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The part that fascinated me the most: The show has always been a combination of fantasy and sci fi so what happens when the fantasy element begins to fail? Tri-Klops creating some crazy technology based religion made a lot of sense. I mean if one aspect of life fails and you got this other side to everything why wouldn't you lean into that as some sort of salvation or a way to keep going forward. I really want to know what was that stuff he had people drinking. Is there something else behind it all? I really wanted to know more.
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It's one of those nutty things Netflix does. And there's another Masters of the Universe show in the works, this is a stand alone project.
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Larryb posted:Yeah, from what I understand the other series will be a complete reboot ala SPoP that’ll be a more full fledged show while this is just a short little sequel aimed at the older fans. Which is why I find it odd they’re splitting it up into parts like this (I wonder if Revelation Part 2 and the CGI series will wind up overlapping in terms of release dates or if the latter will start first) A picture leaked the other day of the new show in the works, it appears to show the Sorceress. I can tell you now people will likely be livid due to the design judging from the reaction to this.
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Larryb posted:Huh, I never saw New Adventures but always assumed it was a sequel. How does that one hold up? The New Adventures was a thing. And pretty much agreed to be horrible on almost all counts. 02 was quite beloved by the fanbase. Sure there were some sticklers but overall it was extremely well received. The biggest issues people had was with the toys and how many He-Man's and Skeletors flooded the pegs while other characters were hard as hell to get. It's widely credited as the reason it failed, due to Mattels lovely distribution. No toyline, no show. Spacedad posted:One of the show's main writers confirmed that Adam is not dead, just wounded, and will be coming back in the second half of the season. Kevin Smith also further confirmed that He-man will be back as well. So yeah, the show is just setting up really dire stakes. I can easily see a new Roboto being built, either Duncan uses his brain waves to create an older version or he has the back ups of his original ones so he can redo the whole process. He'd be like the old Roboto but capable of growing in a different new way. And maybe magic will bring him back, why not? Everything is possible, if he does return things could easily play out as you have said with the technologist cult bowing before him and learning from his wisdom. Be a hell of a way to cap that whole plotline. The Last Call fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Jul 25, 2021 |
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Larryb posted:What was wrong with New Adventures out of curiosity? Orko in the original show was the standard goofy silly sidekick that was constant in cartoons of the time. He was often shouting for He Man and with his voice it likely grated on some people. Now as a kid at the time I wasn't bothered by him, like I said he was the standard silly goof sidekick, every show had one. The older you were though he tended to annoy people. His inability to get spells right was basically his main method of being funny. In the 02 remake I honestly can't remember a thing about him. Now to New Adventures. This came two years after the original line had wrapped and to be frank not alot of people knew this even existed. Most learned about it later on the net and sought it out. Be it those who watched it originally or sought it out were often both disappointed. The show went in a whole new direction, it had He-Man and Skeletor but had a whole new cast of characters with all the old ones gone. It took place in space and the character designs could be generously described as bland at best. Ie:  The guy in the middle, it's He Man, can't you tell? Good ol Skelly:  So yeah, people were not fans of the redesigns. The new baddies were mutants, it was 1990 so of course they were. The developers did try to make things new and fresh but they removed far too much of what people loved about the original show, I mean when you got only two characters from the original show some folk ain't going to be happy. Add in designs that thrilled no one and it's no surprised this wasn't loved. Didn't help that a certain lean mean green team of ninjas were the hot new thing that crushed all those that dared to try and challenge it. BTW for those who want a great He-Man series to read a number of years ago came out a bunch of comics that had everything, including the Horde, Hordak and Adora/She-Ra. It's top notch stuff and worth tracking down if you can find it. It's kinda remarkable since the rights to He-Man and She-Ra are two different groups, hence why they don't cross over or mention the other lately. Bit of a tangled web that is. The Last Call fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Jul 25, 2021 |
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side_burned posted:I mite have to check it that out. I know Abnett has written a lot of 40k stuff and back around 1996 part of what I liked about 40k was that was close to what imagined a grim dark Masters of the Universe would be. It's worth it. The comics is kinda what a lot of folks wanted the new series to be.
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Jul 25, 2021 23:46
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I wasn't bothered by that, I mean He-Man himself wears fur, it fits the theme of Masters of the Universe. That and Teela does get a look that some went nuts over, in a good way. Another recent release to check out:  Yes, multiple He-Men from the cartoons, comics, movie and more smashed together. I won't call it brilliant but it's a fun five issue or TPB read to see what happens and what comes next.
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Jul 26, 2021 00:21
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side_burned posted:How can there be so many versions of one character that all have terrible haircuts. Even the strongest muscled barber on Eternia is not capable of cutting He-Man's hair.
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Jul 26, 2021 00:40
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Jul 26, 2021 01:41
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Dave Syndrome posted:The one thing that dates this comic immensely is that the He-Man from the "Tappers of Grayskull" mobile game takes center stage a LOT. He was the one character I had no idea where he came from. I figured he was an OC for the comic.
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Jul 26, 2021 16:23
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What kid didn't love slime. You also got it in Ghostbusters and TMNT, now and then I think of buying some slime for kicks but I heard any you find these days isn't quite the same. Anyone know for sure?
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Jul 26, 2021 19:55
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I remember getting two Ghostbusters ones that came with ghost. I can confirm that slime did not go well with the era of carpets everywhere. Also got two slime canisters from TMNT that had the turtles in them. I still remember my horror finding one had fell on it's slide leaking out and pretty much getting ruined. They did not last long if left out.
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Jul 26, 2021 20:06
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Panfilo posted:There's a good message about being loyal to those who lift you up, not drag you down. I think Evil Lyn sees that even though Orko is sloppy with magic he has friends that have his back. Meanwhile Evil Lyn is very good with magic but Skeletor takes her for granted. Maybe she equated Orkos parents to her relationship with Skeletor and it reminded her of how much he might have held her back to be so desperate for approval. It's been a thing for some time, might go back to the original show but the 2002 definitely had it.  moths posted:Sorceress is going to be revealed as Teela's mom, right? Is that what the mad babies thought was a lesbian moment? She always is. That's been a thing since the original He-Man show. It's been retold several times, though in most cases Teela never finds out.
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Jul 27, 2021 19:15
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Android Blues posted:Yeah, she had white hair under the helmet in '82 as well: I didn't remember ever seeing her hair in the original show so when I saw that online wasn't sure if it was edited or not to match the 2002 look.
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Jul 27, 2021 19:52
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Android Blues posted:It's real! From this episode: Thanks! I really wasn't sure so glad to have that cleared up. She-Ra was very much the deeper and better written show, He-Man was more generic. She-Ra was a bit more than that. It's funny looking back on it I never thought of it as a girls show, to me it was animated so it was for everyone. That was my thoughts as a child, didn't hurt I knew others who watched both as well and not one ever said it was only for girls. That and as a kid I realized okay this is more serious than He-Man. Adora being part of the Horde to start off was way beyond what most cartoons did. The Last Call fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Jul 27, 2021 |
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Android Blues posted:Yeah, She-Ra's extremely campy still, but its plots tend to be better paced and you're right, the stakes are way higher. The Horde are in control, the rebels are on the back foot and would be wiped out if the Horde ever learned the location of their hideout, so even though it's still very sugary and silly and She-Ra routinely wipes the floor with Hordak and his goons, the plots where the Horde has a new super-weapon or whatever feel a bit more urgent and coherent than Skeletor devising a plan to turn King Randor into a frog. That's pretty much the case yes. The show was still silly and goofy at parts because you couldn't go all grim dark otherwise the censors would cry bloody murder but you quickly realized how oppressed the people of the world were. Hordak was a threat, not the goofy bad guy Skeletor was 90% of the time. The animation was definitely superior than the He-Man show, it felt like it could have been a whole different studio due to the quality. Larryb posted:I personally thought SPoP did a few things better than its predecessor in terms of plot and characters (2018 Entrapta is the goddamn best) but yeah as far as the 80’s shows go She-Ra still feels like the superior one of the two. Less annoying sidekicks as well if I remember right. Not really. Adora was very much a more mature serious person in the original show. All the characters were. Not to say they didn't have fun but the tone between the original and 2018 is quite different.
