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i beat the secret boss first try. step your game up toby, this ain't poo poo compared to jevil.Flesnolk posted:Oh yeah, that definitely reads like he's not interested anymore and telling you to gently caress off (and also that you should Side B) oh poo poo, there's an alternate route in this one? drat guess I need to jump back in
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Motherfucker posted:It also kinda feels like Kris is taking 'Hes gone to college' a little hard, right? Kris is a weird, quiet kid. It’s natural that they’d be really attached to their brother, he was probably one of the only people they really felt comfortable around.
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i’m gonna need highly risky invasive brain surgery to get NOW’S YOUR CHANCE TO BE A BIG SHOT out of my head
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ZZT the Fifth posted:I just had a thought. the impression I got from that was both times the game has switched to Susie's perspective, it has ended with Ralsei being cut off mid-sentence by Susie coming back, implying that Kris and Ralsei were having a conversation offscreen. if kris has a conversation offscreen, they are speaking as themselves and the player can't hear what they're talking about and can't interfere. in the evil route the soul doesn't let that happen because Kris is clearly not okay with what they're being forced to do and would try to ask for help.
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Sep 27, 2021 04:14
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that wide susie sprite is so drat funny
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Sep 27, 2021 04:44
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no, the anime dragon is going to fall in love with Susie
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Sep 27, 2021 06:21
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Sep 27, 2021 13:38
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Tenebrais posted:Actually makes me wonder if her behaviour there isn't as much about her home problems as that she has a history with Toriel - she was probably in her class at one point. It’s this, she’s visiting the house of her old kindergarten (or elementary school?) teacher so she’s being super awkward.
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Sep 27, 2021 14:02
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God dammit Dess being short for December flew right over my head 
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Sep 27, 2021 16:32
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anyway I hope one of the chapters is a bottle episode with jockington
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RE: Gaster stuff The voice that talks to us at the beginning of the game and the “stranger” that contacted Jevil and Spambot are definitely Gaster, or at the very least somehow related to him. The usage of Gaster’s Theme and smile.ogg is way too conspicuous to be just an easter egg. Characters that speak with him seem to become hyper-aware of the fact that they have no control over their fate and become obsessed with finding freedom until they go insane. This might also be what’s driving Kris to open up dark fountains, they’re trying to find a way to break free. Gaster may or may not be doing this maliciously, it’s impossible to say at this point since so much of him is shrouded in mystery, we don’t even know for sure if this is the same Gaster as the one who fell into the core in Undertale or an alternate universe version like with all the other returning NPCs. All of this isn’t just *lore*, though, it ties into a recurring theme of the story where characters feel trapped. Kris doesn’t just feel like they have no control over their life because there’s a literal bright red heart inside of them that’s deciding their every move. They’re a quiet teenager whose parents relatively recently went through a messy divorce, their older brother who they relied on for support has gone away to college, one of the only other real friends they had went missing (and Kris might even have been there when it happened and not been able to do anything to stop it), it would make any kid feel helpless. Noelle has a strict and controlling mother, her sister has gone missing, and her father is in the hospital. She feels obligated to do whatever other people tell her and is too afraid to ever say no. She’s only comfortable in situations that make her feel like the danger isn’t real and she can leave whenever she wants to, like watching a horror movie. Rudolph himself knows what his daughter is going through and wants to help her but is confined to his hospital bed. Berdly feels cornered by people’s expectations into being someone he knows deep down isn’t really him. The King of Spades resented being locked away in an abandoned classroom and wanted to rule over the people that had imprisoned him. Lancer was torn between protecting his new friends and being afraid of disobeying his father, and his attempted solution was to imprison his new friends so that they wouldn’t get hurt. We don’t know entirely what Susie’s deal is yet but she reflexively sees other people as threats, avoids responsibility like the plague, and doesn’t know how to put her guard down. And Queen’s whole deal is that she wants to provide comfort to people who feel helpless, not realizing that what she’s actually doing is feeding into their anxieties and making their problems worse. It’s fitting that the most morally repugnant thing you can do in the game (so far) isn’t just hurting people, it’s forcing someone else to hurt people. Augus fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Sep 28, 2021 |
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I'm not entirely convinced Gaster is the one who hosed up Jevil and Spamton. Jevil and/or Seam make a reference to the knight being the one who made Jevil aware of his role I don’t think this is said anywhere. Seam only mentions Jevil meeting a “special someone”. And Jevil’s only reference to the knight is to foreshadow that more dark fountains are going to be opened. Zereth posted:Did Noelle know there was somebody to hide it from? Ralsei definitely does. Noelle didn’t even know there was something to hide, she has no idea what you’re talking about when you tell her to cast a spell called “Snowgrave”. Somehow you just automatically know she can use that spell once her ice magic becomes powerful enough to do it. Pretty creepy
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Katsuma posted:Also, regarding SnowGrave Noelle's firm insistence that she didn't know that spell read to me as less like ignorance of it, and more like denial. After all, she didn't have any such objections to IceShock. That girl can repress trauma with the best of them. But that wouldn’t really make sense with her giving in and trying to cast it out of frustration and then being in shock at the results. And she hasn’t been in the dark world for that long, when would she have used it earlier? The whole sequence of freezing every enemy, getting the ring, getting the other ring is meant to power up Noelle’s ice magic to the point where she’s able to use this horrible, deadly spell. It’s not even possible to cast it if you do every single other step but then remove the thorn ring.
