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Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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MacheteZombie posted:

Demons 2 > Demons > Demons 3 >>>>> Demons 3 >>> Demons 3 >>>>> Demons 3

:yeah:

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Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Lurdiak posted:

You guys are not doing a good job on this first page.

Turn your monitor off.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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So I'm not like a big action figure/collectible statue of a nerd thing kind of person, neither is my wife. Like we each respectively have a few action figures or cheapo things laying around from years ago but we never got into getting a lot of them and displaying them on a shelf or whatever. If people want to do that it's cool, just not really for me.


And yet..........


Bloodbuster.com - Italian Actors








Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Coffee And Pie posted:

I get that but like I canít think of any movies where people take a ďkill em allĒ kinda glee in killing zombies, itís usually more offense and being sad for them. But then, I donít really watch Walking Dead.

I feel like itís less Bone Tomahawk and more Fight Club

Did you never see Dawn of the Dead?

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:

Book-wise, The Girl With all the Gifts was good and a novel take on zombies but I haven't seen the movie adaptation.

The movie is really cool but I never read the book.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Untrustable posted:

Found footage killer scarecrows. I want a build up though. Maybe the first third of the movie is a farmer documenting damage to his crops and livestock deaths. Then he sets up some security cams around the farm and you get like 10 minutes of Paranormal activity style "Did I see something move"? and then Bam! A fuckin scarecrow saunters into full view. The climax of the film is the small town population taking up arms against the scarecrows escalating into a small town war. The scarecrows are possessed by evil spirits or some poo poo caused by a local Amish outcast, and the good Amish show up at the end and fight some scarecrows with the townspeople. The Scarecrows have farm tools as weapons of loving course.

Think paranormal activity/Night of The Scarecrows/Army of Darkness.

The last shot can be a POV scene of someone walking back home from the massive celebration everyone's having for having beaten the scarecrows and then once he's further away from the town center or whatever we hear a buzzing sound and then the person turns around and OH poo poo it's a scarecrow on a riding mower and it ends on a first person view of getting very slowly run over and ground apart from the feet up and and he looks up to a blood moon just before the screen fades to red followed by a bloody TO BE CONTINUED... end title card.

Movie should be titled The Last Straw.

Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Dec 15, 2018

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Alhazred posted:

The movie is so bad that even Tim Curry looks miserable being in it:


Stop eating my sesame cake.

...

STOP EATING MY SESAME CAKE!

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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So with a new horror thread comes a new post from me about The Butterfly Murders. A 1979 martial arts flick that is also Tsui Hark's first movie. I fuckin' love this movie.

But wait! It's not just a martial arts flick. I mean it starts out that way, and seems pretty by the numbers, extensive voice overs about how the Martial World is in turmoil, we learn that the story's being told from the POV of a reporter of the time. And we see inklings of what it becomes, but the scope of the story becomes more personal, down to a handful of characters they all converge on the same location in which the entire rest of the movie takes place, where it becomes clear that you're watching a stylishly shot mystery/slasher movie. You can see inklings of it even from the beginning but this movie owns for going in such a different direction than expected.

Tragically, I've only ever seen extremely bad prints of it (you can see a bad one on Amazon Prime right now which I strongly recommend!) because you can 100% tell this movie is gorgeous. It's genuinely impressive how claustrophobic and dangerous it feels (especially after the killer shows up in person). Like they could have just called it a day by setting it in a claustrophobic place, but they went all out with lots of sudden awkward overhead and close up shots that are perfectly inserted into points of panic among the cast.

Most of the movie takes place over just a few hours over one night too which is really awesome and, like a giallo, even has a scene towards the end where a character breaks it down with some brief flashbacks to previous footage to explain exactly what the killer was up to and why. Also the design and physical acting of the killer at their peak absolutely owns and is basically a wuxia version of like a Jason or similar high powered slasher killer.



Anyway this movie is cool as hell for what it pulls off in its time and place, so have some imagery.














Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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In 1979 Sergio Martino directed a movie called Island of the Fishmen. Despite the somewhat lurid advertising it...actually earnestly attempts to be interesting, like a mix of a Creature from the Black Lagoon and an Island of Dr. Moreau kind of story. It's not totally successful and pretty slow but I appreciate the effort. And it's relatively tame so a kid could watch it. But it's also a bit dated, compared to something like The Shape of Water this one's a bit too much of a straight-faced throwback to 50s movies.

A couple of years later, like in the case of Lisa and the Devil being released in a drastically different form in the US as The House of Exorcism, it had some new footage shot for its release in the US. However unlike Lisa and the Devil which got turned into a very different movie, the new footage here is just a new introductory scene.......that fuckin' rules. It's well shot, nicely paced, and quite gory compared to the rest of the movie, and is moody enough that they should have just taken the cast and outfits and stuff from it and just made a completely original movie with that. So if you have Prime check out the flick Screamers (1981, Island of the Fishmen's US title) and definitely at least watch the first ten minutes or so.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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lol at posers itt poo poo talking Congo

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Tolkien minority posted:

I mean, when I say horror industry I mean like the current big name horror directors/producers working ala James wan and mike Flanagan and Netflix originals that make serviceable derivative dreck with mass appeal and lots of blue filters. Those dudes suck.

