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You had that experience on the Valor? drat. It's not even *that* old (03-04?). Makes me wonder how much worse off the Conquest is from the last time I was on that class of Carnival ship in 2008. Back in the 90s my aunt and uncle went on cruises constantly. They would never sail a ship more than 8 years old because they swore they went to poo poo suddenly at about that point. But they also only sailed Carnival and RCL. Maybe they had the right idea? Vista is only 5 years old. So better get on it soon by their rationale.
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Zero One posted:https://twitter.com/TravelGov/status/1236739608794275846?s=20 Canada has a comparable alert. Regent is offering 100% future cruise credit up to 48 hours before sailing, so I'm not making any decisions yet as we don't leave until April 2. I also bought 3rd party travel cancellation insurance for the first time ever shortly after I booked in January (might have been very wise). I now actually find myself hoping they cancel the cruise so I get a 100% FCC and an insurance payout. The FCC would potentially be of limited value because my wife is starting a new job and may not get the holidays to do a 2 week cruise anytime soon. I am genuinely starting to have fears for the financial health of the industry though. Many of these cruise lines (maybe all?) are so financially leveraged that I can see real financial problems if the crisis last another month. e: Spain had a massive jump in cases overnight. If Spain takes measures like Italy, it's going to be darn rough for the cruise industry. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-09/spain-says-coronavirus-cases-almost-doubled-overnight-to-999 slidebite fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Mar 9, 2020 |
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Doronin posted:...I'm late to Carnival chat, but if you're going to sail Carnival it's all about managing your expectations. If you take one their 3 or 4-night cruises at a bargain price from one of the smaller ports like NOLA, Galveston, Tampa or Mobile, you're going to have a lot of folks who wear college sports fan gear as their "fancy clothes" everywhere you go. It's definitely a lower common denominator. Everyone I know who's traveled a bunch out of the Gulf on one of these itinerary types refers to these as "Bubba cruises."
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Just throwing this here.... It was $54 less than 1 month ago.
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Which one is that? I don't see the ticker.
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skipdogg posted:Which one is that? I don't see the ticker. NCLH
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I would be a bit worried about the carnival brand recovering after this with their premium line really having their name dragged in the mud. Royal Caribbean I expect to bounce back strong in a few years. Non-stock chat, if you ever planned on going on that dream Alaska cruise, book now for late 2021. The prices are about 60% of what they normally are because all the cruise lines want to get as many future cruises and deposits on their books as possible for now. Just make sure you book with credit card and get the insurance.
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skipdogg posted:Which one is that? I don't see the ticker. Sorry about that, yes nclh. I agree, some good buys for sure! Just make sure you have legit cancellation insurance in case they go belly up in the time being, probably best to not buy through the cruise company..
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We are planning a family cruise to Alaska next year and made a deposit on DCL because we thought our daughter would like that experience best. But I'm relooking at the itinerary, and I am seeing that DCL only visits Dawe's Glacier. Our by far #1 reason we want to visit is to see glaciers while we still have them. I've read elsewhere that everyone says that Glacier Bay is the way to go if that is the case. Would mean having to book with NCL probably. Anyone with experience of both have strong opinions here?
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Zero One posted:Carnival is having a bad time. News is that two employees working at the Port Everglades terminal have tested positive. We haven't heard anything from the ship we're on (Holland America), so we're all just trying to continue on as normal. The ship crew have been working really drat hard to make sure there's enough hand sanitizer to go around, too. I've seen staff carting racks of dispensers past, so they can be replaced on the fly rather than having to delay people from using them.
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Whoops. You on the Nieuw Amsterdam?
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WhiteHowler posted:Whoops. You on the Nieuw Amsterdam? Yup! We missed Half Moon Cay because the weather wasn't good for the island staff getting there and the captain decided it wasn't good for tendering people across to where the staff could work, so we've spent three (really awesome) days at sea now. It helps, I think, that we have shipboard social media, so there's been a "yes, the news has said this; it wasn't at our terminal, and we haven't heard from the ship or head office yet, and we would not have been allowed to dock if there were concerns" post, and most people are trying to be nice to the staff.
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I'm staying on Deck 5, fellow Sea Monkey. 
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poolside toaster posted:Everyone I know who's traveled a bunch out of the Gulf on one of these itinerary types refers to these as "Bubba cruises." Haha, I'll have to remember that. Perfect descriptor.
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tinytort posted:News is that two employees working at the Port Everglades terminal have tested positive. We haven't heard anything from the ship we're on (Holland America), so we're all just trying to continue on as normal. Oofta. The bad news never stops. I think it's just a matter of time that cruise companies start pulling the pin on some cruises, especially to Europe/Med (news is getting dark) but confirmed cases in a Florida port is not a good sign. I was 50/50 yesterday that our April 3 Trans Atlantic cruise will be going, at this rate I'll be more surprised if it's not outright cancelled within 2 weeks. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I don't see the news improving anytime soon. I still think this whole thing is largely a ton of hysteria, but it is what it is.
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The Public Health Agency of Canada has recommended that Canadians not go on cruises because the risk is too high. 
