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Veni Vidi Ameche!
Nov 2, 2017

by Fluffdaddy

BlindSite posted:

Looks like a killer card.

Normally, I would say that virtually guarantees a snooze fest. However, I’m having a hard time imagining Max Holloway and Brian Ortega having a boring fight. Of course, the derail you mentioned is still possible.

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Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:

Normally, I would say that virtually guarantees a snooze fest. However, I’m having a hard time imagining Max Holloway and Brian Ortega having a boring fight. Of course, the derail you mentioned is still possible.

Holloway managed to have a dull fight against Jeremy Stephens. But that's pretty much the only one.

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?

CommonShore posted:

If when current MMA news is slow you'll give me the option between this thread being 1) discussion of funny or awesome UFC poo poo from days gone by or 2) whining about how UFC and posts aren't good anymore, I'll slam (1) so fast that my dick somehow gets caught in it.

it's kind of a shame, this forum used to be full of people who knew a lot about combat sports (as in actually knew a lot, not as in watch it and post about it a lot) and i think that's a bigger change than the jokes or whatever. when news gets slow there generally isn't much (useful, on point) analysis of upcoming fights anymore.

but i'm one of the ones who don't know anything so i'm not complaining.

turntabler
Sep 10, 2011

Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:

Normally, I would say that virtually guarantees a snooze fest. However, I’m having a hard time imagining Max Holloway and Brian Ortega having a boring fight. Of course, the derail you mentioned is still possible.

Ortega working hard to not engage max standing by moving away and jabbing, or clinching rapidly, and max trying to leave himself the least exposed possible on the ground?

I dont think this will happen. I like max a lot but I hope he doesn't get caught trying to prove a point after the recent cancelled fights and takes his time on Ortega.

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

Foul Fowl posted:

it's kind of a shame, this forum used to be full of people who knew a lot about combat sports (as in actually knew a lot, not as in watch it and post about it a lot) and i think that's a bigger change than the jokes or whatever. when news gets slow there generally isn't much (useful, on point) analysis of upcoming fights anymore.

but i'm one of the ones who don't know anything so i'm not complaining.

I think some of that is forum attrition (rip fatherdog, dunc et al.) and some is another consequence of the root problem of how goddamn hard it is to stay invested in the UFC these days as a fan, let alone as the kind of person who Has Discourse To Give. I've written some actual MMA stuff in my life and I could not come up with two hundred emotionally-invested words about Hakeem Dawodu vs Kyle Bochniak if you paid me, and that's a main-card fight on a goddamn pay-per-view. Later this month Zak Cummings has his tenth UFC fight across a half-decade tenure and not even his mom cares. Staying attached is tougher these days.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
FUCKIN GODDAMMIT LEBEN IS BACK

gently caress YOU

gently caress

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
I was free of this fuckin dipshit, I had a glorious episode without him, and here we are

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



BENGHAZI 2 posted:

I was free of this fuckin dipshit, I had a glorious episode without him, and here we are

That's how I felt about the last 18 hours of posting in this thread.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

JaySB posted:

That's how I felt about the last 18 hours of posting in this thread.

Post about something better then

Screama
Nov 25, 2007
Yes, I am very cereal.
Holloway and Shevchenko will both win handily.
Santos will get a 10-8 over Manuwa.
Gadelha finishes Ansaroff in the first.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)

CarlCX posted:

how goddamn hard it is to stay invested in the UFC these days as a fan

This is it. I'd love to discuss MMA but I don't follow it half as closely as I used to so I don't have much to say. For reasons MMAprofessors have already broken down in this thread, the UFC is less fun to get involved in these days

Zzulu fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Dec 5, 2018

Charles Gnarwin
Jul 31, 2014

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...


The UFC is looking to make Greg Hardy's debut on the same card as Rachel Ostovich fighting despite her husband attacking her recently. So there's your "gently caress the UFC" moment of the week.

Puckish Rogue
Jun 24, 2010

TheCool69 posted:

It makes me sad to hear everybody making GBS threads on Wes Sims.

He was (i think) the first dude to win via powerbomb In a MMA match!

He stomped the poo poo out of Murrr.

He was funny and cool, almost a cult fighter!

Most importantly he was Team Hammer House and therefore a god dosh darn legend.

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"

Charles Gnarwin posted:

The UFC is looking to make Greg Hardy's debut on the same card as Rachel Ostovich fighting despite her husband attacking her recently. So there's your "gently caress the UFC" moment of the week.

loving gross

Mean Bean Machine
May 9, 2008

Only when I breathe.

Charles Gnarwin posted:

The UFC is looking to make Greg Hardy's debut on the same card as Rachel Ostovich fighting despite her husband attacking her recently. So there's your "gently caress the UFC" moment of the week.

