She-Ra and the Princesses of Power: For the Honor of Gayskull

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Ups_rail: Dec 8, 2006; Bestselling author of
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so I remember youtube being filled with people making GBS threads on the promo or trailer for this show, now that its out ( I don't have NF anymore) is there still reeeing about it or did it all go away.

Happy to hear its good.

# ¿ Dec 18, 2018 02:08

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# ¿ Mar 29, 2023 23:33

Ups_rail: Dec 8, 2006; Bestselling author of
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Oh okay I run ad block and don't sign into my google account for youtube

So the algorithm is really weird for me. I just haven't seen anymore videos lovely on She Ra and I was surprised to see the show is out.

# ¿ Dec 18, 2018 04:56

Ups_rail: Dec 8, 2006; Bestselling author of
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Eh this show is alittle odd. I feel like theirs too many characters but the only one that is compelling is you guessed it catra.

I wonder how much is somewhat janky writing and the other budget issues the hordak just breaking character to explain stuff was weird and he just doesnt come off as a threat how does he keep the frightzone in line?

Still look forward to see what happens next.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2019 14:08

Ups_rail: Dec 8, 2006; Bestselling author of
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The Bee posted:

I'd say Scorpia and the main heroes are tropey yet enjoyable and have potential, Catra, Entrapta, and surprisingly Hordak are legit interesting, and the Princess Alliance feels like a leftover element of the show that gets increasingly pushed into the background to make room for the two trios that actually matter.

You make a good point now that we know hordak s back story. I think the setting would fit better if you had less of a resistance hold out. and more a waring states political set up with conquered states and collaborators. Hell Shadow weaver, Scorpia, Entrapta all kinda fit that description. But gently caress I am 40 year old goons and its a kids cartoon.

Also its interesting that Adora/She-ra are not that interesting.

# ¿ Aug 10, 2019 02:29

Ups_rail: Dec 8, 2006; Bestselling author of
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The Bee posted:

There's plenty of doubt in the Princess Alliance as a unit, and even civilians like Bow's parents don't seem exceptionally concerned about the Horde. It honestly feels less like the Horde controls the entire world, and more like they're a slightly unpleasant kingdom that is kept in check but constantly pushing its luck.

It feels like the show was originally going to be almost like a magical girl team-up show, but shifted gears hard after the fact.

fair point I have vauge memories of the original show which was vastly different than this

But it was more a rebels hiding int he woods kinda stuff.

# ¿ Aug 10, 2019 09:34

Ups_rail: Dec 8, 2006; Bestselling author of
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Ups_rail fucked around with this message at 07:59 on Aug 11, 2019

# ¿ Aug 11, 2019 07:49

Ups_rail: Dec 8, 2006; Bestselling author of
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That first episode of season 4 really hit me in the gut, I've suffered the same loss as her, and when people pretend some one does/didnt exist. yeah

# ¿ Nov 6, 2019 04:25

Ups_rail: Dec 8, 2006; Bestselling author of
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Next you ll tell me none of that yonic phallic stuff is just shapes in the movie alien

# ¿ Nov 6, 2019 18:24

Ups_rail: Dec 8, 2006; Bestselling author of
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Mercury Hat posted:

They don't really care about the original cartoons, they're just mad at how society and the dialogue around race, gender, and sex is changing around them and the cartoons being redesigned from the originals is an easy candy-colored example to point to.

Like, correct me if I'm wrong, but there wasn't nearly so much vocal outrage over, say, the Ducktales reboot giving female characters expanded roles or making Fenton explicitly Latino because they weren't humans and you couldn't point to the differences as easily. And I'd say way more people were fans of the original Ducktales and genuinely like it as adults than ever cared about He-Man.

I wont name the youtube channels since goons in other threads get offended but I assume since I watched the he man trailer and they remix of "I need a hero" I got blasted with 2 "nerd outrage channels" in my recomended page.

Kevin Smith just loving gave these rear end in a top hat everything they wanted which is engagement and youtube bucks.

The dream works she ra show. honestly there are parts of it that resonate with me, namely the deeper issues between catra adora and shadwo weaver, and double trouble was just fun!

Other stuff didnt really speak to me and the ending felt rushed. but still I havent rewatched the (and dont really plan on going back ether) and I still think it had depth.

I m gonna watch the revelation show but all the loving screeching by so called fans of the original show (which come on it wasnt that good) and lets face it the original fans are like late 30's early 40's Why are they crying about this?

I m almost want some stupid grifting media company to come out and say "hey were gonna give you what you say you want here is childrens cartoon that checks off all your complants"

# ¿ Jul 23, 2021 11:13

Ups_rail: Dec 8, 2006; Bestselling author of
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Spacedad posted:

Not even that. I don't think these people even know what they want.

If it was more like the original, it would have also been seen as 'too woke' and 'virtue signaling' too because...well. Just look:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBqEgnyb68o

If things were too edgy, they would have complained it is too edgy. If things set up surprisingly mature emotional stakes that don't give the easy fanservice answer, it's 'woke.'

What possible form could this have taken that wouldn't have resulted in some kind of backlash from these bozos.

