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ImpAtom posted:They said "Who else is afraid the villain in Shang Chi " I see that now.
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Aphrodite posted:Excuse me that's nationalism. Concluding that because the star of the film is Chinese-Canadian the film must be loyal to the CCP is racist.
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Fangz posted:Concluding that because the star of the film is Chinese-Canadian the film must be loyal to the CCP is racist. I'm not putting it on the stars, but Disney themselves who has a history of doing this. The movie having a mainly Asian cast means they are making sure it will sell in China. Just like Mulan.
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Jul 3, 2020 13:02
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The MSJ posted:I'm not putting it on the stars, but Disney themselves who has a history of doing this. The movie having a mainly Asian cast means they are making sure it will sell in China. Just like Mulan. It's still racist. Mulan isn't even out yet, so where's this "history" of doing this? I didn't realise the plot of Mulan is about why the chinese government's actions in Hong Kong are good. In the case of Mulan you have a lead actress who made lovely remarks. That's on her. Every studio makes sure all of their big budget movies will sell well in China. But you picking out asian casts (which includes Malaysians etc) as causing you to expect something of the political content of the movies they are in (beyond merely not offending Chinese censors, but rather being actively pro-CCP oppression) is bad and you should delete your lovely posts. Asians have enough issues with getting cast in leading roles in Hollywood without your bullshit. Fangz fucked around with this message at 13:23 on Jul 3, 2020 |
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Isnt Shang Chi's whole thing us that his dad is the racist stereotype Fu Manchu? Theres gonna be alotta rewriting of his character regardless
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The MSJ posted:Hollywood movies trying not to upset the Chinese government, which includes the first Doctor Strange movie. And especially a movie with a mostly Asian cast. The MSJ posted:I'm not putting it on the stars, but Disney themselves who has a history of doing this. The movie having a mainly Asian cast means they are making sure it will sell in China. Just like Mulan. Anyway, https://twitter.com/SimuLiu/status/1268949845571538944 https://twitter.com/SimuLiu/status/1268933819693821954 https://twitter.com/SimuLiu/status/1270190452759605254 https://twitter.com/SimuLiu/status/1270329387364216833 https://twitter.com/SimuLiu/status/1271932649729167360
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Jul 3, 2020 13:46
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Yo fuckin hell yeah to Simu then. Give that dude as many platforms as he can handle while also remaining sane and living a fulfilling private life.
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Jul 3, 2020 13:57
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I knew this guy was cast as Shang Chi, but had no idea who he was otherwise. Now I'm a big fan, and I'm following him on Twitter.
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Jul 3, 2020 14:34
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We are binge-watching Scrubs on Hulu (my wife's first time, and I never saw the last four or five seasons back when it aired), and now I kinda want John C. McGinley to play Norman Osborn in the MCU.
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Shageletic posted:Isnt Shang Chi's whole thing us that his dad is the racist stereotype Fu Manchu? Theres gonna be alotta rewriting of his character regardless I’ll spoiler this just in case, but they’ve said his backstory will be rewritten to make The Mandarin his father.
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Kevin Smith is I think one of the few people who could really get people to pay attention to the accusations about Whedon, so good. (It sucks that someone has to 'pay attention' to those accusations because a white nerdy guy said it but y'know.)
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BrianWilly posted:Anyway, Yeah, Simu can get it.
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Listening to it, what Smith says is that Joss was openly negative about the Snydercut on set and it made some of the people that worked on it feel uncomfortable. Which is a rude thing to do. It is not quite what the headline makes you think. I wanna make it clear that I'm not a Whedon stan. I want him to be under fire for the allegations his wife made against him and I'm open to him being criticized for his poor handling of PoC in his work. Both are really great conversations. What I don't want is for Joss Whedon to be under fire because he thought the Snyder version of Justice League sucked and people want the Snydercut. That's letting him off so easy and it's bothering me. I mean I know this is the comic book movie thread, so we're not going to have those complex and difficult conversations. Just...idk. Fisher likes the Snydercut and hates that his part got minimized. That's a different thing. Smith even says in this clip that he's going largely on speculation and doesn't want to be quoted or used as "Ah these guys back up these claims".
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No matter how Shang Chi turns out, and how badly the movie handles its politics, casting Simu Liu might be their best decision.
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Jul 4, 2020 00:24
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The original Deadly Hands of Kung Fu comic had Shang Chi fighting Fu Manchu, so I don't think its politics and handling of race can be any worse than that.
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SonicRulez posted:Listening to it, what Smith says is that Joss was openly negative about the Snydercut on set and it made some of the people that worked on it feel uncomfortable. Which is a rude thing to do. It is not quite what the headline makes you think. I wanna make it clear that I'm not a Whedon stan. I want him to be under fire for the allegations his wife made against him and I'm open to him being criticized for his poor handling of PoC in his work. Both are really great conversations. What I don't want is for Joss Whedon to be under fire because he thought the Snyder version of Justice League sucked and people want the Snydercut. That's letting him off so easy and it's bothering me. I mean I know this is the comic book movie thread, so we're not going to have those complex and difficult conversations. Just...idk. Fisher likes the Snydercut and hates that his part got minimized. That's a different thing. Headlines: "KEVIN SMITH BACKS UP ABUSE CLAIMS" This is exactly why I've been constantly wary that people, both here and elsewhere, would start citing their enjoyment of "progressive," "unproblematic" content as indications of their own personal wokeness. It's happened before with this Snyder-Whedon bullshit and it's happening again now. Of course advocate for progressive content, but like, no one's automatically a good or bad person just for the movies they enjoy. Like it'd be ridiculous for me to claim that I'm some great feminist just because I like Patty Jenkins and WW or whatever. And honestly I have been down that road of self-righteousness before. It was dumb.