Perhaps the same could be said of all current big name horror directors/producers. I mean I wouldn't say Sam Raimi or Argento or Fulci were exactly "big names" in the 80s at an equivalent level to Wan or Flanagan today.


Man, Netflix. Apostle was so good but people were underwhelmed by it it seemed. It was honestly refreshing to have something with that premise be so fast paced.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Hollismason posted:

That's all Roger Corman's doing I am pretty sure. Something about a skinless man or something or another.

Oh yeah I figured it was a zombie movie from the Screamers cover so it being what it is was a pleasant surprise! I can imagine it must have flopped horribly though from that switch though. Reading about it now, it seems Corman first had the intro filmed and released the flick in the US as "Something Waits in the Dark," it flopped, then they added the inside out/skinless dude part just for the trailers and gave it the name Screamers and that new cover to try a second time. :lol:

Speaking of Screamers I had no idea there was a 2009 direct to video squel to the Peter Weller movie. It's concensus on it looks like it has great practical gore but bad everything else so I'll have to check it out.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Franchescanado posted:

25 Christmas Horror Movies Ranked - it's a BuzzFeed "article" but it's a pretty solid list with a nice variety and even some things I hadn't heard of.

I'm going to check out the ones on here that are new to me, but I have to question Wind Chill being on the list since that's one of the lamest movies I've ever seen.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvkZMYMWM44

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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s.i.r.e. posted:

Checking out Screamers since it was added to Shudder and so far someone's had his head ripped off in gory detail, another had their throat slapped away, and another disemboweled. All by fish men! Loving the gently caress out of this one.

Ha I just made a post about this, it seems that that entire opening sequence was made for when it was released in the US.

But it's so freaking good I wish they just made an original movie of fishmen owning people.

It was originally "Island of the Fishmen" in Italy, then it had the the opening scene shot for it for the US and was released similarly flowery title like "Something Is In the Dark" or something" but it flopped. So they then made footage of an inside out person and tried again a year later with the Screamers title. :laffo: Corman was notoriously good at budgeting stuff but they must have lost a lot of money acquiring the film or something because they sure put a ton of work into that opening.

Anyway I still like the movie itself but drat that opening scene owns.

Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Dec 18, 2018

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:

War is horror, right? I saw They Shall Not Grow Old (Peter Jackson's World War 1 documentary featuring restored 100-year-old archive footage from the actual war) tonight and it was heartbreaking but really well done. Lots of gnarly shots of hosed up corpses, people that had trenchfoot, etc. The footage looked way better than something from that era, too. It didn't look like a movie made in 2018 obviously, but the footage looked several decades newer than it actually is.

Basically, if Peter Jackson is putting anywhere near the level of care into the restoration of Dead Alive as he did this one, it's really going to be something special.

Much as I mock Peter Jackson now I would mark out for Peter Jackson forever if his Dead Alive restoration has the full basement scene and other stuff. There's fan edits of it but for obvious reasons the quality ain't great and so even the unrated version from a while ago that's technically his director's cut is still missing like almost ten minutes of good stuff.

Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Dec 18, 2018

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Hollismason posted:

Everyone kept talking about Screamers 1981 so I watched it last night and really enjoyed the he'll out of it. It's a excellent B movie fare with a mad scientist , lost world's , cool monsters and my personally favorite is straight up Gill Man makes a appearance.

Like it's legit great lost world monster B movie fare. It feels like something from the 50s.

Loved it.

It really is super rad overall, I'm glad folks in the thread are checking it out now. :D

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Tolkien minority posted:

The Day Time Ended is a favorite of mine just for how hilariously dumb it is. They really pull out all the stops.

This movie is amazingly dumb and hilarious and I love it, but it's also a real deal must watch for the aliens' technology. Not that anything about them is good, but in a pre-internet world it's actually a very very accurate depiction of how people would describe UFO sightings from the 60s through the early 90s. The lost time, stuff like the small probe thing floating around, or seeing three lights in the sky that would unite into one large ball of light and then fly off, the little triangular objects they leave behind, etc. Also for how it's obliquely and ancient aliens movie, with the way time ending and the alien city is paralleled to the biblical end times happening with massive (clumsy, stop motion) battling beasts showing up and the family being whisked to a paradise-esque futuristic city at the end. Like, it's a movie with so little, and yet, so much, and it's so bad and stupid at the same time. I love it. :3:

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Origami Dali posted:

A lot of the time, Italian et al. movies were shot for English because they were easier to sell, so actors who didn't understand English were instructed to phonetically mouthe the English dialogue so the lips would match when they dubbed in the lines later. Many actors had no idea what they were saying, and if you were to hear the on-set sound of their performances, it would sound like incoherent mumbling.

Yeah like if you watch a lot of these flicks, you'll see have German, Italian, and English actors who don't actually speak each other's languages just speaking their own language on set but trying to speak it more slower, faster, or/and in English phonetically as needed. When you watch like Zombie and some of those flicks it's honestly kind of amazing that good performances can still come through. So for many of these flicks (sorry I didn't realize til typing this that someone else responded with this info already) English is the original language of the movie.

