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I am really digging this show. The characters are all surprisingly complex. Lord Blackwood, for instance, is a prick and mean, but he is straight up and reasonable, and legitimately cares about his coven and duties.
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2018 21:52 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 13:25 |
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Senerio posted:I like how accurately they portrayed Sabrina as a know it all 16 year old who you just want to punch in the face for being too clever yet inexperienced for her own good. Ftfy
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2018 22:42 |
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Edmund Lava posted:Just finished this. Thought it was good, didn’t like the earlier parts where Sabrina seemed surprised about the blood magic and canabalism despite being raised with witches, but it wrapped up nicely. Betty or Veronica?
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2018 18:22 |
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radlum posted:I spent all season thinking Nick was actually Satan, but turns out he is just a not so bad dude who likes Sabrina, that was weird I dunno man. He showed up and stopped the weird sisters from doing anything about Tommy, and it seemed to me like he knew that there was a prophecy to fulfill. I wouldn't be surprised if he turned to indeed by spying on her.
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2018 14:44 |
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Also, it seems like the Academy is locked down pretty hard; the Weird Sisters don't seem able to leave unless summoned or sent on a task, but Nick just goes wherever he wants.
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2018 15:19 |
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EmptyVessel posted:iirc Nick tells Harvey that Sabrina sent him when he arrives.. Doesn't mean she actually did, though.
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2018 17:05 |
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They try to paint Satan, and by extension his followers, as less evil and more amoral, and there are implications that devout witches are spared eternal torture when they finally die.
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2018 17:11 |
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Lurdiak posted:This show could really do with some shades of grey. Yeah, cannibalistic loving aunt who worships Satan but still tries to protect the mortals in town because it's right is very black and white. What show are you watching?
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2018 18:48 |
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Lurdiak posted:That's not what I mean. Despite all the "hail satan" of the show, who's in the wrong and who's in the right in any given conflict is always very black and white. There's the baddies who are 100% wrong, there's the people who are well meaning but still wrong, and there's the goodies who are 100% right. And I get that this is just how shows targeting these demographics tend to be, but it somewhat undercuts the insane satanic stuff for me (and Sabrina's struggle to reconcile her witch and mortal lives) that there's such clearly defined lines. Have you finished the show? Because basically everything you're talking about gets addressed.
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2018 07:21 |
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Lurdiak posted:Nah I haven't quite finished it yet. That's neat if it does get addressed. By the end, everyone has done bad and good poo poo, you get a good amount of "I told you so", and Sabrina starts becoming almost unbearable in her selfish stupidity.
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2018 07:33 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Anyone else thinking part two is going to have Sabrina as more of an antihero/stuck up succubitch and her mortal friends as the actual goodies? I think the mortals are going to become the main antagonists, and they step going to play a game of one upsmanship of darker and darker poo poo with Sabrina.
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2018 17:41 |
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Biplane posted:Probably theyre going to immerse themselves in th magic side of Greendale, to redeem or save Sabrina or whatever. Thats my guess. Roz's family was cursed by witches, Harvey is from a line of witch hunters and had to kill his own brother after witches killed him and then resurrected him wrong, Suzy knows that witches attacked the town, and none of them know that Sabrina saved everyone by pledging herself to Satan. I doubt that they will be on good terms with her now, especially since she signed the book and has seemingly immersed herself in the Satan. Sandwich Anarchist fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Nov 6, 2018 |
# ¿ Nov 6, 2018 18:15 |
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Mean Girls, but it's Satan.
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2018 18:33 |
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My question is why she didn't ask Sabrina if she could lift the curse.
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2018 18:44 |
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Biplane posted:Nothing a little explaining won't solve. Yeah, teenagers are known for their ability to explain themselves to their friends, and not harbor resentments, suspicions and grudges.
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2018 19:04 |
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Biplane posted:gently caress off with your negativity, my teenage witch baes will absolutely manage to save their friendships and the town or whatever. Well yeah, eventually. But I'll bet money that one of the primary sources of tension will be between Sabrina and the mortals.
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2018 19:23 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The cannibalism seems like something controversial even among witches "Shame it isn't a closed casket; we haven't had long pig in ages".
