Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Jamie Murray (Camilla) loving owns. She's so good at being pulpy villains. Love her.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
I thought the Hell portal sequence was a really good use of CGI's weird floaty-ness. It looked uncanny, rather than lovely.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

WeedlordGoku69 posted:

On a more related note I'm finally getting into s3 and good god, Warren Ellis, we get it, you have a femdom pet play kink

e: like, I like the whole Hector and Lenore arc in general, but to call it "somewhat unsubtle fetish material" would be like calling the Atlantic Ocean "a little big" and I'm not sure I needed to know that much about the sexual preferences of the guy who wrote Transmetropolitan

Yeah I don't read it this way.

But I guess I like to live in a world where writers can engage with porn as a genre rather than just as an act of self-pleasure.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Yeah, Ellis has a series of preoccupations and a writing style that's very clearly his -- I've only read a few of his things (Trees, Planetarium, The Wild Storm), but I'm pretty sure I could identify if a comic was by him if I picked it up and flicked through a few pages.

He's interested in tactics and combat, but he meshes that with a very literary bent. He's also sparse with his dialogue, and like long scenes of silent action. When people do talk it tends to be fairly important and pithy. His work is high concept, but largely character driven (compare with, say, Alan Moore, who's more plot driven than character driven) and he's a very methodical plotter (Morrison is not this).

He's got a clear voice, is what I'm saying.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Bug Squash posted:

Season 3 was such an upswing in writing quality that I personally suspected a lot was the work of a secondary writer and not Ellis.

Pretty sure it was all Warren Ellis.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Technowolf posted:

Has Netflix done any shows that lasted more than 3 or 4 seasons? I get the feeling that at least one executive there still thinks that the "65 then syndication" rule still applies.

Orange is the New Black, House of Cards, Stranger Things will get a fifth season...

Netflix is operating on a different sort of release structure; but that really only applies to live action. Animation, on the other hand, is typically commissioned in large multi-season chunks, often with defined end dates. A lot of this is because of the long lead times required on these kinds of projects. It's pretty clear that Warren Ellis was already moving on to another Netflix project about a year ago.

I imagine all this "we could do a spin off" talk is based around the fact that they've unavoidably ended the project already.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
I'm genuinely psyched for this season. Vampire Stahma and her sistren are fuckijg great villains, and I'm excited to finally see them spack some poo poo.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
What Castlevania games are worth playing / accessible these days?

I'm slamming through Hollow Knight right now and I could go for more.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Ep 3

Day Armour

And of course Ivana Milicevic would get a kick arse fight scene. Banshee pride!


This show gets me pumped.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Ep 4:

I started out wondering why the gently caress they were doing this flashback, and now it's scintillating.

"Get back in your loving pram!"

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Oasx posted:

I really thought this was the best season by far, it felt like the new writer/showrunner realized that there were 50 games worth of weapons, monsters and bosses, and this was the time to use them in the show.

Same writer/showrunner.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
This was really good but all the endings were happy so I feel like I have nothing to add. It's very much a part 2 so last season; Season 3 was a bunch of fun adventures that descended into misterablism, this season was a bunch of horrible miserablism (of course the heroic guest star is a mad horrible poo poo; twice!) that ends up becoming hopeful and happy.

The only thing I have to add is that it's slightly declarative about its characters in a way that reminds me of British comics writers (Alan Moore and Pat Mills both do this a lot). But it's by Warren Ellis so how is that an observation?

Weird how much I cared about Lenore in the end. She's horrible, but she's a bit dumb and you feel bad for her because of it. Even though she's also a mass murderer rapist.

I liked all the qualms the vampires felt, and the way the narrative offered genuine insight into ridiculous psychotic villains.

It's just good.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Strom Cuzewon posted:

Yeah, I feel like every character started off this season about a hundred miles away from where they ended last season. I kind of liked where everybody ended up, but I feel like we missed a few episodes about how they actually got there.

Alucard ends last season tipping over the edge into isolation and cruelty, then immediately walks it back
Lenore and Hector end last season with Lenore completely breaking down and destroying Hector's individuality, as soon as this season starts he's secretly plotting and has his own plans and desires for literally the first time in the entire show
Saint Germain finally learns to open up and trust people, then one vision-quest later he's callous and self-serving again

Isaac had a pretty satisfying arc at least.

It's part of the arc of the season -- a couple of bad weeks doesn't make a bad world (or a couple of good weeks make a good world, or a good person).

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
I don't know about that.

