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fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018

"I will Mr. Hearst, uh, vigorously and immediately, I-"

"JUST SEND HER THE gently caress UP"

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banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




is the "have you seen my baseball" guy from Something About Marry not coming back?

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

W. Earl Brown, yeah he is. He tweeted about it a while back.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Dan putting aside his distaste for Adams after they side with Wu against Lee is still one of my funnest memories of the show. Dan just walking around with a big grin afterwards going,"loving Adams! :xd:" :3:

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost
The one thing that still bothers me about the last season is everyone apart from Johnny seeming to be fairly cool with a random blonde whore being sacrificed to Hearst so that Trixie doesn't have to be.

edit: mainly Bullock, I suppose. Most of the other characters are morally gray and practical enough to do it.

davidspackage fucked around with this message at 08:26 on Nov 11, 2018

kaworu
Jul 23, 2004

I still think that the final episode of season 2 may very well be the greatest in-context episode of television that has ever been produced. "Boy the Earth Speaks To" is the title, I think - as it is our introduction to Hearst, after all, which was the culmination of a number of plot threads from season 2... But that episode isn't just the culmination of a bunch of exposition... The whole episode has an almost organic rhythm, and more than any other episode of that show, all the dialogue and all the motions and all the shots and especially the editing conveys this rapid sense of "poo poo going down" in every possible way, and a reckoning coming to nearly each and every character that's been stewing since the very first episode, in some cases. It ALL culminates in one sequence that's as close to perfect as anything I've ever seen in TV or film.

And the wonderful thing is in addition to what I was just talking - being like a PERFECT finale for both Seasons 1 and 2 - it also feels like... a joyous celebration! It does, after all, end with a wedding - unconventional as it may be - and it's truly wonderful joyful moment.... Now, I love season 3, don't get me wrong, but I would have been a lot happier with season 2 being the end of the series, rather than season 3, if only because the season 2 finale felt like such a perfect wrapping up of what we'd seen so far. The ending of season 3, on the other hand, felt like it, uh.... left the audience wanting a bit of satisfaction and with less satisfaction and more a raw feeling of injustice with a bit of solace thrown in here and there (Joanie and Jane :unsmith:)

Tokelau All Star
Feb 23, 2008

THE TAXES! THE FINGER THING MEANS THE TAXES!

"Prescribe this malingerer a can of peaches, and show him the loving door."

This is an otherwise unremarkable line from the episode where the preacher was sick, but it encapsulates a lot of what makes the show great. Al is vicious, brilliant, vulgar, and yet has a big heart. Really sold me on Al and the writing.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
He mentions in an earlier episode that his brother is epileptic as well, so you understand why he would have sympathy for the preacher. And that wink! That’s a great moment to focus on.

Started watching again from the beginning, up to 110, and there really are so many fantastic lines and small asides. Best dialogue in TV history still, probably.

This time around I’ve been reading Sepinwall’s reviews along with the series - https://uproxx.com/topic/deadwood-review/ - and Jim Beaver, the actor who plays Ellsworth, shows up in the comments for basically every episode to give his own recollections. It’s super interesting.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

They should do a remake but make the dialogue 100% authentic so that the nastiest words used are "tarnation" or "dang" or "poop"

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Mu Zeta posted:

They should do a remake but make the dialogue 100% authentic so that the nastiest words used are "tarnation" or "dang" or "poop"

Milch said he actually filmed a pilot with period swearing, but when he showed it to a test audience they all laughed at some of the words they said back then. In order to keep the shock value of a lawless mining camp intact, he fuckin' decided to have these cocksuckers swear like fuckin' sailors.

(Also I'm midway through Season 2 of a re-watch. God, Francis Wolcott was just a great villain.)

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

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Troy Queef posted:

Milch said he actually filmed a pilot with period swearing, but when he showed it to a test audience they all laughed at some of the words they said back then. In order to keep the shock value of a lawless mining camp intact, he fuckin' decided to have these cocksuckers swear like fuckin' sailors.

(Also I'm midway through Season 2 of a re-watch. God, Francis Wolcott was just a great villain.)

I really enjoy that actor in everything I’ve seen him in, including T:SCC.

If anyone hasn’t seen The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, I highly recommend!

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Finished 111 and y’all know I rewound Al’s closing monologue to rewatch it like 3 times

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

One of the things I miss most about this show is the fantastic music. And the choices of end credits tunes.