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 15:08 |
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Biplane posted:looks like it, apart from the feast of feasts, which seemed fairly controversial It's only controversial because it kills a valuable member of their shrinking population, not because of the cannibalism. Zelda thought it appropriate to serve Satan a roasted warlock child in her dream, and Satan admonished her for lowering the population. That's my take anyway.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 16:35 |
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EvilTaytoMan posted:Makes you wonder how they became witches in the first place. And if it's possible for a mortal to become a witch, and if so why aren't they recruiting if their population is dwindling? Mortals can't become witches, its implied you need witch blood. I would guess that a long fuckin time ago, some stuff with Satan banging chicks and making them have babies happened, and that started a series of bloodlines.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 16:40 |
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Lurdiak posted:I don't think the biblical allegory dream should be taken too literally. Right, but it shows how Zelda thinks in regards to cannibalism, and she is not one to rock the boat when it comes to church tenets.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 16:55 |
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On that note, wtf do witches use for money? Just like, dollars? That's lame.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 22:25 |
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Phenotype posted:What are they supposed to use? Eyes of newt? How do traditional, non mortal interacting witches get mortal money? Who do they buy poo poo from? Etc It was a joke question, I dont know why you're being so hostile about it.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 22:40 |
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cant cook creole bream posted:They work at a funeral service. A funeral service that serves mortals. My post was about witches that dont interact with mortals. Skwirl posted:And it's a flip phone. MONSTERS
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 22:55 |
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Phenotype posted:I don't think there ARE witches that don't interact with mortals. They're not a very big community, not even as big as the Harry Potter wizards, and I don't think they can just magic up all the things they need. There's probably no spell that can create indoor plumbing, for example, and I don't think any of the witches are moonlighting as a plumber. You're probably right. I also don't think it really matters, because pulp tv show.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 23:16 |
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Woden posted:Emergency services at the mine were all using 60's cars. There's a lot in the show that's weirdly anachronistic, it's not just witch stuff. Yeah but this is intentional to make it feel a certain way. Harvey straight up has an iphone, and they reference modern pop culture, but everything looks like the 60s. They did the same thing in It Follows to great effect.
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2018 02:49 |
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Gaunab posted:I could have sworn she called it the cunning or something like that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kddzyds4fGo
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2018 22:43 |
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Is "the writing" just the standard goon complaint about any media?
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2018 18:39 |
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"You entered into a contract when you released your local advert, and in the largest physical news source available in your pathetic town, no less. No, these are not organic, I got them from the left bin. Ah. Yes. Well."
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2018 00:21 |
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Yeah I'm viewing the ending of S1 as the climax of a single season.
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2018 03:08 |
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Phenotype posted:What does the demon actually want that "equal partners" would get him? Protection, presumably. We've seen that familiars can die, and it doesn't take anything magical to do it. Sandwich Anarchist fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Dec 3, 2018 |
# ¿ Dec 3, 2018 23:32 |
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Kegslayer posted:I thought it did? This is correct. Salem wants to protect Sabrina, because she protects him and gives him a nice warm house to live in. While Salem watches out for Sabrina and actively offers protection, another witch might be caught off guard and poo poo on before they can make the call for help for their familiar.
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# ¿ Dec 3, 2018 23:45 |
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Mymla posted:So, Salem is literally just a cat. That turns into a demon to beat the poo poo out of stuff sometimes, sure. It's also sort of implied that there is some other kind of magical fuckery going on that we aren't privy to, so who knows wth
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# ¿ Dec 4, 2018 08:20 |
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Lurdiak posted:Salem's deal just lets him be more proactive, as far as I understand it. Yeah. Salem wants to protect Sabrina, rather than being forced to. Think of it like a job; if you work somewhere you don't like but bills need to be paid, you'll do the bare minimum and not go above and beyond, but if it's a place that you truly enjoy being at, you'll be proactive and try to do more than normal. Witches generally bind a familiar against their will, but Sabrina asked nicely.
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# ¿ Dec 4, 2018 16:26 |
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Mymla posted:So, Salem is literally just a cat. A magic cat.
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# ¿ Dec 4, 2018 22:29 |
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Watch...the show?
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2018 05:29 |
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I super appreciate how it continued and developed the plot instead of just being a one off special. I am really digging Harvey's slide into distrust and fear of magic, which is sure to lead into some really bad conflict wrt his witch hunter heritage.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2018 21:16 |
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BioEnchanted posted:I like that he appreciates what she was trying to do though, he just put his foot down about "Thanks, but don't do that again, OK?" It seems he still likes her, he's just wary due to how badly she screwed up with regards to his brother. I agree. I am hoping to see them take it un the direction of his distrust growing and having him slowly (or rapidly) start sliding further and further into "burn the witches". Maybe his dad drinks so much because of something he saw or knows about...
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2018 02:13 |
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Straight White Shark posted:It would be interesting if "witch hunter" was a sort of calling and his dad's alcoholism was his way of politely declining Especially if after Sabrina cured it, he decided to take up the call and start hunting witches, finds out about Sabrina, and Harvey has to choose between his dad and her. Sandwich Anarchist fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Dec 16, 2018 |
# ¿ Dec 16, 2018 04:35 |
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Arbite posted:I wonder if the audience is supposed to forget that two of the people Sabrina's on decent terms with deliberately murdered Harvey's brother. You can bet your rear end he is gonna find that out, too.
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2018 21:04 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 13:25 |
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BioEnchanted posted:I'm kind of hoping that the Weird Sisters eventually end up spending more time outside the academy due to Sabrina's influence, start seeing mortals as more than just toys and start feeling really lovely about their prior actions. I hope they do all that and then get fuckin killed anyway
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2018 22:57 |