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Mormon Star Wars
Aug 13, 2005
It's a minotaur race...

The "Timorous Deep" zone from Everquest 2's expansion "Rise of Kunark" is a blatantly obvious commentary on the Israel-Palestine conflict. So obvious that I am astounded that it get published.

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

I'd also like to note that Fallout: New Vegas is a pretty sophisticated game about political ideology, where the main bad guy even teaches you about Hegelian dialectics. It's even possible to completely negate the theses of the main three powers by just giving the people the power to rule themselves.

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

Uranium posted:

must we relitigate the debate over whether or not games are good actually?

Video games are rightfully haram for stealing time that should be spent serving our L*rd Allah

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

lol if u didnt murder caesar, kimbal, and house on your first playthrough. Wildcard bitches, Followers or bust

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

my favorite "got em" line i've been seeing in comment sections of any supposedly leftist game is "of course they charge money for this :smug:"

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Fuligin posted:

lol if u didnt murder caesar, kimbal, and house on your first playthrough. Wildcard bitches, Followers or bust

I know a guy from Singapore who thought Mr. House was the best ending, and it's too obvious that Mr. House is just his Lee Kuan Yew.

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I'd also like to note that Fallout: New Vegas is a pretty sophisticated game about political ideology, where the main bad guy even teaches you about Hegelian dialectics. It's even possible to completely negate the theses of the main three powers by just giving the people yourself the power to rule themselves.

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Zeroisanumber posted:

Local Microsoft store has about 20 high end gaming computers loaded up with Fortnite that anyone under 15 can come in and play with for free any day of the week.

Buncha poor kids monopolize them every single day and have a schedule written up for who relieves who when someone needs to eat or get a bathroom break.

When I found out about it I nearly started to cry.

that's the power of socialism comrade

ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was


Smellrose
i'm one of the like 30 people that bought it but Phantom Doctrine is a spy-fi xcom-ish game set in the 1980s and you can play as a KGB agent and recruit all sorts of psychos from the stasi, op gladio, savak etc to do hella intelligence agency crimes all over the world. not a bad game but is lolworthy overpriced at $40. grab it on sale, maybe

Captain Billy Pissboy
Oct 25, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice
ive been working on a game that i think is pretty cspam

its vaguely based on xcom apocalypse but focused solely on the 'political simulation' part that was mostly dropped from that game. the basic idea is that a utopian communist city state after the climate apocalypse is being infiltrated by capitalist aliens. you play a leader in a covert organization devoted to revealing and defeating the aliens. the gameplay revolves around manipulating political and social relations between citizens to your advantage. like, in order to get weapons youd need to convince or manipulate someone inside the military into giving them. your org needs to remain covert, at least in the early stages, because the aliens have infiltrated people and organizations throughout the city

the early and mid game would involve infiltrating orgs and trying to convince people in positions of power of the threat while not being exposed. youd be able to send agents on sabotage and spying missions or straight up paramilitary raids. part of the challenge would be doing what you have to without causing the society to regress from communism

some other ideas:
  • the aliens give the remnants of silicon valley advanced tech which they use to build a laputan flying city. they fly the city around conquering other peoples and forcing them to build useless devices. you can cause the city to crash by convincing them that no one actually wants their useless poo poo

  • you could be like an interplanetary iww and infiltrate alien factory worlds to organize and radicalize the alien proles into fighting a class war

  • at some point the aliens deploy bioweapons that turn people into violent monsters who go around eating people and establishing markets by force

  • if the aliens infiltrate the media they fill it with liberal op-ed columnists who try to 'both sides' the resistance and the aliens

i know a lot of this sounds meme-y but im mostly focused on the political simulation. i hope to make it deep enough to create a realistic 'artificial society' that will be fun to mess with

jimmyjams
Jan 10, 2001


King Kong of Megadongs
Gobblin' them mega schlongs
Makin' sure they mega long
Stroke' 'em if they mega strong
you can actually make a loving functional democratic socialist worker's state in tropico 1

make a big industry that makes a poo poo ton of money, like a ton of rum distilleries or gold/jewelry factories or something. then pour all that money into high rear end wages for everyone on the island. as long as you pay like 2-3x the "carribbean average wage" for every job the people vote you back into office over and over

Ora Tzo
Feb 26, 2016

HEEEERES TONYYYY

Captain Billy Pissboy posted:

ive been working on a game that i think is pretty cspam
i know a lot of this sounds meme-y but im mostly focused on the political simulation. i hope to make it deep enough to create a realistic 'artificial society' that will be fun to mess with

Sounds like a sci fi version of the fantasy evil subversion game people have been attempting to make. That which sleeps, infiltration and shadows behind the throne.

