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I'm halfway through the season and it seems like Catra is really her own biggest enemy. She was leading the Horde better than Hordak ever could, but the pettiness of her motives and laser focus she had on her personal problems meant she kept dropping the ball where it mattered most. She was the baddest warlord in the Crimson Wastes, and could've lead a life way more her style, but her inferiority complex drove her to running right back into a situation she loathed. Honestly, the reason why Adora is thriving where Shadow Weaver, Hordak, and Catra fail, in large part, seems to be that she got out.
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thatbastardken posted:what other kids has shadow weaver messed with? isn't it just adora and catra? maybe Micah at a stretch? Only abusing 2.5 kids is still a pretty high number for child abuse.
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Aug 7, 2019 05:16
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Ups_rail posted:Eh this show is alittle odd. I feel like theirs too many characters but the only one that is compelling is you guessed it catra. I'd say Scorpia and the main heroes are tropey yet enjoyable and have potential, Catra, Entrapta, and surprisingly Hordak are legit interesting, and the Princess Alliance feels like a leftover element of the show that gets increasingly pushed into the background to make room for the two trios that actually matter.
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Aug 9, 2019 16:44
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Ups_rail posted:You make a good point now that we know hordak s back story. I think the setting would fit better if you had less of a resistance hold out. and more a waring states political set up with conquered states and collaborators. Hell Shadow weaver, Scorpia, Entrapta all kinda fit that description. But gently caress I am 40 year old goons and its a kids cartoon. The personal stakes for the heroes have been interesting when they come up, but usually their arcs are all focused on the mission and main story. And the stakes for that story really aren't that defined. Like, you mention less resistance and more warring states, and I think that's kind of what we already have? The Horde clearly isn't in control of the whole world, considering large regions both civilized (Frosta's kingdom) and wild (the Crimson Wastes) don't care about the conflict. There's plenty of doubt in the Princess Alliance as a unit, and even civilians like Bow's parents don't seem exceptionally concerned about the Horde. It honestly feels less like the Horde controls the entire world, and more like they're a slightly unpleasant kingdom that is kept in check but constantly pushing its luck. Meanwhile, the villains motivations are all deeply tied to their personal goals, and that lets us easily connect to them. And in a further meanwhile, the Princess Alliance doesn't really have any personal goals. Hell, Frosta is pretty much a completely different character between seasons 1 and 2! They get the series title, look really important in the intro and have sizable roles in Season 1, but fall off the radar hard afterwards. They'd already need to compete with Glimmer, Bow, and Catra, for role of deuteragonist, but when we're also expanding roles for Entrapta, Scorpia, Hordak, and even Shadow Weaver? Now the three of them collectively get table scraps. It feels like the show was originally going to be almost like a magical girl team-up show, but shifted gears hard after the fact.
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Aug 10, 2019 04:57
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Gaunab posted:I noticed it too. A lot of the villains have backgrounds that make them sympathetic but not sympathetic enough to make me forget that they're knowingly trying to subjugate the world. And while they've raised the stakes to intergalactic levels, I think more time could be spent developing the world they're on now. As long as the kids love it and learn something from it though then my opinions don't carry much weight. 3/5 Yeah, I think if anything the fact that we want the setting developed more is a point of credit to the show. I mean, they turned around Hordak, who had a redesign less striking than his original appearance and such a generic personality, in what. Two episodes? And their spotlight episodes like the Shadow Weaver episode are really cool. The writers clearly know what they're doing.
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Aug 10, 2019 13:48
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Do you think it ever really pissed Skeletor off that someone else lived in the skull fortress and he just had to dorm with some sneople?
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Aug 11, 2019 13:59
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twistedmentat posted:In 80s cartoons, Skeletor and Hordak were BFFs and they stole Adora together. Didn't Skeletor try to kill Hordak with a cursed pie?
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Nov 10, 2019 07:48
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Hordak is absolutely the kind of creep who trades DKP for nudes.
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Dec 2, 2019 17:24
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Darth Walrus posted:Nah. Guy's a sheltered manchild who grew up thinking he was a literal weapon. That kind of calculating horniness is well beyond him. Probably thinks babies are only made in vats. Okay, you're right. Horde PRIME would do that. Hordak himself would keep missing that the raid's night elf priest is hitting on him despite how obviously irritated her irl husband is getting about it.
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Dec 2, 2019 21:46
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al-azad posted:It's the Star Wars problem on a smaller scale. Star Wars wants to appeal primarily to a young audience but it's still about literal space Nazis so redemption arcs feel exceptionally weird when you have 30 minutes of screen time to forgive a guy who murdered millions. And that leads to weird messaging out of context like "Who do you stan, loving storm troopers or the people trying to stop them?" I feel like its become a bigger problem nowadays, too. There are entire Stormtrooper cosplay groups for charity. Would that exist if Star Wars came out nowadays, when Nazis have become such a hot button issue?
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There's an alternate world where instead of The Horde getting focus, it all went to Frosta, Mermista, and Perfuma. I don't think I want to live in that world.
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