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Please use this thread for any and all discussion for Read Dead Redemption 2 as it relates to the story arcs and whatnot. POSTS IN THIS THREAD WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS YOU DOPES If you haven't finished the story and/or other content and you don't want to know what happens, DO NOT READ ANY FURTHER. I'm not going to post any spoilers in this OP, but again, SPOILERS BELOW. Manxome Foe fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Nov 5, 2018 |
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I posted on Reddit a month ago that Arthur would die and we'd play as John. I don't know how people wouldn't see that coming. I did giggle like a little kid when you do the initial Jim Milton missions and they riff on the music themes from RDR1. Great stuff.
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Nov 5, 2018 16:57
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Im in epilogue 1 now and just started the mission Jim Milton Rides Again? or whatever its called and oh my god I LOVE Marstons pyjamas I have thoughts on the ending of chapter 6 (mainly that the Micah stuff didnt start getting full focus until too late and also the very last you see of Dutch, at least in the good/canon ending, feels extremely rushed) but those can wait. Actually what are the other endings? I got the Help John + High Honour one
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Nov 5, 2018 17:17
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Escobarbarian posted:Im in epilogue 1 now and just started the mission Jim Milton Rides Again? or whatever its called and oh my god I LOVE Marstons pyjamas I only know of the optional ones where you go with John. In one, Micah shoots you in the head, and in the other you just crawl up the side of the mountain and die watching the sunset.
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Nov 5, 2018 17:48
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Micah can shoot you in the head on the mountain if you gently caress up the qte crawling to your gun. I did what the qte said and arthur just sat there. Thankfully it counts as a failed mission/retry instead of your ending. Kinda blew the mood though. I was more sad about my horsey  the "thank you" whisper in the ear was probably the top moment for me.
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Nov 5, 2018 19:24
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The ride to the camp with high honor, as the voices of people you have helped played, was really well done. What happens on low honor? Is it like voices of your buddies and poo poo? WoodrowSkillson fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Nov 5, 2018 |
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Nov 5, 2018 21:57
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*extremely epic western score play on a snow capped trail* MICAH! THIS IS JOHN MARSTON. IM COMIN' FOR YOU.
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Nov 5, 2018 22:42
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Can we talk about how fuckin good the DAngelo song is in chapter 5 and what an amazing moment that is
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Nov 5, 2018 22:46
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Are the people complaining about guarma some "muh bideo gaem nonpolitical" gang or legit didn't like it for a reason? I thought guarma owned because I like seeing these kinds of western characters "do the right thing" in the way that the man with no name blows up a bridge saving hundreds of not thousands of civil war soldiers' lives (so he can steal some poo poo).
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Nov 5, 2018 22:50
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WoodrowSkillson posted:The ride to the camp with high honor, as the voices of people you have helped played, was really well done. It's a lot of stuff about trying to justify what Arthur has done and how he can't ever change. Most of the high/low honor changes are similar in that way.
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Nov 5, 2018 22:54
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Honey, I'm just an honest rancher I won't do anything untoward out on the trail I swear...
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Nov 5, 2018 23:11
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WoodrowSkillson posted:The ride to the camp with high honor, as the voices of people you have helped played, was really well done. Not sure about low honor but mine had a long moment of silence because I didn't give a gently caress about anyone. heh
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Nov 5, 2018 23:18
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Also is it just me or did John's hair change significantly post-Arthur death. Obviously they had to make it look like RDR 1 hair at first but suddenly it's just black Arthur hair.
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Nov 5, 2018 23:20
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Do stranger missions still pop up for John? I want to be sure I get all the missable trophies this time as I'm a dumb idiot addicted to meaningless pixels
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Nov 5, 2018 23:33
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Gotta say, I avoided any spoilers playing, but the second the debtor coughed blood in Arthur's face, I was like yep, he's gonna die. Media doesn't ever show coughing unless its relevant to the story. But yeah, I don't know how that should be a surprise, considering it's a prequel and Arthur (and many other characters that die in this one) don't exist in RDR1. I actually hadn't played RDR1 (just watched some recap videos a while ago and forgot some details), so the whole time through the epilogue 2, I was expecting poo poo to go bad for John. Like, he's finally built the house, going to propose to Abigail, etc - I was thinking it was going to end with them all dead so it was actually a pleasant surprise for me. JBP posted:Are the people complaining about guarma some "muh bideo gaem nonpolitical" gang or legit didn't like it for a reason? I thought guarma owned because I like seeing these kinds of western characters "do the right thing" in the way that the man with no name blows up a bridge saving hundreds of not thousands of civil war soldiers' lives (so he can steal some poo poo). I guess it would be nice if you could go visit in postgame or something? Just to screw around the jungle hunting animals? Maybe a DLC with Sadie??