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

how could you make something like harvest moon/stardew valley but communist

Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Uncle Wemus posted:

how could you make something like harvest moon/stardew valley but communist

It has to be multiplayer and you must work together to get to the bottom of the mine

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene
unfortunately i dont have a way to play mgs1 but im replaying mgs2 for the first time since the aughts and its woke as hell and way ahead of its time. ive never played snake eater start to finish but im gonna do that next. the games are surprisingly explicitly condemnatory of american militarism and the defense industry for blockbuster first party titles.

Captain Billy Pissboy
Oct 25, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Uncle Wemus posted:

how could you make something like harvest moon/stardew valley but communist

you could make a game about communist pioneers founding a new city. a 'central planning bureau' off screen in the capital would set quotas for certain goods. the players have to cooperate to develop the land in order to meet the quota. as the town grows new citizen npcs would be sent that provide new services and perform tedious tasks. the players democratically decide how to allocate surplus goods. do you use the extra materials to build another mine or a factory?

the early game involves building small shacks and plowing fields. near the end youre helping manage a small city focused around a few industries

the challenge would come from natural disasters, each player wanting different things, and the capital demanding more and more in order to fight off the fascists.

Ora Tzo posted:

Sounds like a sci fi version of the fantasy evil subversion game people have been attempting to make. That which sleeps, infiltration and shadows behind the throne.

that which sleeps seems pretty close to what im aiming for. i hope to model the society and production in enough detail that the city adapts to crises reasonably. like, the aliens sabotage food production and rationing is enforced. this leads to street violence and factionalism until theyre able to develop new sources.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Banished has some cool elements like that

Whorelord
May 1, 2013

Jump into the well...

dagoth ur was nazbol

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Captain Billy Pissboy posted:

you could make a game about communist pioneers founding a new city. a 'central planning bureau' off screen in the capital would set quotas for certain goods. the players have to cooperate to develop the land in order to meet the quota. as the town grows new citizen npcs would be sent that provide new services and perform tedious tasks. the players democratically decide how to allocate surplus goods. do you use the extra materials to build another mine or a factory?

the early game involves building small shacks and plowing fields. near the end youre helping manage a small city focused around a few industries

the challenge would come from natural disasters, each player wanting different things, and the capital demanding more and more in order to fight off the fascists.


that which sleeps seems pretty close to what im aiming for. i hope to model the society and production in enough detail that the city adapts to crises reasonably. like, the aliens sabotage food production and rationing is enforced. this leads to street violence and factionalism until theyre able to develop new sources.

this sounds a lot like Frostpunk for some reason

Bear Retrieval Unit
Nov 5, 2009

Mudslide Experiment
My favorite political game is Don't poo poo Your Pants, in which you go through the struggles of the US president and come to understand the difficult choices he has to make.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
hosed up that there is zero mention of Shadow President anywhere in these past two pages, which allows you to simulate the true goal of Marxism-Leninism: the nuclear obliteration of Israel.

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.
It’s been too long since I played it to be specific, but The Surge is a relevant CSPAM game in light of Amazon seeking to conquer the world. It takes place in a resource-scarce future where Not Amazon control everything from household products to a cutting-edge research project that they believe will save the planet. This doesn’t work out for reasons I won’t go into and you explore the trendy headquarters where demented cyborg workers — the victims of the project’s failure — stalk the offices and warehouses in murderous rage.

What it’s really good at is presenting an eerie endpoint to the ways major companies pervade the lives of workers. Why not sleep at work? Why not take a vacation at our very own Not Amazon theme park? Why not have mechanical limbs attached to your body to improve efficiency? The madness of the workers is explained by a simple plot device, but in a metaphorical sense it’s also a sort of mass case of going postal in face of horrible business practices.