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Tenebrais posted:I would not have guessed in chapter 1 that Noelle would be the most horny-on-main character. it’s much more obvious that she has a crush if you pick an option besides “She’s nice” when Noelle asks you about Susie at the end of Chapter 1
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quote:* She WHAT? She smashed you against the LOCKERS?
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If we go off the ratings in the Mettaton fight there’s over 10k monsters in the underground
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Oxyclean posted:What's sans' flaw? passivity, he’s jaded as a result of knowing about alternate timelines and resets, so he just lets things happen.
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Sep 29, 2021 15:20
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sans himself admits to being apathetic, he gave up on trying to change things because none of it would matter anyway
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Electric Phantasm posted:I do wonder if we're supposed to read into anything where they're at in Deltarune comparatively to where they were at in Undertale. Cause thinking about it they all got some issues. All of these are more or less direct parallels to how they were in Undertale. Alphys even had her first date at a garbage dump lol
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Acerbatus posted:I didn't like Toriel Alphys or Undyne. hosed up
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jockington is gaster
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Acerbatus posted:Now that's a blast from the past. the answer is no susie is secretly the frisk of this game
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dmboogie posted:i think trying to connect the two games on anything more than a thematic level is wiki lore gametheory poo poo that overshoots whats actually interesting about the writing yeah until chapter 5 or 6 or 12 or something introduces some crazy swerve and it suddenly isn’t but for now it is
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“oops” -Lancer
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lol I didn’t even notice until just now that Chaos King is an evil version of Lancer’s themerko posted:[[RIP]] AND [[TEAR]]!! Big loving Shot Augus fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Oct 7, 2021 |
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somepartsareme posted:yeah, they claim that we'll meet "Suzy" very soon but it's been 3 years since then!! Augus fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Oct 10, 2021 |
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Captain Invictus posted:Thanks for the recs! I'll definitely add them to the work watch list. everything spamton says is gold “WILL YOU TAKE THE FINAL DEAL!? REMEMBER... THIS IS UP TO YOU! I WOn'T FORCE YOU.” >No Deal “WRONG”
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Neuronyx posted:
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Neuronyx posted:It IS weird how Queen barely, if ever, addresses Ralsei unless he's actually drawing attention to himself like when he tells the Roaring thing. Otherwise she's even like "wait was there a third guy with you". it’s because Ralsei doesn’t use the internet
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Please somebody answer the phone I can’t take another minute all alone Pull the strings and make it ring Don’t you want to be free? Please somebody answer the phone I can’t take another minute alone Pull the strings and- Pull the strings and- Don’t you wanna be a BIG SHOT? Augus fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Oct 15, 2021 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:it's more that if he was super important he'd probably not exist mostly in vague lore hints based on hidden content and optional bosses the final boss of undertale wasnt even namedropped until the last third of the game Feels Villeneuve posted:in optional super-bosses. Sans in UT also dropped a ton of dialogue about stuff which was interesting but tangential to what most people got out of the game what if the metafictional construct was given a personality and a backstory Augus fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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Whitenoise Poster posted:Chara and Gaster and all the meta poo poo are absolutely the most memorable and popular parts of the game and it isn't even close. Whitenoise Poster posted:And you are a tiny, vanishing minority of the fan base. Sorry! I know it sucks, been there before. The last taste haver surrounded by fans here the wrong reasons. But not a lot you can about it. are you okay
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Oct 18, 2021 20:26
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you guys do realize the primary audience for these games is comprised of teenagers, right?
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Impermanent posted:obsessive teenagers right, teenagers
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mat pat hasn’t made any deltarune chapter 2 videos yet and it’s definitely because Toby called him out 2 years ago lol https://twitter.com/tobyfox/status/1081239086847967232?s=21
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SyntheticPolygon posted:He was actually the first character you meet. just like Gaster’s the first character you meet in Deltarune 
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