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Playing at ffggc and it's super hard to not just buy more decks 
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Nov 16, 2018 02:50
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IcePhoenix posted:Playing at ffggc and it's super hard to not just buy more decks  I opened one of my decks and I'm going to save the rest until I have a chance to play with them.
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Nov 16, 2018 02:55
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My FLGS didn't have any start sets either. Everything they got in went to pre-orders, so I just grabbed a deck. Luckily, I don't really need the tokens, since I have: A. A 3D printer and B. Shitloads of tokens leftover from X-Wing 1.0 I can just use for this.
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Nov 16, 2018 03:06
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I grabbed a starter and two extra decks. So did most of my friends that are interested in trying the game. We’re gonna get together and open them tomorrow. Hoping for some good deck names more than anything else. 
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Nov 16, 2018 04:29
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Got to play a couple games tonight with a friend that got a starter and a couple sealed decks. I'll play it some more. But the starter set doesn't feel like something I want to invest in when I can just find other tokens.
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Nov 16, 2018 04:39
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ZorajitZorajit posted:Got to play a couple games tonight with a friend that got a starter and a couple sealed decks. I'll play it some more. But the starter set doesn't feel like something I want to invest in when I can just find other tokens. This: the tokens and doohickies are nothing to get hung up about, just make your own tokens. You only need a deck, something to mark amber (like gems or beads), something to mark keys, and some wound tokens. You might need some other special marks for other powers, but you should know that before you take your deck out for a game.
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Nov 16, 2018 05:17
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Picked up one deck each for my gf and I since our game shop was also sold out on starters, used tokens from Netrunner ( ) and they worked just fine.There's some weird poo poo in this game, I kind of love it. Her deck was mostly about blowing poo poo up and getting amber while doing so, so she almost never had any creatures out - which made a lot of my cards (which gained bonuses on fighting) worthless, since there was nothing to fight. However, I had some cards that gain bonuses when healing so I used some direct damage cards on my own units in order to heal them up for other bonuses. Eventually I wound up with four dudes out at once that contained a built-in heal engine, and her nukes couldn't keep up with me reaping 4 times every turn and I snagged the win. Game is real good. Only thing I don't understand is the card Tunk, which is originally a Mars creature but I got it out of faction? Anyways, it gains an effect when I play other Mars creatures, which my deck contains none of. Feels a little weird that they didn't change the card's text to match its current house.
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Nov 16, 2018 05:33
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CodfishCartographer posted:Picked up one deck each for my gf and I since our game shop was also sold out on starters, used tokens from Netrunner ( I searched for "KeyForge Tunk" on Google and it led me to this Reddit post where I gathered that occasionally you can find a "Maverick" (house-swapped) card in your decks. But yeah Tunk is just a vanilla 6/1 without any other Mars creatures.
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Nov 16, 2018 05:51
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Welp, I guess a 6/1 isn't the worst thing in the world, especially considering the deck likes fighting quite a bit. Still a little disappointing, but whatever, more reason to buy more decks
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Nov 16, 2018 06:00
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Of the two decks I bought, I think one definitely beats the other. I guess this is where chains come in handy to keep things interesting.
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Nov 16, 2018 06:30
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Somberbrero posted:I hopped on Alliance to order some more starters for my store since we sold out of our 8 today, and they're completely out of stock. Thanks Fantasy Flight. I was on FFG’s own site looking at the rules document (largely unhelpful as always) and noticed they’re out of archon decks. Seems like they continue to underprint.
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Nov 16, 2018 07:24
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So CSI is cracking decks and posting the card list with prices going up to $200 https://www.coolstuffinc.com/sq/1536640&page=1
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Nov 16, 2018 08:59
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IcePhoenix posted:Playing at ffggc and it's super hard to not just buy more decks Inorite. I got my second, promising myself that would be it except sealed formats. Turns out it shares a house and plays very similarly to my first. It was super difficult not to get a third but I prevailed. Also, people are going bugfuck crazy over Horsemen and yeah, they're good with the righ support but they're not worth hundreds in and of themselves JFC. I will never understand people who have enough ready cash to spend two hundred loving dollars on one deck of cards.
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Nov 16, 2018 11:12
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FFG always, purposefully, underprints their first run which is annoying mostly when they can't fill their preorders. We had like 30 aGoT2e cores ordered and we got 12. They usually have the second wave out within a couple months but not being able to even fully use the product because not everyone has it for those first first months is a real bitch. Friend of mine that's a retailer in Singapore was saying that some people came in to his store with just the decks and wanted to borrow dice and stuff to use as tokens and he was complaining that they didn't want to buy the starter, but I think that's really FFGs fault and is there's a shortage of starters then this problem is going to get worse.