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Yeah Madame Razz was the closet to how she was though not as confused in the original show nor time jumping either. It's possible to have She-Ra and the Horde to show up but it depends on certain factors as both properties are owned by different companies. It has happened since the original shows, again the He-Man comics some of us were talking about does have Adora and the Horde show up and unlike the cartoon the comic was not held back by anything. If you want to see how Adora would be if raised by the Horde with no restraints check that out. Hell the horde overall are deadly and processes people, the Fright Zone itself lives up to it's name and is ever expanding. Hordak is far beyond the snorting villain he once was. He eats souls. In the 2002 series Hordak was around and if there had been a third season it would have him fully show up with the Horde which you know means Adora. Sadly it got axed before that.
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I'm not entirely sure and I could be wrong but the rights to He-Man is with Mattel while She-Ra was technically with Filmation which later got bought by others. That means an agreement has to be reached to have the two cross over now. Again I could be wrong on this. It was only in 2014 a court case sided with Mattel owning He-Man, one of the original writers said he had some of the rights.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:It also just recently occurred to me that perhaps a reason the howling masses are making GBS threads on the show (other than their He-Man show having so many ~FEMALES~ in it) is that the also-ran B-side villains are literally a bunch of cowardly tech-bros who literally drink Kool-Aid. It's partly the times we are in as well. There are certain conservative sites/youtube screamist etc that will flip poo poo at anything for clicks because outrage gets views. They play to their audience while getting more eyeballs on what they say.
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Azubah posted:Wasn't Lyn a clone of Teela or the Sorceress? Originally I mean. Nope. Her father is quite the person himself.
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I find it quite amazing that people are thinking there is some lesbian nature between a mother and daughter. If you know anything about He-Man Teela being the Sorceress daughter is rather common. In other words people are causing outrage for outrage sakes.
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About Moss-Man in the new show: The mans a plant, you know he's going to Groot himself into being again later as a little sprout.
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The new comic tie in is out and Skeletor has a hell of a origin, Keldor? Not here at all. It's entirely new. *IF* true which Lyn even calls him out on Skeletor comes from a skull based race, yes they have necks. They look like him in other words. They were enslaved by a ram like race until Skeletor rose up and had them overthrown. He then found love and had a child. Yes they all looked like death as well. The ram people later killed them in front of Skeletor to break him. It's when a horde ship lands and Hordak and crew come out, promising the power to resurrect all he lost if he served. So he did. His race became Horde troopers. In time Hordak enabled him to resurrect one and only one to shut up his complaining about them. He chose his son. He left him in the hands of the Horde as he went out in the universe to train and learn more, in time he realized he would never have his wife again so planned to over throw Hordak. Again Lyn says it's all BS and Skeletor says it is but after she leaves he holds an amulet and tells his dead wife goodnight.
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I'm not particular fond of this look or style but it's not really for me. It's to get kids into the fandom and that's not a bad thing, we need a variety of stuff for various people.
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Some cover art from the She-Ra stuff in the Masters of the Universe comic a few years back:   If you recognize the artist give yourself a cookie.
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It's a crazy ride. It pretty much ramps up to 10 and never stops until it's over. Most people liked the ride, it was one of the better received Masters properties of the last two decades. Not to say it will be to everyone's taste as swords and more are put to bloody use. The fright zone is truly an evil thing and Hordak himself is the most vicious version of him yet. If you ever wondered what Adora would be like if free of restraint and tried to do the worse things you find out the end result   But if you know her story you know what must happen: 
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Yup Adora has a rough time of dealing with everything she did once she comes around to the full truth and the fact Hordak used her. You don't live a truly evil life, switch sides and not realize the horrible things you did. One of the most important aspects of this story is that Adam isn't the one to make her learn the truth, it's Teela.
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He Man: Find safe positions! Lady: There are no safe positions! He Man: Oh there is one. Behind me. 
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I liked it! There were many winks to past He-Man stuff. Wonder who Pig Boy was? When the live movie was coming out a kid won a contest to appear in the movie and he was PIG BOY, he's holding Skeletors staff. Blade Master is from the movie as well, he was the bald guy in the sewer. When Teela becomes Sorceress her costume looks a lot more like the 2000 He Man cartoons sorceress costume. As for Evil Lynn upgraded look is a bit like her Sorceress one in the He-Man comic years back:  Notice in that panel she mentions Horokoth? Well there are three eras in which the planet went through, there was the one of Serpos that the Snakemen worshipped, then it was zoar and finally Horokoth though it was short lived. In the cartoon that's where her bat aspect of her costume comes from.  Oh and the people that wanted Horokoth was Hordak and the horde. Evil Lynn was their sorceress. Serpos, Zoar and Horokoth was the Goddess, but each group viewed her differently. Horokoth represented destruction. Now all that is from a different comic run than the prequel stuff I'll talk about below. The snake that showed up attacking Zoar might have been Serpos. Quick reminder, there was a prequel comic and it had a few details: Skeletor is from a planet of blue skinned beings and yes they have skulls for faces. He had a family. His race was oppressed by another, until he led an uprising. They killed his family in retaliation which broke him. It was at this point Skeletor met the Horde. That's how he was taught, he helped invasions of other worlds. Hordak brought back Skeletors child to shut him up about wanting his family back which he had been promised, in the end he was given a single choice. Wife or child. The child is with the horde as is Skeletors race who are now Horde troopers, yes soldiers in horde armor like the latest She ra cartoon. So yes, the Horde exist in this continuity but it seems most people realized that at the end of the episode. Is it me or does that computer infection really seem like the the Fright Zone? The comics also revealed that Evil Lynn was trained by a magic user in the sewers, needless to say it all ends bad. That's on Evil Lynn. This is where there's also a big issue, namely the show says those people who wanted to eat Lynn as a kid were her parents. In the comic they bought Lynn from her parents, yes they still intended to eat her. She escapes and goes into the sewers where the above happens, she goes back to kill the two that bought her only to be stopped by the old magic user, she flees and at this point we get the scene from the show where two guys chase her into the alley with no escape, in both cases Skeletor shows up and saves her, there's some dialogue. They go into the portal and they're on Hordaks ship. Hordak and several other known Horde characters are there. Skeletor promises her power but she needs to take it, they go back to the sewers and kills the old magic user and Lynn takes the womans crystal which becomes part of her staff. Teela manages to manifest her magic abilities and is able to heal the King who had been on the brink of death. Oh and Teela has her memories wiped every so often by the Sorceress with Duncan and He-Man being part of it. Any time Teela gets close to knowing the secret it's a memory wipe time. The Orlax, the big slimey creature was found by Skeletor in the Mystic Mountains. He invaded it's mind and came to realize that Greyskull castle was a facade to hide the real prize within. He knows the crystal orb is within and how to get there. The Orlax knows many things, its ancient and see's what is coming, the last thing it see's in the comic is Evil Lynn as the sorcress with the power, she's covered but yeah it's the outfit from the show for sure. Are we getting more episodes that will have Hordak? It's so hard to know for sure. He's in the comic as are several other characters, no Adora. Plus Skeletor has Horde insignia's on his costume both in show and comic. The problem is the rights for She-Ra etc are held by a different party than the one that has He-Man's. It's why the She-Ra cartoon was it's own thing. Rights tend to be a fickle thing, maybe they can have the Horde including Hordak but no She Ra/Adora. Or maybe they can only really show them in the comic but again minus She Ra/Adora. And maybe they got an agreement in place that benefits both. It's impossible to know until it happens.
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Larryb posted:I forget, did Hordak have any lines in this series? And if so, who voiced him? No He's strictly in the prequel comic.
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