yuns posted:I know it's nothing like what others are getting but it looks like we might get 15"-19" in this northeastern storm. I’m already taking tomorrow morning off to ski, trying to figure if I can swing Wednesday too
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Jan 31, 2021 20:59
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spwrozek posted:Today was a good one. My girlfriend refusing not not take videos unless they are tallwise. Even when I ask. It is a mystery.... enjoy these odd videos. Those are some beautiful looking turns. Is it too sketchy for the stuff above you? I figure yes based on what you’ve said but man that looks tempting.
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Feb 1, 2021 01:21
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Yikes, sounds like a few people might be dead in an avalanche in SW Colorado. CO Avalanche Center posted:
https://avalanche.state.co.us/caic/acc/acc_report.php?accfm=rep&acc_id=770&view=public Eejit posted:Eat at Pho Bay or Pho 20. Pazzo's is also ok. Both Edwards and Minturn have good food, too. I'm especially a fan of Kirby Cosmo's in Minturn if you like BBQ. If that beer hall place in Edwards has survived 2020 I'd hang out there for sure. Also the tacos at Vail Brewing Co are legit, although slightly gringo. This is the skiing beta people really need
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Feb 2, 2021 18:31
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Moot .1415926535 posted:yeah one of those “gently caress what were they thinking...hope it’s nobody I knew” moments I’m not passing any judgement before seeing the full accident report (and even then like who the hell am I?), but it does strike me that in any risky situation, making safe decisions gets more difficult when you’re in a large group. Photos make it seem like there were maybe seven or so skiers total.
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Feb 3, 2021 18:33
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Mongoose posted:The Natural Selection contest is on right now, streaming at https://www.redbull.com/us-en/live/natural-selection-tour-2021-jackson-hole-day-one. This is a bloodbath
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Feb 4, 2021 19:20
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spwrozek posted:I mean they are basically rolling in blind to 50-70' jumps in deep rear end powder. Oh absolutely. It only speaks to the difficulty of the course and conditions that these riders are wiping out. I did not intend to imply anything about their skill
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Yuns posted:Friends of CAIC had an update on the recovery operation for the 3 buried skiers at Ophir Pass. They have the bodies out after digging them out of 20+ feet of avalanche debris. They all had beacons but buried so deep it would have been incredibly challenging to get them out in time considering that probe can be 2.4m to 3m combined with shoveling out 20 feet of snow. That’s awful. Just adding to how dangerous terrain traps can be, solo skier died e: and that was before the storm, avalanche danger was rated low ought ten fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Feb 4, 2021 |
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The deaths season are making me seriously rethink my interest and objectives in the backcountry. Glad I’m taking my level 1 soon but I think I’m going to dial down my expectations for progressing into more consequential terrain. I did get a nice peak at some of that terrain on Sunday morning. 
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You did a good job putting it into words. I’m not planning to stop skiing in the backcountry. But a steady diet of Instagram and YouTube make it easy to picture yourself up in one of the chutes in Tuckerman ravine or sniffing out some secret rad stashes. Seeing experienced skiers get caught and killed has me thinking about how long it will take me to build up the experience and knowledge that will let me do those things with a big margin of safety. Sticking to low angle, low consequence terrain while I develop. And there probably is some skiing that’s just out of the question for me, maybe ever, in terms of my risk tolerance.
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Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:Where’s that hat from? Custom hats for a wedding. Hence the hat being front and center and the mountains blurry. I think the unicorn was stock art from the website? So either we're friends IRL or it's been used elsewhere. Or it just looks like a lot of web comics.
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Natural Selection final happening at 11:30 ET: https://redbull.com/us-en/events/natural-selection-tour
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casque posted:Sorry bro, you haven't actually had fun. It’s the unspoken curse of skiing. No one has ever had a fun day. It’s always too cold/hot/icy/slushy/scary/mellow. Everyday sucks. But the next day, that one will finally be fun.
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OSU_Matthew posted:Stupid newbie looking for gear advice here If your feet are too big for rental boots then you might not be able to find rental skis with bindings big enough for you, so you’re probably on the right track getting the whole kit and kaboodle. But you should check first because this poo poo’s expensive and I’d guess renting is worth it if you’re just doing it a few times a year or seeing if you like it. In terms of boot and binding compatibility, that wasn’t really an issue until recently with the rise of gripwalk soles (and AT soles). AFAIK most bindings made in the last few years are made to work with gripwalk soles and traditional alpine soles. If you really have monster feet you might think about going to a ski shop and getting a proper fitting. They might also have some used boots, skis, bindings if they have a rental or buyback program. Used boots can usually be molded again for your feet. And a shop can recommend ski length, width, type for what you’re trying to do. Evo and the house are good choices for cheap decent kit. If you have a sense of what you want in terms of width and length you can also go for the used market. Plenty of people selling lightly used skis+bindings because they need the new hotness. vvv Right, meant skis/bindings only ought ten fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Feb 12, 2021 |
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We have 20” forecast over the next week here in the whites 
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HookShot posted:Another person died yesterday in the backcountry outside Whistler. Two in two days. It’s not funny, but it is kinda funny to read “poop chute” in news stories.
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kalvanoo posted:is this the touring thread too? What’s up east coast touring buddy? I ski Radical 2s. Very much prefer the flippy risers to the skinny system. And heavier obviously but the extra weight is worth the safety features to me. Can’t beat the price of Turn 2s though.
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Spime Wrangler posted:Awesome day yesterday! sprowzek and lady and dog were excellent guides, and we had fantastic conditions both weather and snow. That’s a perfect clip, I can’t stop watching it
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Double post, just saw (on tik tok of all places) another skier dead near Loveland Pass. And a snowmobiler separately. So we’ve passed last year’s total. E: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeLNHuXy/ ought ten fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Feb 15, 2021 |
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spwrozek posted:Saw that last night. I just don't get the risk analysis of some people. So much good terrain that is so chill. Very sad. Agreed. The pictures of the slide look like it went down to the rocks in places, and on CalTopo that slope seems to be high 30s or 40s.
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kalvanoo posted:born from ice bud I’m not fully versed in all the binding differences, but what I understand is that in addition to brakes they have a spring tensioned heel and the toe pivots, so they’re din certified. You get a little more boot movement before release, a more reliable release when the skis flex, plus lateral release.
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Master_Odin posted:Governor of VT announced today that you no longer need to quarantine for two weeks on entering the state if you've been vaccinated. Wonder if that'll bring more people to my mountain. My sister (vaccinated) booked a house at Stowe today. So I’m guessing yes.
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Moot .1415926535 posted:I need to figure out how much to sell my AT ski setup for because I want a carbon splitboard. Cochise 178cm, marker kingpins, BD skins. Excellent condition. Any thoughts? It’s a sellers market so start high. $1400?
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Moot .1415926535 posted:just gonna chime in here and say do snowboarding instead This is a lie. You stand sideways.
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IncredibleIgloo posted:I have the permanent wax solution, Phantom DPS, on two pairs of my skis and it is nice never needing to think about waxing them. The stuff works really well, too. But is expensive, 150 for the shop in Portland to apply it. Same and same. My shop’s website listed it as $90 but they don’t tell you it’s $60 more to put it on. And they’re the only ones with the equipment to put it in. For a minute I was wondering if same shop but then I realized other Portland. Pissed me off but I’m glad to not have to worry about it and help the planet a little.
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