Seaons 3 and 4 are two parts of the same whole, thematically, tonally, etc. But also there are plot elements from every subplot that are followed up in the continuation. Just because the twins are dead, doesn't mean you're not meant to be thinking about them, or their affect on Alucard's mental state, in Season 4.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Anime has to feature teenagers prominently because Japanese audiences find it unrealistic that adults are allowed to do interesting things and have personalities.

Unless they're a five hundred year old dragon who just looks like a teenager.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

FLIPADELPHIA posted:

It's been awhile since I watched seasons 1-3 but alucard strikes me as fundamentally good as well. He's not a crusader the way Sypha is but he actually cares about people and goes out of his way to not harm them.

It's why Alucard's love interest is such a good match for him, in that she shares the same central philosophy, but does so openly and without fear.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

It comes down to Warren Ellis not knowing how the artists were going to draw her when he wrote her arc in S3. S4 was him writing her as his typical hot red head.

I seriously suspect this wasn't the case. Not only would he at least have seen the character design if not actively collaborated on it, during the conceptual stages of the project, the long animation lead times would have meant he'd have written both seasons, if not concurrently, then basically consecutively.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Dirk the Average posted:

Lenore is handled horribly, yeah. Her domination ring thingy is basically useless and does nothing to stop Hector from doing whatever the gently caress he wants even if it's clearly not what Lenore wants in the slightest.

The rings bend Hector to the will of the four sisters, right? But they're ambivalent and undecided, meaning he has greater latitude. I assume that's why they kept showing close ups of the rings during scenes where the sisters expressed their doubt and indecision.

That's how I read it anyway.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Robobot posted:

A gritty Frogger anime that deals with climate change issues.

I dunno if you've seen Animals Of Farthing Wood but it's legit actually this.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Swearing good. Relieves stress and increases physical pain tolerance required to read my own posts back when editing them.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Bust Rodd posted:

Again, it’s funny to critique Ellis for his dialogue, it’s like critiquing Gaiman for his stories being too whimsical or critiquing Moore because his stories are too cerebral… that’s literally the thing he is most famously known for doing better than literally anyone else in their industry.

I think Chip Zdasrsky is known for doing patter, and then there are people like Pat Mills and a few others who are know for dialogue too. Ellis i always thought was known for his fascination with detail, and his long periods of dialogue-less action.

When the dialogue does turn up, it's strong and pithy (it'd have to be, right?), but yeah, when people say Ellis i don't think dialogue. Quite the opposite.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Spermando posted:

Fate: Zero, Futurama, Attack on Titan, Devilman... I'm not the biggest fan of the dialogue in those shows, but there's a much bigger effort to make everyone sound different and the writing has more tricks than self-aware quips and edgy dialogue.

You mean the translation.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Spermando posted:

It's not a good look if the facsimile of a product has more nuance than an all-original product.

Stories get looser in the retelling of them, that's all I'm saying.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Bust Rodd posted:

Devilman: Crybaby is awesome but yeah, I wouldn’t recommend to most people, only true freaks

It's literally the only one in that list I'd recommend LOL

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Bust Rodd posted:

I would absolutely not want that to be someone’s first exposure to anime

Nah it'd be good for a laugh.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Ccs posted:

Episode 9 being just 30 straight minutes of the most insane action animation I’ve ever seen more than makes up for a few quibbles I have with the plot. Like, visually this series felt heavily inspired by Vampire Hunted D Bloodlust. But the earliest season felt like them really straining to keep those complicated designs moving in all but a few standout scenes. By season 4 they’re acing it for sequences upon sequences and while it never quite matches the smoothness of that Madhouse feature, it has more inventive choreography and crazy fx animation all over to make up for it. Plus seeing this quality in what is still a tv show, even if it’s only a 10 episode order at a time, is impressive. Really impressive to see how much they’ve improved as a studio.

This is their flagship program though. If you look Blood of Zeus, which came out between Seasons 3 and 4, you'll see where that budget probably came from.

That show does not look delightful, despite having some very solid visual designs.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Ghost Leviathan posted:

While I feel it mighta been to save on voice acting, I get the feeling that St Germain's girlfriend being a nonentity as far as the show goes kinda reflects that his whole motivation is opaque to everyone else and that he's potentially loving the entire world over because he's too proud to actually ask for help from any of the near-superheroes he meets who might be able to help him but instead makes a (relatively metaphorical) deal with the devil only to welch at literally the last possible moment at the cost of his life. Probably fitting given everyone else's arcs are about the problems they've refused to acknowledge or talk about, and/or opening up to people about them.

Yeah, I feel it was a thematic choice -- if they'd really wanted to save on voice actors, they'd probably not have cast someone like Christine Adams in a thirty second cameo.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply