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maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

ENEMIES EVERYWHERE posted:

what canonical straight romances are there?

micah & angela have no screentime together because hes been ambiguously dead and now shes ambiguously dead. so far hordak and entrapta are just lab partners with some one-sided blushing. seahawk has heart eyes for mermista but she clearly thinks hes a big dork (though it was cute how she ran off after his seagull SOS to go save him).

whereas:
catra & adora
scorpia & catra
adora & literally any big lady with nice big muscles
lots of other girls & she-ras nice big muscles
lighthope & mara?
spinnerella & netossa actually canon married

Also, Scorpia's mothers (Depicted)

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maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

I'm sorry but this is amazing and needs to be talked about rather than all the pointless he-man stuff :colbert:

What is it a reference to?

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

Pyrotoad posted:

Does anyone else think Mara isn't dead? Like, why would she show up in the alt-reality, when there isn't a single other dead character who appears there too?

Heck, up until this season, I was pretty sure she was Madame Razz.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

cant cook creole bream posted:

I still don't really get the motivation behind leaving him alive in the first place. Was it just an act of pride? He was talking about it like he was captured and exiled to the island. But why was Hordak suddenly feeling merciful?

Almost everyone on the Horde side appears to consider being sent to Beast Island an effective death sentence (and possibly worse than an actual one), and it doesn't sound like anyone has ever returned to tell them otherwise. It seems likely that Hordak hasn't really looked further into the issue to see if anyone could survive there long-term.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

pentyne posted:

What's the other one?

edit: I'm assuming Bojack.

Voltron: Legendary Defender also fits.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.
From Shadow Weaver, it's one final manipulation.

However this ends, I've lost the two of them. If Adora dies, Catra will never return to me. If Catra dies, Adora will never forgive me. If they both survive, they'll turn to each other, and I'll have lost them forever.

Screw that. I'll go out on my own terms, and they'll spend sleepless nights trying to figure out if I ever really loved them, and whether I was a good person, deep down. And I'll be dead, so there's nothing I can do to overshadow this moment, and it will color every memory of me they, or anyone, has, forever.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

tsob posted:


I'd also say I just didn't find it fitting that Catra basically got what she wanted all along, despite all the terrible things she did.

Shadow Weaver: "I am so proud of you, Catra."

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

Taear posted:

see the friends they made on the crystal world in a shot when Hordak Prime is talking about rebellions. I'm not really sure what the idea of them was - maybe to show that everywhere else there's also a potential for hope? They were decent characters though, shame to see them so little.

It's also the second time they have characters referencing the Star Sisters, the first time being in S1E8, "Princess Prom". Those Star Sisters didn't speak, though. Peekablue also got a namedrop in that episode, though I don't thin a gender was mentioned.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

Madurai posted:

I feel like if we dig hard enough in the 80s version, that'll be an actual character name.

I should be used to this given the MCU (and having watched the rest of the show), but I was continually tickled that names like "Melog," "Swen", and "Lynda D'Ream" were 80's Show canon.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.
If there was anything likely to get Adora to come as quickly as possible, risking everything,it was the one-two punch of "I saved Glimmer for you" and "Don't come save me, I'm certainly dead by now, this is entirely different from what happened with Entrapta."

Horde Prime counted on it, and he only knew of Adora through interviews, video footage, and Hordak's memories. Catra would have known that too, if she'd stopped to think about it.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

Android Blues posted:

Scorpia could probably lay claim to the Fright Zone if she wanted, but she'd have no people to like, govern, and it's unlikely she has much interest in that kind of thing anyway.

She's throwing a Ball (possibly a Princess Prom?) in Adora's vision, so Adora, at least, expects her to eventually decide to do that.

And somebody needs to secure the Black Garnet.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

Chokes McGee posted:

Catra is actually pretty scrappy in the series and constantly owns everyone. She's not necessarily strongest but she's tactically sneaky as gently caress.

She's also arguably carrying the deadliest weapons in the series in her fingers and toes.

She can slice through metal doors with them. According to Octavia, Catra clawed Octavia's eye out when she was six, (And then Adora and Catra laughed at her dumb face, which was bad, but well, six-year-olds raised by Shadow Weaver in the Horde.)

I don't think any other injury mentioned during the series does permanent maiming damage to a living character, but I could be wrong.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

Technowolf posted:

Hasbro tried to bring MASK back as a comic a few years ago, but it was tied into the larder IDW Hasbro-verse and was kinda hampered by that.

They also get a namedrop in Transformers: Prime, when Optimus needs a new alt-mode as a truck with rocket engines.

I'm hard- pressed to think of another 80' s girl- oriented cartoon that has mindspace and hasn't already been rebooted in some form. Jem has the IDW series, My Little Pony and Strawberry Shortcake have had multiple reboots.