It’s also a good take on Dark Souls gameplay. Much better than Lords of the Fallen.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I'd also like to note that Fallout: New Vegas is a pretty sophisticated game about political ideology, where the main bad guy even teaches you about Hegelian dialectics. It's even possible to completely negate the theses of the main three powers by just giving the people the power to rule themselves.

New Vegas is pretty much the definition of "making the best of things," not only in terms of story and background but also gameplay and mechanics considering the Fallout 3 architecture they were building on. No accident it's the best of the modern Fallouts by a considerable margin.

Also, Old World Blues is still one of the best dark farces of all time

Obliterati
Nov 13, 2012

Pain is inevitable.
Suffering is optional.
Thunderdome is forever.
This is clearly the place to note that Hearts of Iron IV is a tankie because the Soviets are essentially forced into the Purge by those blasted... rebellious Trots?!?!

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
:sax:

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene
sniper wolf is ypg

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

FF7 owns because you start the game playing as a group of dirt-poor environmentalist revolutionaries fighting to tear down an evil, omnipotent corporation, and the game always presents you as in the right for this up to the very end. The main villains of the game are all representative of the excesses of liberalism, being a scientist with no ethics or respect for human life, who obviously is inspired by concentration camp doctors, a soldier who has been raised from birth on master race ideology, and a shapeshifting space alien who lives only to consume. All are ultimately defeated when the entire planet, not just the protagonists, unites against them.

cid is an abusive boyfriend, yuffie is literal royalty, barret goes on to be an oil corporation executive in advent children :whitewater:

Chillgamesh has issued a correction as of 15:58 on Nov 21, 2018

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

Victory Position posted:

this sounds a lot like Frostpunk for some reason

i was gonna bring up Frostpunk because it is very good and the only city builder/strategy game I've even seen with like, a strict work day and labor laws and such. there's even an event where your workers can unionize and this makes the building they're working in more productive

also you can build a bunch of steampunk robots and have fully automated luxury communism

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I know a guy from Singapore who thought Mr. House was the best ending, and it's too obvious that Mr. House is just his Lee Kuan Yew.

I'll admit House suckered me in once with his 100-year Plans and smooth Odo voice

Avirosb
Nov 21, 2016

Everyone makes pisstakes
His robot did save the player character's life.

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Autism Sneaks posted:

I'll admit House suckered me in once with his 100-year Plans and smooth Odo voice

Same except every time really. Plus "The House Always Wins" is a cool questchain name.

double negative
Jul 7, 2003


just got the mission to kill some PAMPERED SOCIALITES in hitman 2, and gotta say it’s a really fun, replayable game. level design on another level.

sword_man.gif
Apr 12, 2007

Fun Shoe

double negative posted:

just got the mission to kill some PAMPERED SOCIALITES in hitman 2, and gotta say it’s a really fun, replayable game. level design on another level.

it is very satisfying on a primal level to stalk a super rich shithead and throw a car battery into his skull in that game

upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

teaming up with the indentured half-orcs and murdering every rich gently caress in tarant taught me class warfare will always be a good thing.

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

I like Wolfenstein, is good game about simple pleasure of killing Nazi

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

also shoutout to Dishonored where despite nominally working to restore a monarchy you mostly cooperate with revolutionaries to murder industrialists, aristocrats, and Inquisition psychos

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Factorio is like a Soviet Union simulator in that you utterly annihilate the environment to launch rockets for no real reason

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

the bitcoin of weed posted:

i was gonna bring up Frostpunk because it is very good and the only city builder/strategy game I've even seen with like, a strict work day and labor laws and such. there's even an event where your workers can unionize and this makes the building they're working in more productive

also you can build a bunch of steampunk robots and have fully automated luxury communism

i like the game

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
rising storm 2 is the best game to play if you want to shoot americans and press a button to yell things like I KILL YOU GI. GI: I KILL YOU!!!


rocket league is fun cuz car soccer :]

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Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Obliterati posted:

This is clearly the place to note that Hearts of Iron IV is a tankie because the Soviets are essentially forced into the Purge by those blasted... rebellious Trots?!?!

trotsky is a better leader though

here's my first attempt at a nazi killing speedrun, its biggest flaw is I didn't go communist as well:

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