So what

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Charles Gnarwin posted:

The UFC is looking to make Greg Hardy's debut on the same card as Rachel Ostovich fighting despite her husband attacking her recently. So there's your "gently caress the UFC" moment of the week.

Not that the UFC wouldn't do this on its own, but I would be totally unsurprised if ESPN was calling the shot on that one as its their first show.

CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

by Reene

CarlCX posted:

I think some of that is forum attrition (rip fatherdog, dunc et al.) and some is another consequence of the root problem of how goddamn hard it is to stay invested in the UFC these days as a fan, let alone as the kind of person who Has Discourse To Give. I've written some actual MMA stuff in my life and I could not come up with two hundred emotionally-invested words about Hakeem Dawodu vs Kyle Bochniak if you paid me, and that's a main-card fight on a goddamn pay-per-view. Later this month Zak Cummings has his tenth UFC fight across a half-decade tenure and not even his mom cares. Staying attached is tougher these days.

Hakeem Dawodu:

-Kicked me very hard once.

-Yelled at me for not turning my hip over on kicks enough (I deserved it).

-Occasionally taught wearing fancy designer clothes because no one really cared about the extremely poorly attended afternoon Muay Thai classes I was a regular at.

- A couple of times, I was the only person that showed up that day and got free personal training. His solution to that was to make you do one on one padwork at such a high intensity that you collapsed after half an hour and he could go home early (he also did this with people who weren't me).

-Rumoured to have peed on a girl I went to high school with.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Charles Gnarwin posted:

The UFC is looking to make Greg Hardy's debut on the same card as Rachel Ostovich fighting despite her husband attacking her recently. So there's your "gently caress the UFC" moment of the week.

That is insanely dumb and bad.

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

They love it. Getting moral superiority without doing anything

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Zzulu posted:

This is it. I'd love to discuss MMA but I don't follow it half as closely as I used to so I don't have much to say. For reasons MMAprofessors have already broken down in this thread, the UFC is less fun to get involved in these days

Nah

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?

CarlCX posted:

I think some of that is forum attrition (rip fatherdog, dunc et al.) and some is another consequence of the root problem of how goddamn hard it is to stay invested in the UFC these days as a fan, let alone as the kind of person who Has Discourse To Give. I've written some actual MMA stuff in my life and I could not come up with two hundred emotionally-invested words about Hakeem Dawodu vs Kyle Bochniak if you paid me, and that's a main-card fight on a goddamn pay-per-view. Later this month Zak Cummings has his tenth UFC fight across a half-decade tenure and not even his mom cares. Staying attached is tougher these days.

holloway/ortega is an amazing fight, it’s not like ufc is wall to wall poo poo. i don’t think that has so much to do with it.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Charles Gnarwin posted:

The UFC is looking to make Greg Hardy's debut on the same card as Rachel Ostovich fighting despite her husband attacking her recently. So there's your "gently caress the UFC" moment of the week.

Goddamn that's disgusting

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

Didn’t espn just get poo poo on for their terrible MNF announcers running a game length PSA on domestic violence?

Lol

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

Holy poo poo. Eryk Anders is fighting this weekend? I'm surprised he's ready to go again after that last one.

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
Hes fighting Theodorou, who is incapable of pushing any kind of pace. Eryk might get winded from all the circling, tho

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Skip My Posts posted:

They love it. Getting moral superiority without doing anything

Eat poo poo

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Eat poo poo

He wants to feel moral superiority for believing nothing.

Good luck!

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

LobsterMobster posted:

Hes fighting Theodorou, who is incapable of pushing any kind of pace. Eryk might get winded from all the circling, tho

I really do like Elias when it involves anything but his tedious style.

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"

TheKingslayer posted:

I really do like Elias when it involves anything but his tedious style.

Hes certainly the perfect romance novel cover guy cuz he wont finish early

BaggySteve
Dec 4, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Charles Gnarwin posted:

The UFC is looking to make Greg Hardy's debut on the same card as Rachel Ostovich fighting despite her husband attacking her recently. So there's your "gently caress the UFC" moment of the week.

Who cares? greg hardy is a piece of poo poo no matter what card he fights on. fighting on the same.card as rachel doesnt matter at all and is a stupid thing to get mad about

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

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Charles Gnarwin posted:

The UFC is looking to make Greg Hardy's debut on the same card as Rachel Ostovich fighting despite her husband attacking her recently. So there's your "gently caress the UFC" moment of the week.

Who are any of these people and why should I care?

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


1st AD posted:

Who are any of these people and why should I care?

