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Queen Combat posted:Counterpoint Sabrina is great and Riverdale is complete trash.
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Whoa whoa, I love trash shows. I mean, I watch Doctor Who (the greatest aspect of which is that cosplaying/costuming as a Doctor Who character is easy because you have the same budget and materials as their special effects department), so I'm not off the hook. Riverdale is just bad bad, not MST3K bad.
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Nov 4, 2018 23:43
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Riverdale is great and beautiful. Not a single witch in Greendale measures up to Cheryl Blossom.
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Nov 5, 2018 00:57
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The plot of episode 7 is so ridiculous and every moment is a treasure.
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Nov 5, 2018 03:24
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Queen Combat posted:Counterpoint Sabrina is great and Riverdale is complete trash. Counter counter point, you're trash and so's your face.
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Nov 5, 2018 03:31
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Skwirl posted:Counter counter point, you're trash and so's your face. Queen Combat posted:I watch Doctor Who I mean, yeah. Checks out.
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Nov 5, 2018 03:46
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Guys guys, can't we just...come together and enjoy the cannibalism and ultraviolence?
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Nov 5, 2018 03:54
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The soundtrack is a little too obvious, but then again, there's just so many good songs about witches.
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Nov 5, 2018 04:16
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I tried a couple episodes of this on a lark and I'm not sure if it's good or bad or so bad it's good
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Nov 5, 2018 05:23
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Straight White Shark posted:I tried a couple episodes of this on a lark and I'm not sure if it's good or bad or so bad it's good It's legit good, but if you don't like it don't watch it.
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Nov 5, 2018 05:28
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Straight White Shark posted:I tried a couple episodes of this on a lark and I'm not sure if it's good or bad or so bad it's good
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Nov 5, 2018 05:32
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I hope it ends up with a love triangle between Sabrina, Satan and Cthulhu.
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Nov 5, 2018 05:35
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This show could really do with some shades of grey.
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Nov 5, 2018 14:18
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Straight White Shark posted:I tried a couple episodes of this on a lark and I'm not sure if it's good or bad or so bad it's good If you like it, it's good. Media doesn't have an inherent quality 
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Nov 5, 2018 16:20
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Skwirl posted:I still don't get why Zelda didn't just lie and say the boy was the first born, like Blackwood is a dick but if his daughter is not a threat to his weird patriarchy thing he will absolutely protect her with every fiber of his being as a point of pride. it's because it's the lie she tells herself to make it okay, the real reason she kidnapped Blackwood's daughter is because she's obsessively in love with him
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Nov 5, 2018 16:34
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Riverdale season 1 is a legit good miniseries. Season 2 stumbled in a lot of places so I'm hoping season 3 has a good rebound.
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Nov 5, 2018 18:39
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Lurdiak posted:This show could really do with some shades of grey. Yeah, cannibalistic loving aunt who worships Satan but still tries to protect the mortals in town because it's right is very black and white. What show are you watching?
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Nov 5, 2018 18:48
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Show is a real surprise and subverted all my expectations. I came into this thinking it was a comedy since it was a remake. I can get behind Sally Draper playing Melissa Joan Hart. So I loved that first bit with Father Blackwell's reassurances to Sabrina so you know, the dark lord stuff is really just going to be a metaphor for dealing with society's expectations or a comment about traditional religions. Harvey and Sabrina are so sweet and innocent so they're probably going to be spending the season fighting for women's causes. Easy stuff Even during the dark baptism with the half naked witches and the guys with the animal heads in the background I was still like wow guys this is devil stuff is pretty cheesy. I mean, come on. A couple of hours later, I've just finished watching Blackwell and the witches tear apart and eat one of their own. and there's still three more episodes to go.
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Nov 5, 2018 21:53
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:Yeah, cannibalistic loving aunt who worships Satan but still tries to protect the mortals in town because it's right is very black and white. That's not what I mean. Despite all the "hail satan" of the show, who's in the wrong and who's in the right in any given conflict is always very black and white. There's the baddies who are 100% wrong, there's the people who are well meaning but still wrong, and there's the goodies who are 100% right. And I get that this is just how shows targeting these demographics tend to be, but it somewhat undercuts the insane satanic stuff for me (and Sabrina's struggle to reconcile her witch and mortal lives) that there's such clearly defined lines. Aunt Zelda's religious fundamentalism is treated no differently than if she was a christian fundie on a less fantastical show. She's a good person but she's Wrong, and whenever she does something legit good it's by going against those beliefs.
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Nov 6, 2018 06:39
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SardonicTyrant posted:It's a Chick Tract about the dangers of Satanism, so yes. this guy gets it it's clearly not an actual Chick Tract though or else when the lawyer pulled out the Catholic baptism certificate the satanic priest would have been "see, now she is doubly pledged to our lord and master Satan"
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Nov 6, 2018 06:45
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Lurdiak posted:That's not what I mean. Despite all the "hail satan" of the show, who's in the wrong and who's in the right in any given conflict is always very black and white. There's the baddies who are 100% wrong, there's the people who are well meaning but still wrong, and there's the goodies who are 100% right. And I get that this is just how shows targeting these demographics tend to be, but it somewhat undercuts the insane satanic stuff for me (and Sabrina's struggle to reconcile her witch and mortal lives) that there's such clearly defined lines. There's the episode where Sabrina tries to rules lawyer Necromancy and it all goes horribly, horribly wrong. That's pretty grey.
