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People we have to check our politics at the door when we watch movies, which as you know, have never been political.
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I mean yea his politics are repugnant but I don't think that has much to do with the mistakes he's made in taking roles that don't fit his talents.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:06
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Basebf555 posted:I don't think politics have anything to do with it, I think it's just what happens to anyone who rises to the level where they're an A-list leading man actor, if they're not talented enough. Most of those roles are actually pretty bland, and they depend on having someone in the role that naturally oozes charisma without having to constantly wink at the camera. But yeah, I think this is it. Pratt doesn't bother me as a leading man but he doesn't do a lot for me either. But I think Starlord works because he's still part of an ensemble who gets to clown on him and roll their eyes and then you get Thor or Iron Man showing up and he just falls back into goofy sidekick territory. But I don't really wanna see him spend two hours romancing a leading lady and being the action star.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:07
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Basebf555 posted:I don't think politics have anything to do with it, I think it's just what happens to anyone who rises to the level where they're an A-list leading man actor, if they're not talented enough. Most of those roles are actually pretty bland, and they depend on having someone in the role that naturally oozes charisma without having to constantly wink at the camera. Yeah, I think this describes the issue pretty well. A similar thing happened to people like Alden Ehrenreich or Donnie Yen. They lost a lot of their comedic qualities in the transition to straight leading man because those roles don't allow for it. Samuel Clemens fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Jun 14, 2021 |
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Jun 14, 2021 20:07
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that post was worse than my shitposts itt in 2012 when i was 14 years old (the guy going off against Chris Pratt, not the post above me)
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Jun 14, 2021 20:08
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Basebf555 posted:I mean yea his politics are repugnant but I don't think that has much to do with the mistakes he's made in taking roles that don't fit his talents. I think it might. He went from playing likable goof balls to being badass buff action heroes who protect the family and women from danger. It was probably an accident but I look at that new movie he’s doing where people get drafted to fight aliens and he’s gotta protect his family and idk. He probably won’t ever be an Andy Dwyer again.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:10
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CelticPredator posted:I think it might. He went from playing likable goof balls to being badass buff action heroes who protect the family and women from danger. It was probably an accident but I look at that new movie he’s doing where people get drafted to fight aliens and he’s gotta protect his family and idk. That has more to do with the fact that he became a bankable star from a Marvel franchise and most blockbuster movies that those type of actors are cast in are generally lovely and jingoistic
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Jun 14, 2021 20:13
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trust me the world is not missing the next great actor i mean being better than chris pratt is a wicked low bar to clear
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Jun 14, 2021 20:14
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CelticPredator posted:I think it might. He went from playing likable goof balls to being badass buff action heroes who protect the family and women from danger. It was probably an accident but I look at that new movie he’s doing where people get drafted to fight aliens and he’s gotta protect his family and idk. I just think that's where the money is. Being the lead in a big blockbuster type action movie is always going to pay more than whatever else he may be offered, and not every role is going to be as perfectly suited for him as Starlord. Regardless of politics I have a hard time imagining that his agent is telling him to turn down something like Jurassic World or a big budget sci-fi starring Jennifer Lawrence.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:15
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Maybe. Dude just got weird in my eyes post GOTG and I tried to defend him but I just flat out don’t know any more. I don’t hate the guy or wish him harm, I just don’t see the actor that I liked any more. I follow him on Instagram and his posts are all patriotic and not nearly as fun as they were like 8 years ago.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:15
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Yeah, taking the opportunity to be a leading man is probably just about money and ego. Its not like its an opportunity that presents itself to many.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:15
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Social media presence is a totally different thing, I agree he probably tightened that up and became much less funny on there because of his higher profile and also the poo poo he took when it initially came out that he's a chud.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:16
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I only watch movies where the producer is known to be a bad person
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Jun 14, 2021 20:16
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Given the average Hollywood producer's conduct, that probably doesn't limit your options too much.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:17
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Samuel Clemens posted:Given the average Hollywood producer's conduct, that probably doesn't limit your options too much. Only watch Roger Corman movies. There you go, conversation has come full circle.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:18
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Explosivo12 posted:Bwahahah! The amount of butt hurt is strong with this one. You know, it’s possible to be funny and also be conservative right? Would it shock you that throughout all of those parks and rec years, he was also a republican too? Come on man, check your politics and feelings at the door with entertainment. Do you also not watch Polanski movies? How about the film Jeepers Creepers? Sometimes you’ve just got to separate the art from the artist. Or you can continue on with the cancellation of all things contrary to your narrow view of the world. Your choice. lol imagine going this hard on behalf of Chris Pratt
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Jun 14, 2021 20:20
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:lol imagine going this hard on behalf of Chris Pratt I'm more offended by someone apparently lurking the thread that hard but never posting. We always need more posts!