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Well, I think tomorrow is going to be full of outright cancellations based on tonight's news. Viking (Euro river cruises) just cancelled everything until the end of April. My TA cruises departs April 3, arrives in Barcelona April 17th, technically after 30 days, but I can't imagine they'll keep that scheduled considering it'll be leaving before anyone knows if they can get home.
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I really doubt any cruise lines will cancel cruises but who knows at this point. They're all bleeding money and if they cancel, they have to refund. They'll not cancel, hope people will cancel their reservations and accept future cruise credit. Chances are good I'm wrong but that's what I see happening. I'm booked on the Disney Dream for March 27 on a killer TA rate and yeah, it's looking like I won't be going. I'm bummed.
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I'm talking cruises with Euro itineraries, sorry. That is already happening.
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Princess stopping all cruises for two months: https://twitter.com/cnbcnow/status/1238083067648114688?s=21
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Viking cancelling all cruises until May 1st.
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Viking will be fine. Its a very particular brand with a strong niche with a lot of retirees that will still want those small scale european cruises. I'm more curious what this will mean for Carnival. Will the Princess brand survive?
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Hopefully our NCL cruise in July won't be affected... hopefully.
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Nobody knows for sure, but I think there is a good chance summer trips will go ahead. I think spring is pretty much a write-off at this point. Even if they weren't outright cancelled, so many people are spooked I can only think the ships would be running at an unacceptably low capacity. The big 3 (Carnival family, NCL family, Royal family) will be interesting. They are all heavily leveraged (some owe more than the company is worth... especially now) and their assets are lumbering beasts which only cost them money when sitting empty so the only thing they can do is reduce costs as much as possible because they aren't making anything right now and negotiate with creditors. Future cruise credits are the only thing going for them that it's not refunds, BUT, at the same time that's taking a huge bite of future revenue away. Between that and people getting skittish of ships they have challenges for the next year or two. I hope the can survive. If it goes much longer than a month, who knows.
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We cancelled our RCL trip for end of April and rescheduled for December on our 5-year wedding anniversary. No charges or anything, and the new trip has a better itinerary. Pretty happy, honestly.
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slidebite posted:Nobody knows for sure, but I think there is a good chance summer trips will go ahead. I think spring is pretty much a write-off at this point. Even if they weren't outright cancelled, so many people are spooked I can only think the ships would be running at an unacceptably low capacity. Even if the big 3 somehow all go bankrupt (I bet only 1 or 2 if not none actually do) then some other financial group will make a new company overnight to buy all those ships in great condition and they will be cruising just a month or two after the bankruptcy.
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Disney Cruise line is halting operations til the end of the month.
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Cockashocka posted:Hopefully our NCL cruise in July won't be affected... hopefully. I am also booked for an NCL cruise in June/July to the Caribbean. Fingers crossed.
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coronavirus posted:Even if the big 3 somehow all go bankrupt (I bet only 1 or 2 if not none actually do) then some other financial group will make a new company overnight to buy all those ships in great condition and they will be cruising just a month or two after the bankruptcy.
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If any go bankrupt it is likely to be a negotiated bankruptcy like with GM or airlines where the lenders agree to restructure debt and get equity so the company can keep running. Only current shareholders would lose out.
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Regent finally pulled the pinquote:Dear Valued Guest and Travel Advisor*, The funny part is I literally received a final confirmation email from them at 9AM this morning for the departure on the 3rd. e: Looks like all NCL family divisions have the same offer. slidebite fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Mar 13, 2020 |
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Add Royal Caribbean to the list. https://twitter.com/verge/status/1238563968744140800
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I'm doing a crazy Transpacific Cruise from Sydney to Hawaii on Ovation of the Seas that leaves Sydney April 20th. This 30 day thing still puts us in limbo -- technically US cruise since it ends in Hawaii. At this point, I'm not expecting to actually go but awaiting RC to cancel on us. If we somehow do, I'll be amazed.
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Watching for my parents transatlantic HAL on April 3 FLL/BCN is fun - not sure which end is going to fail first right now.
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NCL, RCCL, Azamara, Celebrity all announced halted operations. No word from Carnival yet.
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Carnival suspended operations yesterday. https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-bz-carnival-bars-travelers-over-70-20200313-qataayau7fbcblh7mc3wfardg4-story.html
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HAL has also suspended operations (we got the news Friday, I think?) and the Niuw Amsterdam got turned away from Grand Turk. (So we hit Half Moon Cay on the way back.) As far as anyone can tell right now, none of us are sick. (I did hear reports that one guy died at Half Moon Cay, but it sounded like that was a heart attack? I do not have any details, sorry.) We did all get told to watch our health for the next two weeks and self-quarantine during that time.
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BlackIronHeart posted:Carnival suspended operations yesterday. Just got off the Magic and I’m sitting at Chili’s in FLL. Loved the ship and the trip, might be my favorite cruise thus far. Word started spreading around the ship last night about Carnival suspending future trips. Saw a few bartenders and other staff crying. Was a sort of somber night.
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