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Teledahn
May 14, 2009

What is that bear doing there?


pressedbunny posted:

I spent most of the series yelling in my head [snip] Her line in the second-last episode, [snip] absolutely crushed me.

I'd have liked this to have gone to at least six seasons; add another dozen episodes somewhere in the middle, so more characters could get feature episodes.

About the same! I finished this yesterday, having watched a few episodes a day for the past two-three weeks. At first I felt pretty crushed when I learned season 5 was the planned last (This was before I got there) but the 'post-good-thing-sadness' is real. This show was great, but Ooof, been awhile since a show hit me like that! I felt season 5 was the best Catradora!, but also flawed due to perhaps too much ramping-up and plot-point compression. But I hardly think anyone would argue against more She-Ra, had the plot beats of season 5 been divided and extended into a hypothetical season 6.

Catra's redemption arc, not to reopen the enormous walls of text up-thread, resonated and very much struck home with me. Wish there had been more moments of "I'm sorry I got angry, it's something I'm working on" (Cue Adora's sparkly eyes) to cement her character growth.

ConfusedUs posted:

Catra’s voice actress is amazing. The scorn, the taunts, the mocking laugh, the hurt, the anger...she’s got some range. Also I can’t be the only one who loves the way she says “Hey Adora” can I?
Holy poo poo Bow has two dads and they both own.
Scorpia is way too nice for the horde.

200% agreed. Repost but a good'un: 4 min clip of She-Ra cast trying on “Hey Adora”

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Teledahn
May 14, 2009

What is that bear doing there?


pentyne posted:

It was kind of sudden but there was literally no indication they were queer. The rift between them after Glimmer went power-crazy definitely seemed quite a bit more intense then just "you were my friend"

I agree it felt sudden but was hardly unexpected. Rewatching the early episodes I think the signals are clear, but it's not in focus. Bow's introductory act is to visit Glimmer's bedroom window and launch a heart covered note into it. We also learn they regularly sneaks into and out of same. Being a kid's show the romantic intent angle is reduced to mere implication, but it is definitely there.

ConfusedUs posted:

-I, sadly, never quite bought that everyone was willing to support Catra's redemption. I 100% bought that Catra herself was truly sorry, but I never could wrap my head around how everyone could believe her about it. I feel that Catra burned every bridge beyond repair, except maybe with Scorpia. This slightly tainted my opinion of most of the season, and is the sole reason I put it below Seasons 3 and 4. If I could turn my brain off and just accept it...

-Assimilated Catra has a cool design, and her fight with Adora was one of the most emotionally charged scenes in the show. So good.
Agreed!

Again, going back to the early episodes, I'm surprised how consistent the show is. I know it was approved basically as a complete 52 episode run but I'm curious about how in depth was their plotting and planning. Certainly a finale and climax should have lots of exciting, high energy, and dramatic events but I feel season 5 could have improved with a few more episodes showing progression. Could just be my interpretation, I knew it was ending and was wishing for more. I'm sure a second viewing will be different.

Also, just because, courtesy of Netflix's UK & Ireland's Youtube account: Catradora: The Catra and Adora Story In Full

Teledahn
May 14, 2009

What is that bear doing there?


The_Doctor posted:

It didn’t even register to me that Bow was interested in women at all. The only person he ever shows any interest in beyond friendship is Seahawk. The Glimmer thing at the end felt super flat and like pointless tidying up. They should have just left them as BFFs (which you can still totally read them as).

Wittgen posted:

Bow uses a heart motif all over the place. That is pretty flimsy. Even something more substantive like how jealous Glimmer got at princess prom doesn't really address what I am getting at though.
I don't think Bow and Glimmer showed romantic chemistry. It's fine that they got together, but my reaction was and remains, "Really? Well, sure, whatever." For all the other pairings, it was a far more enthusiastic feeling of of course those two would fall in love.

pressedbunny posted:

I took their scenes at the end to be one-sided; romantic intent from Glimmer but an entirely platonic response from Bow. It's either that or Glimmer is going to be the most unbelievable beard on the planet.

I think these are all fair interpretations, and that personally I'm leaning towards the BFFs angle. Glimmer is definitely expressing more than Bow, and it is somewhat unclear what his response is. He was definitely 'enthusiastic' about Sea-Hawk so who really knows. With this show, assume gay unless otherwise specified. :v:

Re: the heart motif; You're absolutely correct that we later learn just how much he leans into that symbol but the launching of a heart-filled note is the first act we see. An intentional act by a careful creator? I think the ambiguity was intentional and I think it works. That's one of the things I like about this show, there's at least two ways to read most of the relationships.

Teledahn
May 14, 2009

What is that bear doing there?


Please enjoy this analytic thesis about the core themes of a gay rainbow cartoon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uev-yywlBug


Seriously, it's really good (especially in 2020) and I think the best take I've seen.

E: Semi-related, the other She-Ra clip on that channel is also a pretty insightful take on an episode I should refresh my memory of. S5E3 "Corridors" and Catra. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZNY2QcodGg

Teledahn fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Aug 13, 2020

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