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Phylodox posted:I don't think it would work. Half the appeal of the CW DC shows is that they're so cheap and schlocky and fun. They harken back to, like, the late-90s/early-00s made-for-syndication adventure shows like Highlander, Birds of Prey, and Relic Hunter. Looking like a big budget blockbuster film wouldn't enhance that in any real way, it would just highlight how cheesy everything else about it is. You take that back. There is no way that the CW shows are on the same level of incompetent terribleness that was Birds of Prey
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Madkal posted:You take that back. There is no way that the CW shows are on the same level of incompetent terribleness that was Birds of Prey Good news is, the Birds of Prey universe got wiped out during Crisis.
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May 21, 2020 23:06
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Madkal posted:You take that back. There is no way that the CW shows are on the same level of incompetent terribleness that was Birds of Prey They absolutely are, but they realized it a while ago and leaned into it to their benefit. Legends of Tomorrow is the dumbest show on television, and it’s incalculably better for it.
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May 21, 2020 23:26
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Madkal posted:You take that back. There is no way that the CW shows are on the same level of incompetent terribleness that was Birds of Prey hey now, I love both of those levels of incompetence. They are just great. Also, huntress needs her own spin off movie.
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May 21, 2020 23:43
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Birds of Prey felt like GotG2 to me - just getting straight up it’s own rear end based off the popularity of the film before it and, imo, falling flat. Whereas Deadpool 2 did it well but that’s generally the gamble with all sequels.
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May 21, 2020 23:56
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They're talking about the TV show.
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May 21, 2020 23:58
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Dawgstar posted:"We can't have TWO characters named Jessica!" seems like something that would stop studios from using Drew. Meanwhile behind the scenes everyone is called Chris, Tom or Benedict.
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May 22, 2020 00:02
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Aphrodite posted:They're talking about the TV show. Oh sorry, I was on my phone when I read that and it didn't click. I think that one never aired in my country, poor show. At least they got some sort of an ending on The Crisis special.
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May 22, 2020 00:03
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Guardians 2 is superior to the original, by the way. Unburdened by setting up the entire space corner of the MCU and establishing new characters, it uses the film to have genuine introspection on everyone that isn't Groot. And it's wonderful across the board. Rocket, Gamora, and Nebula especially are way better in 2 than in the first movie.
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May 22, 2020 00:57
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Madkal posted:You take that back. There is no way that the CW shows are on the same level of incompetent terribleness that was Birds of Prey They're significantly worse.
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May 22, 2020 01:21
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Codependent Poster posted:I think the Spider-Woman thing is complicated. Like Marvel can use Jessica Drew but can't call her Spider-Woman, and if you want to use her like a secret agent/detective there are other characters that would probably fit in better without any confusion. I've always wondered why she's called Spider-Woman in the first place, other than of course to sell comics when she was created. She flies and shoots energy blasts from her hands. Not the first things that come to mind when I think of the abilities of a spider.
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May 22, 2020 02:27
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GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:I've always wondered why she's called Spider-Woman in the first place, other than of course to sell comics when she was created. She flies and shoots energy blasts from her hands. Not the first things that come to mind when I think of the abilities of a spider. No joke because the original idea for her was "A spider turned into a human" which later became "Hydra implanted spider juice into her because Nazi reasons." The actual reason is because they were worried about the Spider-Woman trademark being snapped up after you had things like Power Man at Marvel vs Power Girl at DC or Wonder Man at Marvel vs Wonder Woman at DC.
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May 22, 2020 02:31
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GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:I've always wondered why she's called Spider-Woman in the first place, other than of course to sell comics when she was created. She flies and shoots energy blasts from her hands. Not the first things that come to mind when I think of the abilities of a spider. quote:Marvel Comics' then-publisher Stan Lee, said in 1978, shortly after Spider-Woman's debut in Marvel Spotlight #32 and the start of the character's 50-issue, self-titled series (April 1978 - June 1983), that the character originated because I love Jessica Drew and I love that she only exists because comic politics are petty and silly and stupid. But yeah, the exact answer is that the quick and dirty story they rushed out just to copyright "Spider-Woman" was an actual spider woman. Then they just redesigned her when they decided to keep her around. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 02:36 on May 22, 2020 |
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May 22, 2020 02:33
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GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:I've always wondered why she's called Spider-Woman in the first place, other than of course to sell comics when she was created. She flies and shoots energy blasts from her hands. Not the first things that come to mind when I think of the abilities of a spider. Because Comics, but technically her energy blasts are 'bio-electric venom' I think. Just like a spider!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mj5FZ_FxG8 Here's Zack Snyder kind of bumbling his way through a Man of Steel commentary with some input from some guests and his personal storyboards, should that be your thing.
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May 22, 2020 17:07
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I sort of feel like the summation of Zack Snyder is that he decided that showing off visual sketches of his own storyboards during what is essentially an audio track to a motion picture is the perfect way to deliver commentary. What a lovable, dumb jock.
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Dawgstar posted:"We can't have TWO characters named Jessica!" seems like something that would stop studios from using Drew. Studio Exec: "We want to release a film but can't have two characters named Jessica, just come up with another name like Jane Drew or something, but not as stupid." Writers: "..." Announcer: "Coming this November the adventures of Jane Drew!"
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Dan Didio posted:I sort of feel like the summation of Zack Snyder is that he decided that showing off visual sketches of his own storyboards during what is essentially an audio track to a motion picture is the perfect way to deliver commentary. What a lovable, dumb jock. I believe The Watchmen is like this too where you can get a split screen with his sketches for things.
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May 22, 2020 18:13
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Hellboy (the good one) had a option where you could watch the actors as they gave commentary.
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Dawgstar posted:"We can't have TWO characters named Jessica!" seems like something that would stop studios from using Drew. 
