Jerusalem posted:

Make the show two hours maximum you cowards. You worms. You maggots.

Blaise330 posted:

24 hour show where you still get less than 10 minutes of breezango and Rusev.

I miss Fandango

Chris James 2 posted:

Sydney Bottocks posted:

Disney fired the guy behind Guardians of the Galaxy (one of their biggest, most unexpected MCU hits) because Internet Nazis complained about his tasteless Twitter jokes. Disney also gave complete control of The Last Jedi to a guy who proceeded to piss off both hardcore fans AND casual viewers with it, and they also made the first ever flop movie in SW history, namely the Han Solo origin film. They may not be addled by years of steroid and cocaine abuse, but I don't think the people running Disney are necessarily super smart and highly competent, either.

The Cameo posted:

The first flop in the Star Wars franchise was the Clone Wars CG movie, which was full out Star Wars, title crawl and all. Released by Warner Bros., though, and I wonder what sort of legal entanglement that got into when Disney bought the whole damned thing.


Not really, they figured it wouldn’t perform like it did and was going to be carried by the Marvel brand if it made good money at all - which also all went away once the “Hooked On A Feeling” trailer dropped, they knew they were going to probably cover the production budget by the second weekend.

And, as for what happened to John Carter: they let the beginning of the marketing cycle be handled by Andrew Stanton, who I guess assumed he was as good at advertising his movie as David Fincher is with his*, giving them a lackluster first impression as Stanton concentrated on the atmosphere of the Mars setting for some reason in his early choices and cuts for ads and absolutely nobody cared.

Then they took the marketing reigns from him and began to reconfigure the strategy, when in the middle of all that, George Lucas approaches Disney with an offer: buy Lucasfilm, get Star Wars, Indiana Jones, ILM, THX, Skywalker Sound, the Ranch, all that toy money (oh my god the toy money), just come up with a fair price for it. Of course Disney is going to throw down as much cash as possible for it, which means the moment they sign the deal and the lawyers OK it, Star Wars is priority A-1. And so the deal goes through fast, and John Carter is looked at as a write-off in comparison to the $4 billion purchase they just made, so no strategy is ever cemented and marketing never really ratchets up in the late days before release. John Carter, which Stanton wanted to at least be called John Carter of Mars (even though the best title is obvious: John Carter and The Princess of Mars), but was cut off because Disney had the Imagemover-killing Mars Needs Moms blow up in their face around a year prior, came and went like a fart in the wind.

There’s a good book on the whole saga of trying to get John Carter of Mars to the screen: John Carter and The Gods of Hollywood. It’s a bit clearly biased (as the author’s bonafides as a fan of the character are, uh, very well established within a few chapters, so he’s coming from that angle and not an interested, but detached, third party) in how it’s written, but it kinda enhances the tragedy as the elephant in the sci-fi genre slams right through this old-timey adventure yarn pulp story that the elephant itself pilfered from constantly.

* as Fincher basically controls advertising on everything he does, which was a big deal when Sony let him have it for a $100 million movie and the first thing he did was do a photo shoot with his two leads with the female lead topless, and print up a full order of posters off of that image before showing Sony so they would have to ship them out - but at the same time, Fincher has a degree of trust because he’s directed, y’know, hundreds of commercials, a lot of them successful for the client, so he’s shown he understands how to market a product

anyway, yeah, wwe

Sydney Bottocks posted:

His torso looking all :-/

Andrast posted:

what are you talking about, she was totally unrecognizable