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Jun 14, 2021 20:22
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My mind must have just glossed over "how about the film Jeepers Creepers" haha
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Jun 14, 2021 20:24
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if we cant post bad opinions itt none of us would be allowed to post at all
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Jun 14, 2021 20:25
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Wasn't that the old thread motto? Everyone's allowed to have one bad opinion. Mine is that 28 Days Later isn't all that good.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:28
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flashy_mcflash posted:My mind must have just glossed over "how about the film Jeepers Creepers" haha Ah yes, a film that as we all know is celebrated and vigorously defended in this thread, Jeepers Creepers. Samuel Clemens posted:Wasn't that the old thread motto? Everyone's allowed to have one bad opinion. Bad opinions are allowed but I don't really know what that's like, all of my opinions are good.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:28
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Samuel Clemens posted:Wasn't that the old thread motto? Everyone's allowed to have one bad opinion. yeah its not good bc its filmed on digital and you can barely watch the thing without getting a headache
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Jun 14, 2021 20:31
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Kvlt! posted:yeah its not good bc its filmed on digital and you can barely watch the thing without getting a headache I’m usually not too picky about that sort of thing but I rewatched it a few years ago and definitely noticed how dated it looked because of that early oughts digital.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:44
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Kvlt! posted:yeah its not good bc its filmed on digital and you can barely watch the thing without getting a headache That's probably my main issue. I do think the early digital style can work if you consciously employ it though. Part of what makes Inland Empire so disquieting is how "off" everything looks.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:46
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It's a shame though because there's a lot of shots in the first act of 28 Days Later that would be absolutely beautiful to see in 1080p or 4k if it wasn't held back by the early digital photography.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:49
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You guys are nuts, 28 days later absolutely employs that aesthetic for particular purpose. take for example the shots of fields of flowers and windmills as they drive through the countryside that blur out to impressionist swathes of color, or the way the exploding gas station is shot to resemble security/cell phone footage of terror bombings. You're basically complaining about film grain
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Jun 14, 2021 20:54
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You're not wrong it's just not an aesthetic that I personally like. Never did, even when the movie came out.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:56
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do ppl really throw on 28 days later and go "wow the grain is reminiscent of impressionist colors" and im just a dummy or is this some intellectual online posturing poo poo i genuinely can never figure this out
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Jun 14, 2021 20:57
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Yes people look deep into art. It’s why it’s art
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Jun 14, 2021 20:58
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so a Serbian Film IS a metaphor for social and economic woes in Serbia? 
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Jun 14, 2021 21:00
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Kvlt! posted:do ppl really throw on 28 days later and go "wow the grain is reminiscent of impressionist colors" and im just a dummy or is this some intellectual online posturing poo poo i genuinely can never figure this out Do u know what subforum this is?!?!
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Jun 14, 2021 21:00
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There was a practical purpose for using those cameras of course, they only had very limited windows of time when the streets were going to be closed down for shooting, and full camera rigs weren't practical for that. That doesn't mean Boyle wasn't thinking about the format he was shooting in and using it to it's upmost creativity though.
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Jun 14, 2021 21:01
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Kvlt! posted:so a Serbian Film IS a metaphor for social and economic woes in Serbia? I mean, yeah. Whether it's a good or well-executed metaphor is up for debate of course.
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Jun 14, 2021 21:03
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Kvlt! posted:do ppl really throw on 28 days later and go "wow the grain is reminiscent of impressionist colors" and im just a dummy or is this some intellectual online posturing poo poo i genuinely can never figure this out Yes. That's why I bought a digital recorder way back when after seeing 28 Days Later in a theater. Always wanted to recreate a shot like that. poo poo was cool as hell and seeing that movie at 13 years old I was quite impressionable.
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Jun 14, 2021 21:08
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Kvlt! posted:do ppl really throw on 28 days later and go "wow the grain is reminiscent of impressionist colors" and im just a dummy or is this some intellectual online posturing poo poo i genuinely can never figure this out if the bar for intellectual online posturing is “cinematography is worth discussion” then that’s a really low bar to set. I’m all for judging movies based on amount of head explosions but I’m ok discussing other stuff too
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Jun 14, 2021 21:10
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drat youre old
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Jun 14, 2021 21:10
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no i wasnt complaining about the observation i just genuinely dont think of stuff like that i gotta study some art
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Jun 14, 2021 21:11
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Kvlt! posted:no i wasnt complaining about the observation i just genuinely dont think of stuff like that i gotta study some art in the end, there is no wrong way to watch a movie
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Jun 14, 2021 21:13
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Unless it's on an iPhone.
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hes not wrong. i watch tv on my phone but save movies for my tv no pun intended
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