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Muscle Wizard: Jul 28, 2011; by sebmojo

Moridin920 posted:

The same response as nonviolent protest gets anyway?

you'll still be alive after the nonviolent protest

# ? Dec 30, 2018 23:52

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# ? Apr 24, 2024 15:13

Moridin920: Nov 15, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Muscle Wizard posted:

you'll still be alive after the nonviolent protest

Yeah maybe or maybe you get found dead of suicide with 3 bullets in the back of your head and your car on fire

# ? Dec 31, 2018 00:50

Muscle Wizard: Jul 28, 2011; by sebmojo

Moridin920 posted:

Yeah maybe or maybe you get found dead of suicide with 3 bullets in the back of your head and your car on fire

shut the gently caress up, moridin

# ? Dec 31, 2018 01:18

RaySmuckles: Oct 14, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Muscle Wizard posted:

shut the gently caress up, moridin

he's right tho?

# ? Dec 31, 2018 01:23

Muscle Wizard: Jul 28, 2011; by sebmojo

the last time people tried violent protest in detroit it didn't turn out too well. by all means though, please poo poo on the repressed because they're not fighting hard enough in a manner that pleases you.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 01:29

Muscle Wizard: Jul 28, 2011; by sebmojo

lol at these dumb morons in the ghettos that won't fight against a white majority that will literally call the loving military on them if they act out in any way. why aren't they fighting harder. i'm a good ally :downs:

gently caress you.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 01:33

Moridin920: Nov 15, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Yeah I guess black people should stay in their place lol

The gently caress are you even talking about all I said was that Americans are cowards vs the French and here you are handwringing about why protesting is bad actually

# ? Dec 31, 2018 01:35

RaySmuckles: Oct 14, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Muscle Wizard posted:

the last time people tried violent protest in detroit it didn't turn out too well. by all means though, please poo poo on the repressed because they're not fighting hard enough in a manner that pleases you.

sure, that riot half a century ago was bad

in the modern era, nonviolent protest leaders are ending up dead too, or targeted by the judicial system. not to mention virtually all modern american protests have been completely ineffective at achieving any measurable goals

seems like somethings got to change

# ? Dec 31, 2018 01:35

Moridin920: Nov 15, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

quote:

please poo poo on the repressed because they're not fighting hard enough in a manner that pleases you.

Gotta be then most milquetoast liberal #theresistance poo poo I've seen in a while lol

Believe it or not your polite outrage doesn't matter to anyone in charge

# ? Dec 31, 2018 01:38

Muscle Wizard: Jul 28, 2011; by sebmojo

Moridin920 posted:

Gotta be then most milquetoast liberal #theresistance poo poo I've seen in a while lol

yeah you're doing a great job helping out by living on the other side of the country and making GBS threads on people for not living up to your expectations and nothing else

# ? Dec 31, 2018 01:39

Moridin920: Nov 15, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Muscle Wizard posted:

yeah you're doing a great job helping out by living on the other side of the country and making GBS threads on people for not living up to your expectations and nothing else

Again, what are you even on about lol. I said Americans are cowards. Everyone collectively.

We protest with pink hats and get mad about protestors outside free speech zones. Parisians just set the Central Bank building on fire.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 01:41

Moridin920: Nov 15, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Like you saying "oh well but you know you might die" may be true but doesn't change the fact that Americans are cowards. If anything it affirms it.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 01:43

Choco1980: Feb 22, 2013; I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Unfortunately, America has conditioned its people to feel like they can't afford to take the time out to protest. We're a nation where we're now set up so that if you're not grateful for your slave labor minimum wage no time off for anything job that can't pay rent without putting you in debt, you might as well live on the street. Much of Americans just keep their heads down and keep slaving because anything else is a likely death sentence so they don't have the time to take off and go protest unless they're highly privileged already and/or wealthy. This is a great crime of this country, and it's not at all an accident.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 03:12

100 HOGS AGREE: Oct 13, 2007; Grimey Drawer

Choco1980 posted:

Unfortunately, America has conditioned its people to feel like they can't afford to take the time out to protest. We're a nation where we're now set up so that if you're not grateful for your slave labor minimum wage no time off for anything job that can't pay rent without putting you in debt, you might as well live on the street. Much of Americans just keep their heads down and keep slaving because anything else is a likely death sentence so they don't have the time to take off and go protest unless they're highly privileged already and/or wealthy. This is a great crime of this country, and it's not at all an accident.

that's how i feel, that and i'd have to drive like an hour to the closest place that would even have enough people together to have an effective protest