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The Old Guard movie debuted on Netflix today, starring Charlize Theron and written by Greg Rucka, based on a comic I've never read by Rucka and Leandro Fernandez. The movie is awesome. My wife and I both really enjoyed it. It's an action movie with some cool and clever twists on the formula, and the less you know going in, the more of a kick you'll get out of it.
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I haven't had the time to sit down and watch it, but I'm pretty excited, the trailer looked really fun and Theron is in that Reeves, Hemsworth style pantheon for me where I'll watch any high concept action slurry they're in because they're just so drat good in those roles.
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Different perspective: I read both volumes and am a huge fan of Rucka (and Theron) but was incredibly disappointed. The dialogue is poor, the story is rushed and pretty much the only thing the film has going for it are the action scenes. A lot of potential wasted IMO.
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Kaleidoscope posted:Different perspective: I read both volumes and am a huge fan of Rucka (and Theron) but was incredibly disappointed. The dialogue is poor, the story is rushed and pretty much the only thing the film has going for it are the action scenes. A lot of potential wasted IMO. After seeing the terrible Whiteout movie, this is what I was afraid of.
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Kaleidoscope posted:Different perspective: I read both volumes and am a huge fan of Rucka (and Theron) but was incredibly disappointed. The dialogue is poor, the story is rushed and pretty much the only thing the film has going for it are the action scenes. A lot of potential wasted IMO. I don't necessarily disagree with this because every plot twist is incredibly transparent, but at the same time, all I wanted was to see was Charlize Theron whip some rear end, which she does in spades, so I was satisfied.
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Its a decent movie without any outstanding single qualities. A bit like that recent Chris Hemsworth one Extraction in that its probably better than I would have predicted. But I watched it with a couple of early teenagers and they loved it. I don't know if/where they go with the franchise since it seems to be setup for immediate sequels but as I was watching it I was thinking of the possibilities of prequels set at various times in history.
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Apparently Suicide Squad's iconic soundtrack was not even part of David Ayer's version. This is the most surprising thing for me, since it's so perfectly tied to the final release. https://twitter.com/DavidAyerMovies/status/1282006427087691777?s=19
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The MSJ posted:so perfectly tied to the final release.
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The theatrical release was a mess, the soundtrack complements it.
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The MSJ posted:Apparently Suicide Squad's iconic soundtrack "iconic"
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I thought it was kind of obvious that they were knocking off GotG's thing with those songs
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Kelly Preston died and she was in Sky High which was a super hero film and also awesome and she was a lovely person and it's really tragic.
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Rhyno posted:Kelly Preston died and she was in Sky High which was a super hero film and also awesome and she was a lovely person and it's really tragic. I admittedly don't know much about her other than that she was fairly high up with Scientology...
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Lager posted:I admittedly don't know much about her other than that she was fairly high up with Scientology... Unlike Tom Cruise, I haven't seen many accusations that Travolta and Preston used their positions in Scientology to engage in predatory behavior; they seem more like mild victims of the cult, giving enormous amounts of their fortune to it and not receiving anything of value in return. There's some evidence that Scientology's beliefs about psychiatry probably led them to seek less than effective reatments for their son Jett, who had autism, but they have been pretty big proponents of autism research since then and at least they aren't anti-Vaxx.
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Jul 13, 2020 15:05
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Really leaning into that Scrambleporn aesthetic, aren't they?
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Jul 13, 2020 15:12
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Whoa, I'm seein' double! '84 Cheetahs!
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:Unlike Tom Cruise, I haven't seen many accusations that Travolta and Preston used their positions in Scientology to engage in predatory behavior; they seem more like mild victims of the cult, giving enormous amounts of their fortune to it and not receiving anything of value in return. There's some evidence that Scientology's beliefs about psychiatry probably led them to seek less than effective reatments for their son Jett, who had autism, but they have been pretty big proponents of autism research since then and at least they aren't anti-Vaxx. There have been rumors for ages that Travolta is partially trapped because Scientology has dirt on him.
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Aphrodite posted:There have been rumors for ages that Travolta is partially trapped because Scientology has dirt on him.
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I thought there were fairly credible accusations of trying to take advantage of masseuses, like with Al Gore
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John Wick of Dogs posted:I thought there were fairly credible accusations of trying to take advantage of masseuses, like with Al Gore Masseurs. Both accusers were men. They were dropped, which probably means they got a payoff.
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Aphrodite posted:Masseurs. Both accusers were men. Huh, I did not realize that was a gendered noun
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Yeah, everything in French is gendered. Chairs are female. Couches are male. Massage therapist is the new preferred neutral term, apparently.
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