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basic hitler posted:That would rule. If Bernie got noninated and instead of it being a masturbatory coronation where delegates get replaced by actors for being too uppity, he uses it as a platform to sieze the party and loving threaten all the succ thats forced to clap and smile to the sincere cheering adoration of all delegates present I've maintained for a while that the best way for Bernie to have a lasting legacy is for him to ostentatiously declare that he is the Democratic Party present and his platform, which is more or less the official 2016 platform, is what Dems stand for now and will stand for in the future. Basically dare leadership to challenge him. Just lol if you think that Schumer and Pelosi are suddenly gonna grow a spine. Pelosi, if she makes Speaker, is gonna owe it to the progressive caucus and she knows they could take her out whenever. Schumer has no cred with voters and only still has the job because no one else wants to spend the next two years getting clowned on by McConnell. Bernie's already out stumping for Dems nationwide who run on his platform and has literally nothing to fear.
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anime was right posted:the best part of the dem primary is every single thing trump says about whatever nominee will dominate the news for a week this is my 2nd most look forward to part the first is celebrating the ascension of 46th president, bernie "bernie" sanders
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Everybody fantasizing about Bernie seizing control of the Democrats to turn it into a social democratic party should look at the struggle within UK Labour. Corbyn is positioned to be the next PM and has made Labour the biggest party in Europe, but all the succ libs in the party are still fighting to the death to kick him out.
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the UK labour party specifically had changed its rules and already had a structure that made something like a corbyn takeover possible. the democratic party is locked up wayyyy tighter than that and can hold out in a siege
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THS posted:the UK labour party specifically had changed its rules and already had a structure that made something like a corbyn takeover possible. the democratic party is locked up wayyyy tighter than that and can hold out in a siege hey they're already calling AOC antisemitic for voicing less than enthusiastic support for israel
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THS posted:the UK labour party specifically had changed its rules and already had a structure that made something like a corbyn takeover possible. the democratic party is locked up wayyyy tighter than that and can hold out in a siege yeah but theyre doing it really badly and have gotten nowhere
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Azathoth posted:I've maintained for a while that the best way for Bernie to have a lasting legacy is for him to ostentatiously declare that he is the Democratic Party present and his platform, which is more or less the official 2016 platform, is what Dems stand for now and will stand for in the future. I wish Bernie was as cool as Corbyn is. 
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Shear Modulus posted:yeah but theyre doing it really badly and have gotten nowhere And seriously, how would kicking Bernie out of the Democratic Party even work? If he holds elected office that is. poo poo, Zell Miller was a GWB cheerleader up until he retired and he was on TV all the drat time with a D next to his name.
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Azathoth posted:And seriously, how would kicking Bernie out of the Democratic Party even work? If he holds elected office that is. poo poo, Zell Miller was a GWB cheerleader up until he retired and he was on TV all the drat time with a D next to his name. Yeah but they don't kick you out of the Democratic Party for liking GWB, ya dingus.
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Lightning Knight posted:Yeah but they don't kick you out of the Democratic Party for liking GWB, ya dingus. In 2004 "Dubya bad" was literally all the Democrats could muster for a message. He wasn't cheerleading the Iraq War when it was starting up like most Dems, he was cheerleading Dubya after it all went to poo poo when the rest of the Dems had turned on him.
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Azathoth posted:In 2004 "Dubya bad" was literally all the Democrats could muster for a message. He wasn't cheerleading the Iraq War when it was starting up like most Dems, he was cheerleading Dubya after it all went to poo poo when the rest of the Dems had turned on him. It was a joke about them normalizing GWB.
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Lightning Knight posted:It was a joke about them normalizing GWB. 