# ? Dec 31, 2018 03:43

Muscle Wizard: Jul 28, 2011; by sebmojo

Choco1980 posted:

Unfortunately, America has conditioned its people to feel like they can't afford to take the time out to protest. We're a nation where we're now set up so that if you're not grateful for your slave labor minimum wage no time off for anything job that can't pay rent without putting you in debt, you might as well live on the street. Much of Americans just keep their heads down and keep slaving because anything else is a likely death sentence so they don't have the time to take off and go protest unless they're highly privileged already and/or wealthy. This is a great crime of this country, and it's not at all an accident.

people are pissed off about this poo poo though, and they are protesting. we'll see how much of it keeps standing though cuz most of the state doesn't give a gently caress about the poorer parts.

# ? Dec 31, 2018 04:32

HUGE PUBES A PLUS: Apr 30, 2005

Happy New Year, Everyone. :toot:

Live stream of Whitmer and Gilcrest's inauguration.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/01/michigan-inauguration-whitmer-oath-swearing/2452027002/

# ? Jan 1, 2019 16:40

Former DILF: Jul 13, 2017

i forgot which thread i was in scott walker is an rear end in a top hat ive always hated that fucker and i hope he is ground to paste in a fortunate accident

# ? Jan 4, 2019 08:23

HUGE PUBES A PLUS: Apr 30, 2005

Former DILF posted:

i forgot which thread i was in scott walker is an rear end in a top hat ive always hated that fucker and i hope he is ground to paste in a fortunate accident

You are in the correct thread to discuss Scott Walker, who is an rear end in a top hat and deserves your derision.

# ? Jan 4, 2019 14:51

olives black: Nov 24, 2017; LENIN.
STILL.
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FUCK.
ME.

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

You are in the correct thread to discuss Scott Walker, who is an rear end in a top hat and deserves your derision.

god forbid that you criticize the succ dems that got elected in the state that's in the thread title, though

# ? Jan 5, 2019 02:01

HUGE PUBES A PLUS: Apr 30, 2005

olives black posted:

god forbid that you criticize the succ dems that got elected in the state that's in the thread title, though

succ is a matter of opinion, not fact and there is a thread for that.

# ? Jan 5, 2019 02:48

Gareth Gobulcoque: Jan 10, 2008

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

succ is a matter of opinion, not fact and there is a thread for that.

All dems are succ dems. That's a fact, Jack Pubes Plus.

# ? Jan 5, 2019 04:19

HUGE PUBES A PLUS: Apr 30, 2005

The aftermath of the shame duck session in Michigan is beginning to unfold.

https://twitter.com/ProgressMich/status/1083763021149863936

Bridge Magazine posted:

�I�m not a horse trader � I�ve never been known for that,� Snyder said in December. Instead, he told reporters, he takes �each piece of legislation seriously. And I will look at it, and if I believe it�s in the best public policy interests of our state, I�ll sign it. If it�s not, I won�t sign it.�

But lawmakers and others told Bridge Magazine the Republican governor changed his tune in the last days of the Legislature�s lame-duck session, agreeing in the early hours of Dec. 21 to support spending $113 million on legislators� pet projects in exchange for votes on his plan to fund environmental cleanups, roads and schools.

Also exposed is Quicken Loans guy Dan Gilbert and owner of half of downtown Detroit had Snyder's administration tell construction inspectors to look the other way on his Detroit projects.

https://twitter.com/freep/status/1083405366891868160

# ? Jan 11, 2019 17:44

Red Minjo: Oct 20, 2010; Out of the houses, which is the most blue?

The answer might not be be obvious at first.; Gravy Boat 2k

Waiting in the bottle return for the glass one to be cleaned reminds me, did anything ever happen with either of the bottle return bills? The cancellation or expansion? Everything on Google is from before the new year, and is just a What to Know type of thing.

# ? Feb 18, 2019 21:02

Giggy: Jan 22, 2010

Red Minjo posted:

Waiting in the bottle return for the glass one to be cleaned reminds me, did anything ever happen with either of the bottle return bills? The cancellation or expansion? Everything on Google is from before the new year, and is just a What to Know type of thing.

It ended up going nowhere. Our bottle deposits/returns are safe.

# ? Feb 18, 2019 21:06

HUGE PUBES A PLUS: Apr 30, 2005

Red Minjo posted:

Waiting in the bottle return for the glass one to be cleaned reminds me, did anything ever happen with either of the bottle return bills? The cancellation or expansion? Everything on Google is from before the new year, and is just a What to Know type of thing.

they both died. Quite a few of the shame duck bills died. The few that did get through are pretty horrible though.