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Nov 5, 2018 23:38
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I thought Guarma was fine. I don't know that it fit into the story/themes very well but it was a good diversion and just short enough
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Nov 5, 2018 23:40
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Ah yeah the lack of exploring stuff I 100% agree with. Hopefully they use all the assets for online.Escobarbarian posted:I thought Guarma was fine. I don't know that it fit into the story/themes very well but it was a good diversion and just short enough I just love me a set piece and some bad men doing right for bad reasons. I though thematically that guarma was basically Dutch's promise fulfilled. We got to the tropical island and its hell on loving earth as usual. Also when I arrived I went from wily outdoorsman to being bit by a snake and then stumbling into that blow dart trap.... The snake really sold it that I was out of my depth (until someone handed me a gun and I was like yeah ok I'm still a pro at this). JBP fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Nov 5, 2018 |
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Nov 5, 2018 23:40
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Escobarbarian posted:Can we talk about how fuckin good the DAngelo song is in chapter 5 and what an amazing moment that is I like the house building song.
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Nov 6, 2018 00:05
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Also I'm excited for Red Dead Redemption 3 starring Sadie.
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Nov 6, 2018 00:09
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:Also I'm excited for Red Dead Redemption 3 starring Sadie. This. Although, I kinda want a single player DLC for Sadie ala Lost and the Damned or Ballad of Gay Tony. Not because she doesn't deserve a full game, but because I don't want to wait 10 years for it.
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Nov 6, 2018 00:10
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:Also I'm excited for Red Dead Redemption 3 starring Sadie. I was forever hopeful that this would be the case post-Arthur. The early mission where she goes into town with Arthur seemed like the start of something amazing if they had the balls (heh) to go down that trail.
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Nov 6, 2018 02:26
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Capn Beeb posted:Do stranger missions still pop up for John? I want to be sure I get all the missable trophies this time as I'm a dumb idiot addicted to meaningless pixels Yes, and they're voiced and everything. The sheer amount of stuff John talks through after the main game has ended almost makes me feel like this game was going to be John the whole time and at some point they added Arthur as the protagonist. I mean Stranger missions, he says the names of the bounties you go after, has conversations with other NPC's and the whole nine. Also the loving Time Traveler collection bit is amazing.
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Nov 6, 2018 02:32
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Is John worse at drawing than Arthur? I sketched an interesting location, and it was unexpectedly lovely.
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Nov 6, 2018 02:38
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OK I just finished the epilogue ending. What the gently caress was that? Why would Dutch shoot Micah after all that? Just seemed completely random. Then he's allowed to walk off, but killing Dutch is the entire point of RDR 1?! Sloppy poo poo, someone tell me what I'm missing. I gotta admit seeing the barn built, then walking in and seeing the barn doors where John eventually makes his last stand was pretty surreal. That was a good moment.
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Nov 6, 2018 02:39
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I love how John makes the same pose he does on the original RDR cover with the sawed off shotgun during the epilogue when you shoot that rear end in a top hat who set the ranch on fire and killed that one farmhand. It was a nice touch. 
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Nov 6, 2018 02:41
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UnfortunateSexFart posted:OK I just finished the epilogue ending. What the gently caress was that? Why would Dutch shoot Micah after all that? Just seemed completely random. Then he's allowed to walk off, but killing Dutch is the entire point of RDR 1?! Sloppy poo poo, someone tell me what I'm missing. Dutch doesn't say anything, same as when he could have killed Micah to save Arthur. He leaves the money too. He's done and in RDR he's a crazy caveman. John has to kill him to save his family and himself from the federals in RDR. E: also he looks like a fat loser. He knows Micah ruined his gang and killed his family. He realises Micah sold them out when half the gang storm a mountain just to kill him for revenge, which is something Dutch knows too well. JBP fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Nov 6, 2018 |
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Nov 6, 2018 02:52
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JBP posted:Dutch doesn't say anything, same as when he could have killed Micah to save Arthur. He leaves the money too. He's done and in RDR he's a crazy caveman. John has to kill him to save his family and himself from the federals in RDR. That doesn't answer my questions at all. If it's just " he crazy" then that's poo poo writing.
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Nov 6, 2018 02:54
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UnfortunateSexFart posted:That doesn't answer my questions at all. If it's just " he crazy" then that's poo poo writing. He's crazy in RDR I don't know what to tell you. Did you not notice him losing his mind for 60 hours? Also as I said he's a hermit in RDR. Like, looks at the other things I posted. He regrets what he did and he knows the truth so he doesn't say a word as is his usual play and kills Micah, then he walks away entirely. He's hosed. In RDR when you catch up to him he's a wild man. JBP fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Nov 6, 2018 |
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Nov 6, 2018 02:56
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JBP posted:He's crazy in RDR I don't know what to tell you. Did you not notice him losing his mind for 60 hours? Yeah I did, that doesn't mean it's good writing for him to suddenly shoot Micah, who he's been with for years post-Arthur death at that point. Also I hate your avatar, plz change.