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Nov 6, 2018 07:11
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Lurdiak posted:That's not what I mean. Despite all the "hail satan" of the show, who's in the wrong and who's in the right in any given conflict is always very black and white. There's the baddies who are 100% wrong, there's the people who are well meaning but still wrong, and there's the goodies who are 100% right. And I get that this is just how shows targeting these demographics tend to be, but it somewhat undercuts the insane satanic stuff for me (and Sabrina's struggle to reconcile her witch and mortal lives) that there's such clearly defined lines. Have you finished the show? Because basically everything you're talking about gets addressed.
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Nov 6, 2018 07:21
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:Have you finished the show? Because basically everything you're talking about gets addressed. Nah I haven't quite finished it yet. That's neat if it does get addressed.
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Nov 6, 2018 07:25
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Lurdiak posted:Nah I haven't quite finished it yet. That's neat if it does get addressed. Yeah it gets a bit grey when (spoiler for episode 8)Sabrina slits the throat of a fellow 16 year old
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Nov 6, 2018 07:30
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Lurdiak posted:Nah I haven't quite finished it yet. That's neat if it does get addressed. By the end, everyone has done bad and good poo poo, you get a good amount of "I told you so", and Sabrina starts becoming almost unbearable in her selfish stupidity.
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Nov 6, 2018 07:33
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Just got done watching this last night. Jeff from Coupling is a surprisingly good Father Blackwood, although I did keep expecting him to go off on a weird tangent about the Giggle Loop or the Melty Man. Sue White is perfect as Mrs Satan, and it's now canon in my head that they're the same character. It would explain a lot of the weirder stuff in Green Wing. Cool show.
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Nov 6, 2018 14:31
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Anyone else thinking part two is going to have Sabrina as more of an antihero/stuck up succubitch and her mortal friends as the actual goodies? Harvey, Suzie, and Roz were all really cool but ended up... not doing much this first season. Most of their story was finding out about their own and the town’s supernatural history with minimal payoff.
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Nov 6, 2018 14:57
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Lurdiak posted:This show could really do with some shades of grey. Hah, I honestly thought this was sarcasm.
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Nov 6, 2018 15:00
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Man I hope season 2 isn't a whole year away. This show, and Altered Carbon, are so good and immersive. I feel like i just want to stay in these crazy worlds forever, forsaking this damned hell dimension we call reality. Actual Satan would be an upgrade
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Nov 6, 2018 17:33
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Anyone else thinking part two is going to have Sabrina as more of an antihero/stuck up succubitch and her mortal friends as the actual goodies? I think the mortals are going to become the main antagonists, and they step going to play a game of one upsmanship of darker and darker poo poo with Sabrina.
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Nov 6, 2018 17:41
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Probably theyre going to immerse themselves in th magic side of Greendale, to redeem or save Sabrina or whatever. Thats my guess.
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Nov 6, 2018 18:02
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Biplane posted:Probably theyre going to immerse themselves in th magic side of Greendale, to redeem or save Sabrina or whatever. Thats my guess. Roz's family was cursed by witches, Harvey is from a line of witch hunters and had to kill his own brother after witches killed him and then resurrected him wrong, Suzy knows that witches attacked the town, and none of them know that Sabrina saved everyone by pledging herself to Satan. I doubt that they will be on good terms with her now, especially since she signed the book and has seemingly immersed herself in the Satan. Sandwich Anarchist fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Nov 6, 2018 |
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Nov 6, 2018 18:15
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Seems like they should be able to mine some fun plot lines from the fact that what's essentially been set up is a "friend falls in with the rich kids" scenario
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Nov 6, 2018 18:21
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Mean Girls, but it's Satan.
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Nov 6, 2018 18:33
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:Mean Girls, but it's Satan. Well, now we know what the musical episode will be.
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Nov 6, 2018 18:36
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Did Roz not know about braille? She can read any book she wants! Not that that makes up for the use of her eyes, but I'd want to go see some films or to some art galleries, or some vistas, really put my eyes to work before they go
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Nov 6, 2018 18:36
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Shoehead posted:Did Roz not know about braille? She can read any book she wants! Not that that makes up for the use of her eyes, but I'd want to go see some films or to some art galleries, or some vistas, really put my eyes to work before they go When you got the shinning, who needs books?
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Nov 6, 2018 18:40
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My question is why she didn't ask Sabrina if she could lift the curse.
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Nov 6, 2018 18:44
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Chilling Adventures of Sabrina: Satan, Eat My Shorts
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:Roz's family was cursed by witches, Harvey is from a line of witch hunters and had to kill his own brother after witches killed him and then resurrected him wrong, Suzy knows that witches attacked the town, and none of them know that Sabrina saved everyone by pledging herself to Satan. Nothing a little explaining won't solve.
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