Though, admittedly, the lack of mindspace helps. Almost nobody really remembers Wildfire, Lady Lovely Locks, or Rose Petal Place, so you can do almost whatever you want with them.


maltesh fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Jun 1, 2020

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

MonsieurChoc posted:

I love the Joueur du Grenier's review of the old tv series.

*Misfits show up at a birthday party*
"They threw your sister into a volcano! Why are you letting her in?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtszgIRPLMQ
If you udnerstand french

And if you're sufficiently interested in 80's Jem and the Holograms, and have a heck of a lot of free time for some reason, there's the Jem Jam podcast, which covers the 65 episodes of the cartoon, the IDW comic series, and the live action movie.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

twistedmentat posted:

I know its good on body types, but how gay is it?

Stimber is canon.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.
With the Jem and the Holograms cartoon, I've long been of the opinion that the late Emmett Benton set up the secret lair under the drive-in with the tricked-out car and the AI holographic supercomputer with the intention of allowing his daughters to become crimefighting superheroes.

And when they told Synergy, the computer built from the memories of their mother, "We'll use this to become Glam Rockers", she decided "That seems less dangerous. Let's do that, instead."

She was wrong, of course.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

RareAcumen posted:

The She-Ra podcast says that the 80's She-Ra cartoon was like the top rated one back then so I guess it was really popular but I just missed it since I was born in the 90's :v:

In my own television market, when She-Ra aired on the channel that became the local Fox Affiliate, it was a weekday morning cartoon, and was shown late enough in the morning that there were no other broadcast cartoons airing to compete with it. So it was probably PBS, Nickelodeon's Pinwheel if you had Cable, or She-Ra, for the sufficiently-young demographic who wasn't interested in talk shows.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

AlternateNu posted:

Adora was Kal-El'd via portal.

Doomed Planet. Desperate Royalty. Light Hope. Shadow Weaver.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

Voyager I posted:


- Shadow Weaver's act of redemption seemed a little forced? I know it's stortytelling tradition to have the most reprehensible antagonist commit a heroic sacrifice both to a) prove they really meant it and b) not have to deal with the consequences of what an rear end in a top hat they were previously, but Weaver hadn't really shown any signs of recrimination beforehand.


I don't think Shadow Weaver was committing an act of redemption. She's doing something that looks like an act of redemption so that she doesn't have to deal with the consequences of what she's done in the past, or live in a world where nobody in power has any further use for her as she is. To her, the writing on the wall is "Change or Die", and she picked "Die." and especially "Die in a way that makes Catra and Adora doubt what they thought about her."

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

ConfusedUs posted:


Scorpia continues to be too drat nice for the horde. Is it widely known shes a princess? It seems that she would directly undermine horde propaganda about princesses.


It should be; Catra publicly used Scorpia's standing invitation to the Princess Prom to pull off the plan that captured Glimmer and Bow back in Season 1. Everyone who was there, including the Horde Soldiers, should know that Scorpia is (or could believe that she at least was, on a Technicality) a Princess.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.
Honestly, I'd prefer they let this She-Ra show be its own story.

If the Kevin Smith MotU show runners want to do their own take on the She-Ra mythos I suppose it's up to Hasbro.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.
ICarta was planned as the original primary antagonist of the She-Ra toyline back in the 80s, but the toy company had all these leftover third-wave He-Man figures in the pipeline after the He-Man show ended, so they wound up taking that away from her and giving it to Hordak.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

RareAcumen posted:

A weird line to draw when Scooby Doo and Garfield were already a thing

Scooby Doo! Mystery Incorporated felt the need to answer the question "Why is it that Scooby can talk?" I still think that was a weird choice for the show to make, but by that point in the second season, I guess I understand why they did.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.
Presumably, an authorized wielder of the sword who has read the manual can go into the settings and change the activation phrase.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.
There are technically handles Skeletor could have twisted if it was known that He-Man was actually the Crown Prince of Eternia instead of some weird barbarian vigilante ally who shows up to help on his own schedule.

At the very least, it makes it a lot easier to predict where He-Man is going to be at any one time, or to wrangle concessions out of Randor if He-Man is captured.

And presumably, it's a lot easier to kill Prince Adam than He-Man, If Adam can't be He-man all the time, though I don't know if there's ever been a time limit imposed.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.
And don't forget 80's Swift Wind's demon voice.

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maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

Azza Bamboo posted:

I was watching Korra as it came out but I stopped for some reason. I think there was a huge hiatus and I didn't catch up at the end. Might have to finish that.


As I recall there was both a hiatus and for part of one season of Korra, Nickelodeon was only airing it on its app/website.

Definitely recommending the The Owl House.

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