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I too can't wait for this super gay young avengers film coming to theaters near you in 2050 when Disney finally thinks it's okay to have gay people in movies
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Feb 5, 2019 16:47
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Rhyno posted:The CW shows are gay as hell. Like, gayer tha hell. Even Satan couldn't be that gay if he fuckin tried. Wanna elaborate?
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Feb 5, 2019 16:56
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Shageletic posted:Wanna elaborate? There's numerous open characters in the CWverse and it has enraged the chuds.
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Feb 5, 2019 17:02
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Rhyno posted:The CW shows are gay as hell. Like, gayer tha hell. Even Satan couldn't be that gay if he fuckin tried. Shageletic posted:Wanna elaborate? If you want specifics, the original Black Canary and Mr Terrific from Arrow, Flash's Daughter and the police chief (captain?) Singh from Flash, Thunder from Black Lightning, Supergirl's human sister Alex, Earth X's Captain Cold...And I'm probably forgetting a few. They are openly gay, and it's kind of nice that it's never really drawn attention to explicitly - with the exception of Alex coming out being the focus of an episode or two. It's usually just "my boyfriend and I are..." or "My wife said..."
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Feb 5, 2019 22:34
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CzarChasm posted:If you want specifics, the original Black Canary and Mr Terrific from Arrow, Flash's Daughter and the police chief (captain?) Singh from Flash, Thunder from Black Lightning, Supergirl's human sister Alex, Earth X's Captain Cold...And I'm probably forgetting a few. They are openly gay, and it's kind of nice that it's never really drawn attention to explicitly - with the exception of Alex coming out being the focus of an episode or two. It's usually just "my boyfriend and I are..." or "My wife said..." Batwoman, obviously. And Supergirl has a trans character now too, right?
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Feb 5, 2019 23:29
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So ive seen a few tweets like this but nothing with a screenshot or link to an interview where this was said?? https://twitter.com/Great_Katzby/status/1092906720106606597?s=19
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Feb 5, 2019 23:31
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CzarChasm posted:If you want specifics, the original Black Canary and Mr Terrific from Arrow, Flash's Daughter and the police chief (captain?) Singh from Flash, Thunder from Black Lightning, Supergirl's human sister Alex, Earth X's Captain Cold...And I'm probably forgetting a few. They are openly gay, and it's kind of nice that it's never really drawn attention to explicitly - with the exception of Alex coming out being the focus of an episode or two. It's usually just "my boyfriend and I are..." or "My wife said..." White Canary is bi and in a committed lesbian relationship, and John Constantine is also bi and was shown with a man he clearly loved.
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Feb 5, 2019 23:35
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CzarChasm posted:If you want specifics, the original Black Canary and Mr Terrific from Arrow, Flash's Daughter and the police chief (captain?) Singh from Flash, Thunder from Black Lightning, Supergirl's human sister Alex, Earth X's Captain Cold...And I'm probably forgetting a few. They are openly gay, and it's kind of nice that it's never really drawn attention to explicitly - with the exception of Alex coming out being the focus of an episode or two. It's usually just "my boyfriend and I are..." or "My wife said..." Oh that's cool, but being explicit about it is cool too I feel like this is another sneaky attempt to make me watch CW superhero shows again
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Feb 5, 2019 23:37
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site posted:So ive seen a few tweets like this but nothing with a screenshot or link to an interview where this was said?? Probably said it on the Disney Earnings call today.
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Feb 5, 2019 23:53
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site posted:So ive seen a few tweets like this but nothing with a screenshot or link to an interview where this was said?? Disney's Q1 FY19 Earnings call was this afternoon so probably there?
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Feb 5, 2019 23:53
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Yeah found this short variety article https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1092914649727680513?s=19
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Feb 5, 2019 23:54
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I don't imagine Ryan Reynold's contract carries over to Disney after the buyout, so I wonder if they will try to afford him or just replace him.
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Feb 5, 2019 23:56
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Weren't the dp movies relatively cheap compared to the average mcu film?
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Feb 6, 2019 00:02
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site posted:Weren't the dp movies relatively cheap compared to the average mcu film? The first one was at least. But now you gotta renegotiate and who knows what someone would want to be locked back in.
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Feb 6, 2019 00:04
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Jamesman posted:I don't imagine Ryan Reynold's contract carries over to Disney after the buyout, so I wonder if they will try to afford him or just replace him. I would think they know that he’s a huge part of why those movies succeeded. I can’t imagine the company that swung for getting RDJ in Cap 3 and Spider Man would cheap out on getting Reynolds back.
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Feb 6, 2019 00:08
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I mean on the one hand disney might see the value in giving the guy who made dp happen in the first place a raise but on the other it's Disney and what is Reynolds gonna do if they don't, walk away and go back to doing romcoms? I'm gonna guess him staying is gonna be more dependent on how much creative control he gets to keep rather than his salary
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Feb 6, 2019 00:20
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Vince MechMahon posted:And Supergirl has a trans character now too, right? Yeah but given the awkward not-a-date with Brainy I think she's straight.
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Feb 6, 2019 00:26
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Shageletic posted:Oh that's cool, but being explicit about it is cool too You should at least watch Black Lighting because it is the best CW show and also has open and unapologetic lesbians of color. Also interracial relationships where neither party is white, which I appreciate tbh
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Feb 6, 2019 00:34
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Koalas March posted:You should at least watch Black Lighting because it is the best CW show and also has open and unapologetic lesbians of color. And week in week out one of the best soundtracks on television.