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Nov 16, 2018 11:51
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Bottom Liner posted:So CSI is cracking decks and posting the card list with prices going up to $200 I'm honestly curious how they're deciding that some decks are worth $12 and some are worth $200. At a glance, it looks like it's based on how many "special" cards are in the deck, which seems like a really dumb way of deciding it (Gee, this one has a maverick in it! It must be worth more, ignoring that out-of-faction Tunk is little more than a 6/1 vanilla creature!)
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Nov 16, 2018 11:55
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People are being *really* dumb about valuing this game, they're treating it like it's a standard CCG where card rarity matters.
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Nov 16, 2018 12:49
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Bottom Liner posted:So CSI is cracking decks and posting the card list with prices going up to $200 None of those are tier 1 funny names but there’s some decent ones...and they’re all at the $12 level. I think the farmer of racism and wang the easily bruised are easily $200 decks if the game is popular.
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Nov 16, 2018 13:08
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Chill la Chill posted:None of those are tier 1 funny names but there’s some decent ones...and they’re all at the $12 level. I think the farmer of racism and wang the easily bruised are easily $200 decks if the game is popular. Yeah, I was there when my friend pulled Wang. It was glorious. Decent enough cards too, though I haven't looked at Mars enough to know if they work well together. Still debating if I want to snag a starter set or pimp the game out a bit and get all custom tokens. At least the starter comes with two random decks so isn't bad value.
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Nov 16, 2018 13:23
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LordAba posted:Yeah, I was there when my friend pulled Wang. It was glorious. Decent enough cards too, though I haven't looked at Mars enough to know if they work well together. Buy custom tokens. The starter set ones are uggo and that's basicalyl all you're buying it for. You can get a whole lot of custom tokens and two decks for the cost of the starter. If you can even find the loving starter.
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Nov 16, 2018 13:39
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Apparently you can open the box and look at the deck list and then close the box. Why FFG allowed this is WTF but maybe they were naive in believing that players would consider all deck 'equal'. It feels like MTG in a way all over again when you could look at the top of the packs and see the rares.
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Nov 16, 2018 13:54
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thespaceinvader posted:Buy custom tokens. The starter set ones are uggo and that's basicalyl all you're buying it for. You can get a whole lot of custom tokens and two decks for the cost of the starter. If you can even find the loving starter. Which you can't and they are being sold at inflated prices. Why do I have this deja vu feeling????
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Nov 16, 2018 13:55
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Mayveena posted:Apparently you can open the box and look at the deck list and then close the box. Why FFG allowed this is WTF but maybe they were naive in believing that players would consider all deck 'equal'. It feels like MTG in a way all over again when you could look at the top of the packs and see the rares. The boxes are glued closed, this is bullshit.
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Nov 16, 2018 14:20
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thespaceinvader posted:The boxes are glued closed, this is bullshit. From Reddit: "It does seem like a gigantic blunder to put the decklist cards on the end of the deck so that you can see it without breaking the seal. This makes it trivially easy for less scrupulous retailers to open up the deck boxes and check for the good ones to sell at marked up prices." I've opened my boxes so I can't try this but I've seen this mentioned in other places as well. Mayveena fucked around with this message at 14:44 on Nov 16, 2018 |
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Nov 16, 2018 14:42
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I had bought the starter set and 2 booster decks and I'm just a bit disappointed that none of the decks had the Mars faction, so I only have 6 out of the 7 factions with 6 decks. I might just have to pick up an opened deck from CSI with Mars if I want a guaranteed one.
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Nov 16, 2018 14:51
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Wife and I played last night with the 2 decks we bought. I know we go t a few minor rules wrong, but even so, I got destroyed. Either my deck sucks, or I didn't figure out how to play it. probably that second one. She killed most of my creatures on her turn after I got them out, so I never really go to use them for anything. We'll have to try again and see how it goes. I think my main complaint was a lack of counters during your opponents turn. I just had to sit there and watch my creatures get killed off.
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Nov 16, 2018 15:17
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I reserved a starter and 2 decks from my LGS after I heard the news the game sold out at FFG store. Seems that the store is starting to run low on starters as well. I was planning to skip this, but after someone mentioned it has the euro solitaire vibe I got interested. It seems like a nice change from super intensive card games and I think I can hook some players who normally don't go for card games. Excited to try it out!