# ? Feb 19, 2019 02:39

Lawman 0: Aug 17, 2010

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

they both died. Quite a few of the shame duck bills died. The few that did get through are pretty horrible though.

Which ones got through?

# ? Feb 19, 2019 02:54

HUGE PUBES A PLUS: Apr 30, 2005

http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/the-lame-duck-rundown-of-bills-that-snyder-signed-vetoed

quote:

DEC. 28

BALLOT DRIVES: Snyder signed a law requiring ballot drives to count no more than 15 percent of their voter signatures from any one of Michigan�s 14 congressional districts. (This is meant to punish the very successful ballot drive to establish an independent redistricting commission for elections. Lawsuits pending)

LEGISLATIVE INTERVENTION: Snyder vetoed a bill that would have let the Legislature automatically intervene in certain lawsuits, a power now reserved for the state attorney general. (he did something good for a change. This bill was meant to hamstring the new Democratic AG.)

REGULATIONS: Snyder signed a law requiring state agencies that want to impose regulations tougher than federal standards to demonstrate a �clear and convincing� need.

NONPROFIT DONORS: Snyder vetoed a bill that would have blocked attempts by government agencies to force the disclosure of donors to nonprofits, including political groups whose sway has grown in elections. (more dark money in Michigan politics)

STATE BUDGET: Snyder signed a $1.3 billion supplemental budget plan that diverts new online sales tax revenue from schools to environmental cleanup, roads and other priorities. (Snyder hates funding public schools.)

ONLINE GAMBLING: Snyder vetoed bills that would have authorized online gambling, including wagers on sports.

ABORTION: Snyder vetoed legislation that would have permanently banned doctors from prescribing abortion-inducing drugs with webcams or other forms of telemedicine. He helped to enact the temporary prohibition in 2012, but the veto means it will expire next week.

GRADING SCHOOLS: Snyder signed a law to require A-through-F letter grades for public schools, starting in September 2019.(ALEC model bill to hurt public schools)

FIREWORKS: Snyder signed laws letting municipalities restrict the use of fireworks on more days.

ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP: Snyder signed a law requiring the state Department of Environmental Quality to use federal toxicity values when setting cleanup criteria for hazardous substances.

WETLANDS: Snyder signed a scaled-down wetlands measure that continues to require permits for degrading many bogs, marshes and similar waterways but makes key concessions to developers. (fever dream of state senator Tom Casperson (R-hates nature) to despoil as much of the wild UP for commercial gain as possible0

TAXES: Snyder vetoed bills that would have cut taxes owed by various businesses.

DOG SALES: Snyder vetoed bills that would have regulated dog sales and restricted local bans on pet shops.

BREEDING: Snyder signed laws to allow for the breeding of large carnivores such as lions, tigers and bears.

RAPE EXAMS: Snyder signed laws requiring the Crime Victims Services Commission to spend more to reimburse health care providers for sexual assault medical forensic exams.

EVALUATION OF INCENTIVES: Snyder signed a law to make the state contract for periodic evaluation of its economic development incentives. The evaluations will occur every four or six years, depending on the value of the incentive.

DEC. 27

CYBERBULLYING: Snyder signed a law making cyberbullying a crime.

BUSINESS INCENTIVES: Snyder signed a law letting companies with out-of-state employees qualify for state economic development incentives as long as they account for no more than 25 percent of their workforce.

DENTAL THERAPISTS: Snyder signed a law creating a license for midlevel providers known as dental therapists to work in the state.

OCCUPATIONAL LICENSES: Snyder signed laws that restrict municipalities from imposing licensing requirements on certain occupations unless they already are doing so.

VETOES: Snyder vetoed bills that would have let parents surrender a newborn inside a safety device at a hospital, police department or fire station. Other bills he nixed would have changed billboard permitting, required the state to offer public school employees the option to buy annuities and let residential taxpayers be levied special assessments to pay for improvements in principal shopping districts and business improvement zones.

DEC. 21

SCHOOL SAFETY: Snyder signed laws to create a state Office of School Safety and require that schools develop emergency operations plans and conduct safety assessments with local law enforcement. School districts and charter schools will have to consult with police before building a new school or doing a major renovation. The bills were developed in the wake of mass shootings in Florida and Texas. (essentially gives the MSP jurisdiction over public school safety)

DRONES: Snyder signed laws to generally prohibit state agencies from using drones to surveil facilities that are subject to licensing or other government requirements. Exceptions include if the owners give express consent, if the departments have valid search warrants, if the state suspects there may be an imminent threat or the agencies are inspecting transportation infrastructure. Law enforcement investigations also are exempt. Snyder also signed laws making it a felony to operate drones in a way that interferes with key facilities such as refineries, power plants and cell towers.