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018

Dan! Dismantle the titty corner and put up a poker table

Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


Troy Queef posted:

Milch said he actually filmed a pilot with period swearing, but when he showed it to a test audience they all laughed at some of the words they said back then. In order to keep the shock value of a lawless mining camp intact, he fuckin' decided to have these cocksuckers swear like fuckin' sailors.

This needs to be a DVD extra post loving haste.


Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

I really enjoy that actor in everything I’ve seen him in, including T:SCC.

If anyone hasn’t seen The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, I highly recommend!

I enjoyed him in Deadwood, Deadwood, T:SCC, T:SCC, and T:SCC myself. He's also the best thing about Fear the Walking Dead (besides Strand).

Tokelau All Star
Feb 23, 2008

THE TAXES! THE FINGER THING MEANS THE TAXES!

LividLiquid posted:

One of the things I miss most about this show is the fantastic music. And the choices of end credits tunes.

The fiddle in the main theme is so good, especially the double stops. Such a rich composition.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Just randomly remembered the "filthy degenerate" who pays each morning to come in and lick some titties before running out of the Gem :xd:

Al posted:

Stand with us here a second... and out the door he'll go, and prompt as a Swiss timepiece three big-titted whores will now emerge from behind that screen. He lines 'em up at two-foot intervals, smock-tops down, and all but sprints past 'em, giving their titties a lick. And if he misses a titty, he does not let himself retrace his steps...And on he goes, on his way home, relieved for the day....Strange, huh, Miles? But something you gotta know about specialists. They pay a premium, and they never cause loving trouble. I sometimes imagine, in my declining years, running a small joint in Manchester, England, catering to specialists exclusively. And to let them know they're amongst their own, maybe I'll operate from the corner, hanging upside-down like a loving bat.

Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Nov 14, 2018

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

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Astroman posted:

This needs to be a DVD extra post loving haste.


I enjoyed him in Deadwood, Deadwood, T:SCC, T:SCC, and T:SCC myself. He's also the best thing about Fear the Walking Dead (besides Strand).

:golfclap:

I watched an episode of Fear just to see him. :hfive:

Jerusalem posted:

Just randomly remembered the "filthy degenerate" who pays each morning to come in and lick some titties before running out of the Gem :xd:

Hey! That guy pays everyday! :clint:

GATOS Y VATOS
Aug 22, 2002


Holy poo poo.

TheOmegaWalrus
Feb 3, 2007

by Hand Knit
If the film doesn't so much as even wink at the titty-corner, I'm storming out the the cocksucking theatre and demanding my cocksucking money back.

Filthy cocksuckers.

TheOmegaWalrus fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Nov 14, 2018

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



Is there any good example of what the actual swearing should have been like in that period? I cant imagine the filthy-mouthed miners being satisfied with "dang" and "tarnation" after watching Deadwood. The fuckin cocksuckin just rolls off their tongues so well it's almost poetic.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Yeah it’d be like tarnation and consarn it and all that

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

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Phenotype posted:

Is there any good example of what the actual swearing should have been like in that period? I cant imagine the filthy-mouthed miners being satisfied with "dang" and "tarnation" after watching Deadwood. The fuckin cocksuckin just rolls off their tongues so well it's almost poetic.

It would have literally been Yosemite Sam: a charicature of a ‘49er!
http://buddiesinthesaddle.blogspot.com/2013/08/old-west-cuss-words.html?m=1

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018

Escobarbarian posted:

Yeah it’d be like tarnation and consarn it and all that

I would think there would be lots of fucks and dicks though. That stuff has been going around since basically the beginning of mankind hahaha

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost
I can't remember the exact episode, but my favorite is Brian Cox delivering an unbelievably dignified "gently caress you, sir!"

Asbury
Mar 23, 2007
Probation
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Hair Elf
Hey, if anyone wants to read through the transcripts: http://turtlegirl76.com/deadwood/indexOLD.htm

edit: from 3x03, one of my favorite scenes that doesn't have Ian McShane - Gerald McRaney's force-of-nature Hearst and Powers Boothe's mewling take on Tolliver's emasculation is loving fantastic:

Cy: I hope you'll take it as measure of my keenness, Sir, and curiosity.
Hearst: Yes, yes, yes, Mr. Tolliver. You wish to know your duties in my service.
Cy: Well, I make my way through the muck to learn the details.
Hearst: Your duties will be to answer like a dog when I call.
Cy: Like a dog?
Hearst: Complications of intention on your part in dealings with me or duplicity or indirection behavior, in short, which displeases me, will bring you a smack on the snout.
Cy: Ouch.
Hearst: When administered by a practiced hand such a blow can be more painful and grievous even than your recent sufferings.
Cy: I don't doubt the hand would be practiced.
Hearst: Mr. Swearengen recently discovered as much.
Cy: I gather it cost him a finger.
Hearst: But I should say too that in these rooms just this afternoon such displeasure brought me near to murdering the Sheriff and raping Mrs. Ellsworth. I have learned through time, Mr. Tolliver, and as repeatedly seem to forget that whatever temporary comfort relieving my displeasure brings me, my long-term interests suffer. My proper traffic is with the earth. In my dealings with people, I ought solely have to do with niggers and whites who obey me like dogs.
Cy: If he hadn't meant me to wag it, Sir, why would the Lord give me a tail?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYDNxaK3W4

Asbury fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Nov 15, 2018

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE

Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

It would have literally been Yosemite Sam: a charicature of a ‘49er!
http://buddiesinthesaddle.blogspot.com/2013/08/old-west-cuss-words.html?m=1

That article is specifically examples of sanitised language in polite company.
The Perambulators and the like might be expected to tone their language down, but folks in a brothel are going to have been throwing around juicier language

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




one of my favorite subtle scenes came in S2E1, when Bullock and The Widow Garret are "consulting" so much that plaster falls off the ceiling in the middle of Sofia's lesson, and Miss Isringhausen, visibly pissed, just brushes it off the table

(sidenote: between Martha "The Borg Queen" Bullock and Skylar White, Anna Gunn really has a knack for being cast as wives that fans don't really like)

Asbury
Mar 23, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 6 years!
Hair Elf

Troy Queef posted:


(sidenote: between Martha "The Borg Queen" Bullock and Skylar White, Anna Gunn really has a knack for being cast as wives that fans don't really like)

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, wasnt Alice Krige (who also starred in Deadwood as Maddie in season 2) the Borg Queen?

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




Farrier Theaks posted:

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, wasnt Alice Krige (who also starred in Deadwood as Maddie in season 2) the Borg Queen?

No, you're right. I think they're just confused. She wasn't some horrific wife in Deadwood either, she married Bullock because it was generally required that a woman with a child have a husband and her brother-in-law was expected to take care of her after her husband died. Neither one was really happy with the whole situation. Didn't help Bullock kept loving the widow Garret either.

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

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seaborgium posted:

No, you're right. I think they're just confused. She wasn't some horrific wife in Deadwood either, she married Bullock because it was generally required that a woman with a child have a husband and her brother-in-law was expected to take care of her after her husband died. Neither one was really happy with the whole situation. Didn't help Bullock kept loving the widow Garret either.

I loved how Al constantly felt the need/duty to reign-in Bullock’s irrationality w/r/t Alma and her myriad problems.
:allears:

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

Tokelau All Star posted:

The fiddle in the main theme is so good, especially the double stops. Such a rich composition.
Absolutely.

Also, I love how the type of music being played determines whether the instrument is a violin or fiddle.

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018

"I ain't learnin some new doc's fuckin quirks" is astounding as a line in how vulgar it is and how sweet it is simultaneously. As much as they poo poo on each other, these people still love each other.

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro

fawning deference posted:

"I ain't learnin some new doc's fuckin quirks" is astounding as a line in how vulgar it is and how sweet it is simultaneously. As much as they poo poo on each other, these people still love each other.

When the preacher died... :smith:

fawning deference
Jul 4, 2018

Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

When the preacher died... :smith:

Doc's monologue right before that scene was unbelievable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMAl2fCYgCQ

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

I'm doing a Deadwood rewatch (in light of the TV movie news) and also happened to watch the X-Files episode "Beyond the Sea" and goddamn, Brad Dourif is up there as one of the most underrated actors. Dude's downright captivating and Cochran is a great character. Seeing him do a quick little dance on his way from one patient to another during Ellsworth and Garret's wedding festivities was a pretty nice moment.

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib

Astroman posted:

New Deadwood...my prayers have been answered



A pity he died the other year.

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



I'm rewatching as well. I love Calamity Jane.

EB: "Be brief!"
Jane: "BE hosed!"

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Quote-Unquote posted:

I'm rewatching as well. I love Calamity Jane.

EB: "Be brief!"
Jane: "BE hosed!"

It's a real shame that, as far as I can tell, no one's really used Robin Weigert to her full potential, outside of Deadwood.

She's fantastic as Jane. She was criminally underused in Sons of Anarchy, but then again, gently caress that show. :colbert:

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Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
She was good in Dietland this year but it got cancelled

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