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Nov 16, 2018 15:18
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I'm an impulsive gently caress so I bought 2 decks last week at the pre-release, then yesterday I picked up the starter set and 2 more decks. It's probably "new game hype" but I'm having a ton of fun with it so far; played 3 or 4 games maybe? Cardboard tokens are definitely gently caress ugly; I think I'm just going to buy red and yellow glass beads. I like whoever it was on the other page that had literal keys - I might try to find something like that and then spray paint one side gold and one side silver to indicate Forged / Unforged maybe? And as was discussed on the first page; a lot of the promotional art for the game is very unappealing to me, but I like a lot of the actual card art that I've seen. Mars, Untamed, and Dis are all pretty cool looking anyways. Brobnar is hit or miss and Sanctum is dumb  I think this card epitomizes the type of artwork I don't like for the game:  It's just so... "chibi" looking This however, is pretty cool: 
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Nov 16, 2018 15:29
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Mayveena posted:From Reddit: You absolutely cannot see the card list without ripping the box or breaking the glue, this is total bullshit. e: your quote seems to be talking about the decklist being the top card, so retailers can open boxes, look at it without opening the deck cellophane, and glue it back shut. Uh....I don't think that is going to be a huge problem here, that seems like pretty needless paranoia for a game that came out literally yesterday. Rockman Reserve fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Nov 16, 2018 |
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Nov 16, 2018 15:43
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food court bailiff posted:Uh....I don't think that is going to be a huge problem here, that seems like pretty needless paranoia for a game that came out literally yesterday. Are you accusing internet nerds of preemptively overreacting and being angry over literally nothing? I don't believe it 
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Nov 16, 2018 15:49
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Sab669 posted:Are you accusing internet nerds of preemptively overreacting and being angry over literally nothing? I don't believe it It's just funny, out of FFG's entire product line this is pretty much the only thing that uses a glued-shut box instead of a resealable clamshell or tuckbox. It's not like FFG hasn't hosed up plenty of real things to be annoyed about.
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Nov 16, 2018 15:53
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Mayveena posted:From Reddit: The plastic seal inside the cardboard box leaves the decklist visible, but the implication i took from your post was that you could open it, check it, and return it, which I very much doubt you could do.
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Nov 16, 2018 15:57
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Hey guys, our deck analyzer is now live. https://burgertokens.com/pages/keyforge-deck-analyzer Punch in your deck name and receive a breakdown of your deck: creatures, artifacts, aember generation, aoe removal, capture, etc. It's pretty neat. Let me know what you think.
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Nov 16, 2018 15:58
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It definitely sounds like someone is assuming that FFG is using their normal clamshell packs and not something that is fully sealed and obvious when it's been opened. Am I missing something?
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Nov 16, 2018 16:00
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food court bailiff posted:It's not like FFG hasn't hosed up plenty of real things to be annoyed about. Honestly the only other FFG game I've ever played before was Dust, so I'm not particularly familiar with any past blunders. But yea it seems like you'd need to go to some length to open a box, look at the houses/deck, and reseal the box. Maybe they should've put the Deck List so it isn't facing outward, but I really don't think it'll be any big issue 
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Nov 16, 2018 16:24
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thespaceinvader posted:The plastic seal inside the cardboard box leaves the decklist visible, but the implication i took from your post was that you could open it, check it, and return it, which I very much doubt you could do. Yeah, thus the quote. Folks the game is going to be a game where people are going to want to buy the best decks. Frankly if you have a deck with a Maverick in it, try throwing it up on eBay with a $10 opener. That should work for at least a week and maybe longer. What’s really going to be interesting is what happens when wins are posted to the app.
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Nov 16, 2018 16:26
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I remember some people here trying to figure out what they’d do about chains, and this etsy page has the best idea I’ve seen for tracking them so far - a dial. The keys on this page are also some of the nicest custom keys I’ve seen. the other tokens are alright but nothing to really write home about, except maybe the armor tokens since armor seems like something easy to lose track of and why did FFG not include them in the first place?
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Nov 16, 2018 17:48
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As a weird side note it is really annoying that the Stun and +1 power cards are actually full-size and not mini-cards.
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Nov 16, 2018 17:57
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food court bailiff posted:As a weird side note it is really annoying that the Stun and +1 power cards are actually full-size and not mini-cards. I think we are going to use disks for those, not sure why they were full size cards.
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Nov 16, 2018 18:06
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Does a +1 power token give a corresponding increase in life?
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Nov 16, 2018 18:08
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food court bailiff posted:Does a +1 power token give a corresponding increase in life? If its lost and the creature's power goes to zero the creature is dead. There is no such game thing as 'life'. Everything is power.
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Nov 16, 2018 18:11
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