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Feb 6, 2019 01:06
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Jamesman posted:I don't imagine Ryan Reynold's contract carries over to Disney after the buyout, so I wonder if they will try to afford him or just replace him. Good point. Disney really needs to watch their bottom line.
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Feb 6, 2019 01:24
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howe_sam posted:And week in week out one of the best soundtracks on television. 
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Jamesman posted:I don't imagine Ryan Reynold's contract carries over to Disney after the buyout, so I wonder if they will try to afford him or just replace him.
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Feb 6, 2019 01:32
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Koalas March posted:You should at least watch Black Lighting because it is the best CW show and also has open and unapologetic lesbians of color. oh yeah that's the exception that looks tight but there's so much good tv right now. But i'll get around to it.
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Feb 6, 2019 01:32
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site posted:So ive seen a few tweets like this but nothing with a screenshot or link to an interview where this was said?? Oh hey the exact thing I’ve been saying for months despite everyone insisting Disney was a wholesome family company and wouldn’t stand for butts and swears in a movie *Shocker*, Disney likes money and was never going to shoot themselves in the foot by cancelling a popular and lucrative film series.
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Feb 6, 2019 02:11
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Deadpool is also incredibly non-challenging. It has swears and violence but it's very adolescent swears and violence, and isn't presenting any radical ideas or anything that might upset anyone or hurt their bottom line.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Oh hey the exact thing I’ve been saying for months despite everyone insisting Disney was a wholesome family company and wouldn’t stand for butts and swears in a movie I will cop to having doubts and being wrong here https://twitter.com/ColliderVideo/status/1092941309038317568?s=19 Make sure to pee before going in the theater
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Feb 6, 2019 02:42
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site posted:Make sure to pee before going in the theater Just ask for an empty drink cup. Most will give it to you without any fuss.
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site posted:I mean on the one hand disney might see the value in giving the guy who made dp happen in the first place a raise but on the other it's Disney and what is Reynolds gonna do if they don't, walk away and go back to doing romcoms? Doesn't RR get a percentage of the gross right now for DP? That might be more important than the salary.
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Feb 6, 2019 03:50
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Honestly I'm hoping they let him produce all their X-men movies, it's clear he loves the material and wants to see them done right.
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For the record I'm not saying that you can't have lgbtqia+ characters in media and make money, but Disney aims for billions of dollars return investment on their tentpole films, and this leads to them being as politically safe as possible because of fear of losing even 1% of return on investment from people put off by even the slightest political stance. Lots of the countries they market to are much more opposed to same sex couples or transgender people than even the US is, and these prejudices become magnified if you involve young people. I would love to be proven wrong but I just can't imagine the soulless mummies that run one of the world's biggest corporate monsters taking what they perceive as a financial risk just because it's morally right and would make for a good movie. They might have a gay or bi character in a Marvel movie off to the side, not as part of the central cast. But I really don't think they'll make one starring a teenage gay couple and their diverse friends. That's something they'd put in a like, 30 million dollar budget movie under a different label than the main Marvel universe. I mean just look how loving long it took them to make a movie starring a woman.
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Lurdiak posted:For the record I'm not saying that you can't have lgbtqia+ characters in media and make money, but Disney aims for billions of dollars return investment on their tentpole films, and this leads to them being as politically safe as possible because of fear of losing even 1% of return on investment from people put off by even the slightest political stance. Lots of the countries they market to are much more opposed to same sex couples or transgender people than even the US is, and these prejudices become magnified if you involve young people. I would love to be proven wrong but I just can't imagine the soulless mummies that run one of the world's biggest corporate monsters taking what they perceive as a financial risk just because it's morally right and would make for a good movie. They might have a gay or bi character in a Marvel movie off to the side, not as part of the central cast. But I really don't think they'll make one starring a teenage gay couple and their diverse friends. That's something they'd put in a like, 30 million dollar budget movie under a different label than the main Marvel universe. I thought it was more to do with they can’t show that stuff in China. China is a huge movie market now. So they don’t want to make a movie who’s major characters have to be altered or cut for a Chinese showing.
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badjohny posted:I thought it was more to do with they can’t show that stuff in China. China is a huge movie market now. So they don’t want to make a movie who’s major characters have to be altered or cut for a Chinese showing. That's certainly part of what I was talking about, yes, and maybe even the biggest part.
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Feb 6, 2019 13:00
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They put a gay dude in beauty and the beast when they didn't have to, so we'll see.
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David D. Davidson posted:Honestly I'm hoping they let him produce all their X-men movies, it's clear he loves the material and wants to see them done right. I hope they let him do an X-Force movie.
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Sgt. Politeness posted:They put a gay dude in beauty and the beast when they didn't have to, so we'll see.
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FlamingLiberal posted:It was a minor role though And the evidence of him being gay is holding hands with a dude in a crowded scene for half a second.
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Sgt. Politeness posted:They put a gay dude in beauty and the beast when they didn't have to, so we'll see. Did they though? I mean he's in the movie for like 20 minutes at most, and the only "gay" thing that he does is dance with a dude in the background for like 2 seconds.
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Well drat I didn't see the movie, I just saw everybody freaking out about it online. I guess I made an rear end out of you and me when I assumed there was a good reason for all of the press around it. Like seriously I don't know if the movie was a musical or even had talking dishware but I know there was supposedly a gay dude in it. Sgt. Politeness fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Feb 6, 2019 |
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