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I just went down a post search/rap sheet hole that eventually led to me discovering that a bunch of goons think Captain America raped Peggy Carter when he went back in time. I just had to actually express that to someone to process it fully and move past it.
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STAC Goat posted:I just went down a post search/rap sheet hole that eventually led to me discovering that a bunch of goons think Captain America raped Peggy Carter when he went back in time. Yeah, I remember that. I think it started as SuperMechagodzilla doing his usual schtick of saying something provocative to try and get attention.
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May 22, 2020 19:57
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Davros1 posted:Hellboy (the good one) had a option where you could watch the actors as they gave commentary. That's one of the best commentaries on DVD - so goddamn good, Perlman is gold.
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May 22, 2020 20:01
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STAC Goat posted:I just went down a post search/rap sheet hole that eventually led to me discovering that a bunch of goons think Captain America raped Peggy Carter when he went back in time. Yeah it was wild. Even given the most uncharitable interpretation of his actions there's no actual textual evidence he didn't tell her he was from the future/alternate timeline/reality/however the hell time travel is supposed to work
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Yeah it was wild. Even given the most uncharitable interpretation of his actions there's no actual textual evidence he didn't tell her he was from the future/alternate timeline/reality/however the hell time travel is supposed to work Yeah I assume he showed up at her door, she probably freaked out and either kissed or hit him or both, then asked how the gently caress he's there and he told her the whole thing.
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Vince MechMahon posted:Yeah I assume he showed up at her door, she probably freaked out and either kissed or hit him or both, then asked how the gently caress he's there and he told her the whole thing. Also, he's Capt America. "I swam home." wouldn't be too far fetched.
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Cap is like the most altruistic good-natured boy scout this side of Superman, what deranged idiots would genuinely believe he’d do anything like that? This is 100% what he did: Vince MechMahon posted:Yeah I assume he showed up at her door, she probably freaked out and either kissed or hit him or both, then asked how the gently caress he's there and he told her the whole thing. Peggy’s in SHIELD and has seen some poo poo, she probably figured it out before Cap even got the chance to tell her.
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Davros1 posted:Also, he's Capt America. "I swam home." wouldn't be too far fetched. So, of course, according to the brokebrained hivemind, that's absolutely exactly what Steve did for sure. (It's less of a big deal if we're going by the theory where Steve somehow magically bucked the rules that were established in this very film and ended up in his actual own timeline, but building a whole lifetime together out of a flat lie like "don't worry about it, I swam home" is still not super cool.)
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BrianWilly posted:
Steve had the time stone, he could have done proper time travel instead of the alternate universe thing.
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Even if he did, the universe wouldn’t split until that point so he’s not even technically a parallel Steve
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Cap is like the most altruistic good-natured boy scout this side of Superman, what deranged idiots would genuinely believe he’d do anything like that? Again, no one actually believes this. It’s totally performative competitive provocation. It’s like the whole thing where Black Panther is unironically a CIA psy op. No sane person believes that, it’s just a really weird thought exercise.
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https://www.bunkhistory.org/resources/2835quote:One of the people who responded to Garza’s post, Crystal M. Hayes, is the child of a still-incarcerated member of the BPP, Robert Seth Hayes. Hayes lamented that while a meme showing her father and other still incarcerated members of the BPP superimposed over an image of the movie poster had 50,000 shares on Facebook, she was still having a hard time raising $10,000 for a legal defense fund. Others noted the ways in which cast members of the film perpetuated and flirted with the legacy of the Party, posing with imagery that invoked it on the covers of GQ and Rolling Stone. Influential journalist Davey D. Cook noted that given the movie’s prominent themes and its director’s hometown of Oakland, California, which was also the birthplace of the BPP, comparisons between the film and the organization were not only unavoidable but also completely necessary. Robert Seth Hayes died shortly after being released after being wrongly imprisoned for decades. Claiming that the only criticism against BP is some nutter conspiracy theory is very ingenuous to the very real problems inherent with that movie and it’s hegemonic audience. ruddiger fucked around with this message at 03:26 on May 23, 2020 |
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Black Panther might not be a CIA psyop, but the inclusion of a heroic CIA character being involved in a civil war in an African country is in the best case scenario an incredibly tone deaf move caused by cluelessness and ignorance (likely with someone white involved).
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May 23, 2020 03:41
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ruddiger posted:https://www.bunkhistory.org/resources/2835 Ugly In The Morning posted:Steve had the time stone, he could have done proper time travel instead of the alternate universe thing. ...Actually, that might work I guess.
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BrianWilly posted:It's cool how no one's saying that's the only thing wrong with the movie then and it's deffo super cool that the Socialism For Babies brigade keeps on bringing up that exact specific half-assed idiotic critique over and over and over again and we all know it and have kept the receipts so let's not even play this game. I refuse to believe Steve would take the risk that he might die before bringing the stone back.
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He might have dropped the Time stone off last and just asked The Ancient One for a favor.
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Black Panther is, ironically, a CIA psyop.
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I think the point of SMG's bizarre argument was that Endgame was so poorly scripted that the fact it was even possible to infer that Steve Rogers was a rapist was proof of the film's flaws. It felt like a really loving lazy and selfconsciously edgy take to me - and I usually have a lot of time for SMG.
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Necrothatcher posted:I think the point of SMG's bizarre argument was that Endgame was so poorly scripted that the fact it was even possible to infer that Steve Rogers was a rapist was proof of the film's flaws. That's an incredible generous reading of those posts.
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it is essentially satire: taking a text to absurd lengths in order to destroy it. it's deliberately provocative but not, perhaps, performative but the scene is nonsense - illustrated by the writers and directors not even being able to agree on what was happening post facto. more thought went into what happened on this page than it did in the film
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