Greg Hardy is a serious domestic abuser

Rachel Ostrovich is a recent and public victim of serious domestic abuse.

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Eat poo poo

Suck my dick you lil bitch

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

CRISPYBABY posted:

-Occasionally taught wearing fancy designer clothes because no one really cared about the extremely poorly attended afternoon Muay Thai classes I was a regular at.

- A couple of times, I was the only person that showed up that day and got free personal training. His solution to that was to make you do one on one padwork at such a high intensity that you collapsed after half an hour and he could go home early (he also did this with people who weren't me).

-Rumoured to have peed on a girl I went to high school with.

This is the most quintessentially A Fighter thing I have ever read.

Foul Fowl posted:

holloway/ortega is an amazing fight, it's not like ufc is wall to wall poo poo. i don't think that has so much to do with it.

That's part of the problem, though. Holloway/Ortega is a loving great fight that I am going to be quietly tense about somehow not happening until they're actually in the cage. But if you're A UFC Fan, you've only had about three days to focus on it because three days ago was JDS/Tuivasa and The Ongoing Tragedy of Shogun, and two days before that was RDA/Usman and Bryan Caraway getting loving murdered which in a just world we would still be celebrating, and six days before that was Blaydes/Ngannou and the return of Overeem, which was seven days after Magny/Ponzinibbio and Lamas/Elkins which was seven days after TKZ/Yair and Cerrone/Perry which was seven days after Cormier/Lewis and Jacare/Weidman.

There is no way a lack of high-quality matchups in the UFC, but they're happening with such crammed-together frequency that if you're trying to follow them all there's barely any time to get hyped the way something like Holloway/Ortega deserves, and a bunch of other matches on the cards are chaff that barely hold interest. It is simultaneously too much and too little. It's the reason so many people make "things are slow" comments even though we are loving drowning in fight cards with some really good fights on them.

also is it already time to have our monthly fight about caring vs not caring about things

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

https://youtu.be/SVVHAeem6uQ

mewse
May 2, 2006

CarlCX posted:

That's part of the problem, though. Holloway/Ortega is a loving great fight that I am going to be quietly tense about somehow not happening until they're actually in the cage. But if you're A UFC Fan, you've only had about three days to focus on it because three days ago was JDS/Tuivasa and The Ongoing Tragedy of Shogun, and two days before that was RDA/Usman and Bryan Caraway getting loving murdered which in a just world we would still be celebrating, and six days before that was Blaydes/Ngannou and the return of Overeem, which was seven days after Magny/Ponzinibbio and Lamas/Elkins which was seven days after TKZ/Yair and Cerrone/Perry which was seven days after Cormier/Lewis and Jacare/Weidman.

There is no way a lack of high-quality matchups in the UFC, but they're happening with such crammed-together frequency that if you're trying to follow them all there's barely any time to get hyped the way something like Holloway/Ortega deserves, and a bunch of other matches on the cards are chaff that barely hold interest. It is simultaneously too much and too little. It's the reason so many people make "things are slow" comments even though we are loving drowning in fight cards with some really good fights on them.

also is it already time to have our monthly fight about caring vs not caring about things

So you're saying with the packed schedule the ebb & flow of hype is disrupted, and the climaxes are too frequent? They keep coming and coming and it's hard to get excited anymore?

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

CommonShore posted:

Greg Hardy is a serious domestic abuser

Rachel Ostrovich is a recent and public victim of serious domestic abuse.


Skip My Posts posted:

Suck my dick you lil bitch

CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

by Reene
Sometimes I wonder if it's just inherent to human psychology. Team sports are easy to follow because you have a a home team yo root for and the natural climax of a season. Individual sports that run year round don't have any natural points to grab on to other than picking a handful of names to care about.

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

mewse posted:

So you're saying with the packed schedule the ebb & flow of hype is disrupted, and the climaxes are too frequent? They keep coming and coming and it's hard to get excited anymore?

And I'd usually say just skip the ones between ppv cards. But then you end up eventually watching a ppv with a bunch of guys you don't know poo poo about because you skipped UFC Fight: Scranton or what the poo poo ever.

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BaggySteve
Dec 4, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

CRISPYBABY posted:

Sometimes I wonder if it's just inherent to human psychology. Team sports are easy to follow because you have a a home team yo root for and the natural climax of a season. Individual sports that run year round don't have any natural points to grab on to other than picking a handful of names to care about.

combat sports are abiut 3 things

1. the story
2. guys who do things you like (cool KOs, submissiobs, or if youre me guys who lay on people)
3. guys yiu want to win so you get to hear them talk more (tito ortiz, tony ferguson, jacob volkmann)

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