ANIMAL CRUELTY: Snyder signed a law toughening prison sentences for �aggravated� animal cruelty offenses and making breeders and pet shops subject to criminal penalties.

OCCUPATIONAL LICENSING: Snyder signed laws to require the state licensing department to, upon request, tell people in advance if past criminal convictions disqualify them from being licensed to do work in the trades or other occupations. The move is designed to save would-be applicants from paying for education or training only to be denied a license down the line.

VETOES: Snyder vetoed bills that would have created a state income tax deduction for first-time homebuyers, given the legislative auditor general unrestricted access to confidential information in other branches of state government and delayed implementation of roomier enclosures for egg-laying hens.

DEC. 20

DEER STERILIZATION: Snyder signed a law to prohibit the state from issuing a permit to sterilize deer or other game animals until April 2022. An ongoing research program in Ann Arbor will continue. The Natural Resources Commission can issue more kill tags in urban areas with high concentrations of deer, and municipalities can shorten the 150-yard rule for shooting deer.

YOUTH HUNTING: Snyder signed a law to let 10-, 11-, 12- and 13-year-olds hunt deer, bear or elk on public lands - not just private property - as long as they are accompanied by a parent or other authorized adult.

TASTING ROOMS: Snyder signed laws to let brewer and microbrewers establish on-site tasting rooms where guests can sample their beer. The rooms currently are only allowed for wineries and distilleries.

DEC. 17

NASSAR BILLS: Snyder signed laws inspired by the Larry Nassar sexual abuse case, easing the prosecution of alleged abusers, stiffening child pornography penalties and letting more people speak at sentencings under certain circumstances.

AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES: Snyder signed a law to exempt truck �platoon� operations from a requirement to leave sufficient space so other vehicles can pass.

DEC. 14

MINIMUM WAGE: Snyder signed a law to slow down a boost in Michigan�s $9.25 an hour minimum wage, so it will gradually rise to $12.05 by 2030 instead of $12 by 2022 as required by a proposed ballot initiative that GOP lawmakers pre-emptively adopted in September to make it easier to amend after the election. The new law reverses a provision that would have brought a lower wage for tipped employees in line with the wage for other workers. It also repeals a provision - in a 2014 law - that ties future increases to inflation.

PAID SICK LEAVE: Snyder also signed a law to scale back a separate proposed ballot initiative to require paid sick leave for workers, after Republican legislators passed it under the same adopt-and-amend strategy. The new law exempts employers with fewer than 50 employees from having to provide earned sick days, a change that is estimated to leave up to 1 million employees without the benefit. It also limits the amount of annual mandatory leave at larger employers to 40 hours, instead of 72 hours as proposed by the initiative.

(Republicans hate it when poors make a living wage.)

DEC. 12

OIL PIPELINE: Snyder signed a law establishing a panel to oversee construction of an oil pipeline tunnel in the waterway linking Lakes Huron and Michigan. Opponents insisted the battle is not over and could widen from the state Capitol to the courts. Line 5 has carried crude oil and natural gas liquids used in propane 645 miles (1,038 kilometers) from Superior, Wisconsin, through northern Michigan to the Canadian city of Sarnia, Ontario, since 1953. Snyder and Enbridge Inc. agreed to replace the twin-pipe segment with a new pipe housed in a tunnel drilled through bedrock beneath the Straits of Mackinac. (Lawsuit pending)

WIRLESS TECHNOLOGY: Snyder signed laws to ease the wireless industry�s shift to next-generation technology with statewide regulations for the installation of a dense network of fifth-generation, or 5G, �small cells� on telephone poles, traffic signals and other infrastructure. (chuds hate this for some reason. They think the towers emit rays that will scramble their brains)

NOV. 15

ONLINE REGISTRATION: Snyder signed laws to establish online voter registration.

MOVE OVER LAW: Snyder signed a law to require drivers to slow by 10 mph below the posted speed limit when passing an emergency, maintenance or utility vehicle that is on the side of the road.

Several of these new laws are being challenged on whether they are constitutional.

# ? Feb 19, 2019 13:41

C-Euro: Mar 20, 2010; Soiled Meat

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

He's murdered people with his emergency managers. literally.

Shame AsInHowe doesn't post on the forums that I know of, he was on Snyder's campaign staff in 2010.

lol really? He posts in TFF every now and then. We went to rival small MI liberal arts schools and so I must put him on blast whenever I can.

# ? Feb 19, 2019 18:07