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Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway
fell in the hole for this instead of finishing a mature adult show I could talk about with others but I couldn't look away from Catra's life trainwreck

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Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway
drunk, in quarentine alone, and cheering for Catra when she holds hands with Adora

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway

Android Blues posted:

I think it's tricky because like, Catra has literally attempted to kill Adora, kill Adora's friends, and destroy the world, some of those things multiple times each. You sort of have to read those as heightened metaphors for bad behaviour, rather than as literalism, for her redemption arc to "work" without more time than the show had to spend on it.

That said I still love the Catradora dynamic. It's really sweet and romantic this season. It's just like, if you remember the details of the stuff she did in previous seasons, you kind of have to treat that as not entirely literal for it to feel fully satisfying. Imo!

Like, the lesson is "abused kids who lash out and hurt the people around them can be better and deserve second chances at happiness", not so much "abused kids who attempt the destruction of the planet and also murder can be made better if their victims choose to show them kindness". You have to take Catra's transgressions as metaphors for like, bad behaviour in the social realm, not the physical and murderous violence that they literally were.


it's also a cartoon. no one gets a chance to destroy the entire universe irl.

I'm really, really, really tired of the idea that characters who were abused and then acted out based on that abuse has no choice but to die for "good" people who were born well and never made mistakes because the only way to be a good person is to be born into perfect circumstances and only neurotypical people with rich families can be good people.
And I'm honestly looking at posters who think Catra dying would be a better message really funny for coming into a children's show thread and suggesting that.
Adora wasn't waiting for her abuser to get better or whatever, Catra already had gotten better, was already trying to get better, and had already acknowledged she had been wrong, and had already been through loving hell. Both Adora and Catra were dealt a bad hand by their horde adoption, and both are hosed up from it. The entire story has been about their relationship and how hosed up it is they could not be there for each other. Let them have their happy ending.

Maybe the part where Catra wants to get better and starts getting better was too fast, whatever. It's kind of silly the horde's holding hands with the rebellion now and singing koombaya. But we already had the kind of alternate ending like this in Voltron and everyone either thought it was...ok... or loving hated it

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway

Beekeeping and You posted:

I mean, they do, but it's usually businessmen and not traumatized catgirls

I guess I do kind of read Horde as being less like an army and more like Amazon or Tesla for some reason.

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