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Nov 6, 2018 02:58
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When Sadie took the reins on Arthur's horse (RIP Specter, you were a good boy and I'm sorry about those times I accidentally slammed your face into a tree  ) in one of the final missions, I was expecting we'd play as her after Arthur inevitably kicks the bucket in the next five minutes. I didn't mind the epilogue with Marston and it was what I was guessing we'd get even before I started playing the game, but even then I was hoping we'd at least get to freeroam as Sadie once John fucks off to Beecher's Hope at the end of the epilogue. I suppose it was easier to use John because they wouldn't have to tweak any of the customization stuff for a completely different character model, but I'd still have liked to play the adventures of the badass bounty hunter lady.It also feels a little weird to be running around the areas from RDR1 as John at this point because I always got the idea that was his first time in New Austin, but I guess it wasn't explicitly stated either way in RDR1 so whatever. And besides, it's postgame free roam so it doesn't have to make that much sense story-wise anyway. No Pants posted:Is John worse at drawing than Arthur? I sketched an interesting location, and it was unexpectedly lovely. 
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Nov 6, 2018 03:02
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UnfortunateSexFart posted:Yeah I did, that doesn't mean it's good writing for him to suddenly shoot Micah, who he's been with for years post-Arthur death at that point. He shoots him because the whole gang or what's left of it have come for revenge. That's a lightbulb moment, he's done everything wrong. No.
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Nov 6, 2018 03:02
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Like he's going to kill Sadie as well, he did what he thought was right in the situation and it comes back to Arthur.
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Nov 6, 2018 03:04
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I was half expecting playable Sadie so Rockstar could get extra use out of any online female player assets.
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Nov 6, 2018 04:17
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I'm honestly regretting finishing the story now. I always try to platinum good games, but a lot of the trophies for this are hot garbage (I'm not mashing X for 10 hours for some of the stupid Gambling challenges). I think I'm burnt out.
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Nov 6, 2018 04:22
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bear is driving! posted:I'm honestly regretting finishing the story now. I always try to platinum good games, but a lot of the trophies for this are hot garbage (I'm not mashing X for 10 hours for some of the stupid Gambling challenges). I'm still having a lot of fun, I will probably play it again at a slow pace picking up jobs I missed and camp talks but I won't bother with a lot of the poo poo. I forgot to go see the travelling freakshow before ending Arthur's career
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Nov 6, 2018 04:25
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:I was half expecting playable Sadie so Rockstar could get extra use out of any online female player assets. Honestly if post story was just Sadie time and John existed out in his ranch and you could help him off and on that would've been hype as hell
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Nov 6, 2018 04:51
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Capn Beeb posted:Honestly if post story was just Sadie time and John existed out in his ranch and you could help him off and on that would've been hype as hell This would have been much better. John does his thing (even play as him in epilogue 1) then Sadie does things around to help him get set up like kill outlaws and bring John on some jobs. John is the successor to Arthur, but so is Sadie in a lot of ways and those two rode on so many heavy situations together that it would have been nice for Sadie to get the journal.
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Nov 6, 2018 04:53
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Im pissed off john doesnt have his good hair, and while i appreciate they did it at all, he looks kind of weird in general. its like they morphed his model onto the arthur frame or something and tuned it to look as good as they could. Also im upset with arthurs handling of strauss, sure loan sharking is low and led to some bad poo poo, but he was much like arthur in that he was just trying to survive and had to play to his strengths in the way arthur did as well. I dont know if we were intended to feel any sort of vindication for that but i wouldve liked that to have been a player choice, especially considering his outcome. Its weird that the game assigns some sort of nobility into the cold blooded shooting of hundreds but considers loan sharking to be beneath slaughter.
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Nov 6, 2018 06:03
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bear is driving! posted:I'm honestly regretting finishing the story now. I always try to platinum good games, but a lot of the trophies for this are hot garbage (I'm not mashing X for 10 hours for some of the stupid Gambling challenges). Yeah I'm not digging post game at all, and there's no way I'm going to even attempt to get all the cheevos. Was really disappointed by the list. GTA V's were much better, pointed you in the direction of good content you might otherwise miss.
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HORMELCHILI posted:Im pissed off john doesnt have his good hair, and while i appreciate they did it at all, he looks kind of weird in general. its like they morphed his model onto the arthur frame or something and tuned it to look as good as they could. What happens to Strauss? I didn't do anything for him and someone mentioned towards the end that he was picked up by the Pinkertons and tortured but he died without saying a word. Arthur says something like "I guess you can't tell a man's character by their appearance"
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