The only thing I can think of is if they basically just made a really boring dungeon crawl with pretty animation, but no serious conflict or emotional stakes. Which could still potentially invite backlash for being too shallow.

That's the problem with the fandom menace mob - if you want to make meaningful work or a take that isn't just shallow fanservice specifically aimed at 'pleasing the fandom menace' types, there's not really any pleasing them. They want to feel like THEIR subset is being pandered to - even though their tastes are inherently contradictory to what they object to. (Also, remember that these are the same morons who even turned on Zack Snyder after he trashed them for being toxic philistine reactionaries.) Any work whose creators aren't going out of their way to court and pander to them and their antiwoke narrative specifically is going to invite their backlash no matter what it does.

That's why there's no pleasing them. They're going to rage no matter what - and the fandom menace clickbait youtubers who have built careers out of that outrage have a monetary incentive to be as negative as possible. That's also why their lovely opinions are irrelevant.

It just sucks that they are going to make a lot of negative noise on social media that is outsize to their actual very-niche size.

amen brother.

one huuge red flag is that they keep making GBS threads out videos about this. rather than say take 48 hours and put together a well edited "commentary" but loving kevin smith interacted with them on twitter and they ve been taking mother loving victory laps for days now.

To be clear I remember watching heman on USA cartoon express back in the mother frucking 1990s anyone who was into that poo poo when it first aired in like 1982 would have been born in the loving 1970s

As much as I think its rude to poo poo on the people you wish to entertain I wouldnt make a loving netflix cartoon for 50 year old men.

In short people like clown fish should have a like/disk like rule, as in for everyvideo where they poo poo on something for being "woke" they have to make a video about something they like.

As for the show, it didnt work for me. The pacing felt odd and the VA for skeletor didnt really sell it to me. but again its not some yuuuge sin against 80's kids.

# ¿ Jul 26, 2021 09:17

Ups_rail: Dec 8, 2006; Bestselling author of
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Neo Rasa posted:

He-Man was basically my religion when I was a young kid, I watched the cartoons obsessively and had a ton of hand-me-down toys and sets because while I was born in 81 the cartoon was still on TV throughout the 80s and I had two older brothers that were into it when they were a little younger so the toys were in my hands since as long as I could remember. All my fellow kids were into it too and our elementary school even had this giant poster of He-Man with a speech balloon they'd change out to say like "I HAAAVE THE POOOWWER....to [thing obedient good kids should do]!" And I was even into She-Ra also because it was more people with magic weapons battling robot skeleton wizard monster poo poo fuuuuuuck yessssss

I hadn't really thought about it much since beyond laughing at Skeletor/He-Man memes, but that poo poo was always awesome to me. And I think it definitely contributed to me getting into fantasy and sci-fi stuff in general as I got older too.

So I figured they were going for pure campiness when I saw the trailers for this one which is fine. What little we saw of the new She-Ra was really really good so we gave this a chance and it just immediately grabbed us.

I really like how it leaned into the weird sci-fi/fantasy mix and sort of dark fantasy territory setting and all those other elements that were kinda sorta in the cartoon but not really while still having tons of stupid puns. Especially the way the second episode opened up and the way Tri-Klops was rolling around almost gave me like a Book of the New Sun vibe. Like they just did such a fantastic job taking all of the exact stuff and basic characterization there was in the old cartoon and actually moving it forward well without actually losing anything from the original. Genuinely impressive stuff.

It would have been really easy to fall into the trap of making this too dark or boring but they struck a perfect balance with it, and it was so awesome to see characters like Orko especially actually move forward. And it was really cool how they made use of so many of the unused/little used figures and concepts to do that and to deal with questions we had as a kid like whey doesn't Adam just tell Teela that he's He-Man and so on.

I remember a lot of the figures I had were basically figure-only characters that never actually appeared in the cartoon and always watching it thinking "okay maybe ____ will actually show up now," so it was even a great treat to see some of those show up in the show especially the legendary Scare Glow AND he's voiced by Tony Todd? I remember seeing ads for the figure but never had one myself I mean it's a big skeleton dude and it glows in the dark! Like even just seeing the ads made it stick in my mind That was almost a cooler than the Preternia stuff.

I like how the Andra character is written like she's totally going to be a future champion too with her often being the pun-maker and doing a lot of the sudden corny goody good dialog and actions He-Man was doing in the original show.

did you remember this commerical

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHncoxvxRO8

# ¿ Jul 26, 2021 18:36

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# ¿ Mar 29, 2023 23:33

Ups_rail: Dec 8, 2006; Bestselling author of
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nine-gear crow posted:

Also these people are generally just really stupid and ignorant. Normal people all unanimously really seem to like this show.

I disagree they know or have the capacity to understand it. They just are farming click bate youtube bucks/super chats

And it seems they have both the Show and KS to go after so everyday they can make videos rehashing the show or smith. The rage is an easy way to get engagement and be rewarded with money.

Lets say in the next 5 episodes all these rear end in a top hat get a teela they want, and the heman they want. They wills till bitch.

my loving youtube page is just loving TRASH NOW is there a way to tell youtube I dont wanna hear about loving heman

# ¿ Jul 28, 2021 22:53

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