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Zell Miller challenged Chris Matthews to a duel on the air. I just like to bring that up sometimes.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:It's gonna be Beto and frankly I'm perfectly okay with that. Make Bernie Senate Majority Leader. pokemon go to israel and oppress palestinians https://twitter.com/RepBetoORourke/status/1037785305393373184
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docbeard posted:Zell Miller challenged Chris Matthews to a duel on the air. Nice. Chris Matthews is craven, confirmed.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:It's gonna be Beto and frankly I'm perfectly okay with that. Make Bernie Senate Majority Leader. its funny how all the bad libs have avs pretending to be commies. fishmech, this dude
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The Ol Spicy Keychain posted:pokemon go to israel and oppress palestinians ah gently caress you Beto, you made me regret voting for you instead of just writing in my dad or some poo poo
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it's hard for me to hold AIPAC appearances against dems too much, bad as they are, because i really can't think of any prominent dem who doesn't kiss their ring at this point. even NYC's non-AOC progressive darling, Jumaane Williams, made a visit this year. it's catching up with dem voters at large but it's going to take a few years before that trickles up to the political class anyway, my sister is all in on Ron Wyden because she thinks Bernie had his chance and he shouldn't run again after losing. Wyden's pretty drat good (he was the only senator to endorse Bernie), but he isn't going to make much of a dent in the field and i don't hold myself to arbitrary made-up rules
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get that OUT of my face posted:it's hard for me to hold AIPAC appearances against dems too much, bad as they are, because i really can't think of any prominent dem who doesn't kiss their ring at this point. even NYC's non-AOC progressive darling, Jumaane Williams, made a visit this year. it's catching up with dem voters at large but it's going to take a few years before that trickles up to the political class Going though the replies on that tweet apparently Beto is #4 on the list of congressmen and senators taking money from pro-Israel PACs, and he takes more than anyone else in the House of Representatives. https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?ind=Q05 e: Ted Cruz was the #1 Congressional Republican recipient of pro-Israel PAC money lol Chillgamesh has issued a correction as of 02:29 on Nov 27, 2018 |
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Chillgamesh posted:Going though the replies on that tweet apparently Beto is #4 on the list of congressmen and senators taking money from pro-Israel PACs, and he takes more than anyone else in the House of Representatives.
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We need to put in an effort to get people out of the Purity Test mindset when it comes to these candidates and get them to think pragmatically. There's an election to win. Beto is alright. I appreciate his gradual shift to the center as of late.
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Stonelegs posted:We need to put in an effort to get people out of the Purity Test mindset when it comes to these candidates and get them to think pragmatically. There's an election to win. im gargling and drowning in cum and blood
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THS posted:im gargling and drowning in cum and blood put that on a hat and i'll fuckin buy it hat has to be size 8 doe, cuz of my dis a bil a tee
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Azathoth posted:And seriously, how would kicking Bernie out of the Democratic Party even work? If he holds elected office that is. poo poo, Zell Miller was a GWB cheerleader up until he retired and he was on TV all the drat time with a D next to his name.
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comedyblissoption posted:the dnc can unilaterally decide that a candidate is sufficiently not democratic enough and not allow candidates like sanders to run in the presidential primaries. i doubt they would press that nuclear button for bernie but would do so for future bernie-like candidates on the other hand, watching the dems nuke themselves in a single night would be pretty fuckin lolz worthy
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comedyblissoption posted:the dnc can unilaterally decide that a candidate is sufficiently not democratic enough and not allow candidates like sanders to run in the presidential primaries. i doubt they would press that nuclear button for bernie but would do so for future bernie-like candidates This would be about as politically viable as reinstating the draft or bombing Canada, so what I guess I'm saying is that there's only a decent chance of it happening.
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Stonelegs posted:We need to put in an effort to get people out of the Purity Test mindset when it comes to these candidates and get them to think pragmatically. There's an election to win. I'm so sorry sir, you seemed to have wandered outside of your home. dnd is that way, right next to country club.
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:its funny how all the bad libs have avs pretending to be commies. fishmech, this dude Can we make CSPAM a kulak free zone
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dekulakization in cspam NOW!
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THS posted:the UK labour party specifically had changed its rules and already had a structure that made something like a corbyn takeover possible. the democratic party is locked up wayyyy tighter than that and can hold out in a siege uk labour actually changed it's rules to make a corbyn takeover possible, because of massive hubris and an imagined outpouring of centrist support
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The Ol Spicy Keychain posted:pokemon go to israel and oppress palestinians https://twitter.com/fungumchum/status/1067281151016996865 oof
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To my knowledge the Oklahoma Democratic Primary is mixed. Independents can vote Dem. I did in 2016 and it's the reason Bernie overcame a 12 point deficit to beat Hillary.
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comedyblissoption posted:the dnc can unilaterally decide that a candidate is sufficiently not democratic enough and not allow candidates like sanders to run in the presidential primaries. i doubt they would press that nuclear button for bernie but would do so for future bernie-like candidates Either Bernie wins or someone more leftist wins (lol) or else it doesn’t really matter what the dnc does in 2022+ it owns (us)
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what if the only person that can beat a billionaire politician... is a richer billionaire politician https://twitter.com/AP/status/1067251692335493126
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