Besides it being easier to sell in English, it also fixed the casting logistics issue where like, even just in Italy itself there's enough dialects that no way in hell you would buy that any two actors they got were from the same neighborhood or relatives or whatever. Geretta Geretta (Demons, Shocking Dark, etc.) talks a bit about this here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNO8cFI1pls


It's funny though, obviously there's crap like the infinite bad Sartana and Django knockoff flicks but in general I always found the dubbing in many of the late 70s through the 80s Italian horror flicks to be to be just fine technically compared to what usually comes to mind with that stuff.

Obviously there's the visibly awful dubbing in the many crappy Sartana and Django knockoff flicks (and all those mega-awful barbarian flicks, forget Ator I mean like Gunan and stuff like that), but in the big ones it's never as noticeable to me as in those way crappier movies or when Shaw Bros. stuff gets dubbed into English or whatever.



Now if you want a really interesting language issue, there's Italian horror movies, that were dubbed into English, but not officially released on DVD in English (or in English at all in some cases), but that DO get released on DVD in Germany, often have English subtitles, which in very very rare occasion are accessible in the US. This is a very very small niche of subtitling hilarity, Raiders of Atlantis and The Paganini Horror come to mind. Check out Raiders of Atlantis on Prime and watch it with the subtitles on. When they find that guy that was hanged and one them's arguing about how they can't just leave him like that and they have to take him down/bury him the subtitle is "WE HAVE TO MASTURBATE HIM ONCE!" even though the movie is already dubbed in English.

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Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Basebf555 posted:

Complain about ADR all you want but if they didn't use it we probably wouldn't have John Saxon in so many Italian films.

Plus like, I don't know, I never found the ADR to be particularly bad in the Italian horror movies we tend to talk about in this thread, and it's sometimes quite good. Keep in mind this was the same era giving us Shaw Bros. dubs, Godfrey Ho stuff, lots of super low budget European barbarian flicks, relatively speaking a lot the movies being brought up here are fine.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Fart City posted:

Hey Iím Jan Saxan and apparently Iím from Iddly in this picture

My favorite Italian movie with John Saxon in it will always be Hands of Steel which is an absolute must-watch. He's not in it much and it's also the film that killed Claudio Cassinelli (he died while filming the helicopter scene :( ) but I love that Saxon is billed in it like he's the special guest star on a TV show or something.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Steve Dash has passed away. :(

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Samuel Clemens posted:

Aside from Angel Heart, are there any great horror films about a detective/police officer who goes to investigate a mystery and finds something supernatural? I guess In the Mouth of Madness sort of works in the same vein.

While they're not all noir films and some have more/less pervasive supernatural stuff than others we kinda sorta dubbed this type of flick "noir horror" in the last thread and I made a list based on what folks suggested that I fortunately saved. Note that not all of these are necessarily great (and some like Cataclysm are brainmeltingly bad). For this list we did include things where magic and supernatural stuff are already a known thing, but not movies where NOTHING supernatural happens so that does leave out some movies like Seven that are certainly horror films that involve an investigation.

Maybe "occult noir" is better?

9th Gate
1,000 Eyes of Dr. Mabuse
Angel Heart
Apostle
Blood Cult
Cast a Deadly Spell
Cataclysm
Constantine
Dark (1979)
Dead and Buried
Dr. Mabuse: The Gambler
Dylan Dog: Dead of Night
Fallen
Jacob's Ladder
Lord of Illusions
Lost Highway
Nick Knight
Night Flier
Night Stalker
Night Strangler
Resurrected
Return of Dr. Mabuse
Split Second
Testament of Dr. Mabuse
Wicked City (live action, stay far away from the anime)


Note that "Night Stalker" and "Night Strangler" are the two Kolchak movies from before the TV series, they're both cool IMO. IIRC they're generally not listed with Kolchak in the title if you're looking.

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Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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AnonSpore posted:

Does The Wicker Man count

Personally it doesn't count to me just because nothing actually supernatural happens. And Christopher Lee even says straight up that the entire religion was only re-asserted as a way for his grandfather to get folks to the island in the first place so he could prove he was right about his cultivating prowess - the crops themselves were good because he developed crops hardy enough to grow well on that particular island at the time. He considers himself enlightened in knowing that and the science behind it but he and his father kept up the tradition out of actual love for it.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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DeimosRising posted:

But consider this: what if it does

They should do a sequel to the Nicholas Cage movie where it's just like two hours of the people on the island memorializing Nicholas Cage because they've had a solid decade of incredible bee growth since sacrificing him and then like halfway through the cinematography gets extremely bold and it's somehow a Mandy crossover.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Horror: There's a lot of it.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Kvlt! posted:

i dont know what that symbol means

The "ironicat," in this case due to how in the Suspiria remake Tilda Swinton plays multiple characters.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Hollismason posted:

Why would you sit on a yule log its on fire.

Let's get a list going of movies that involve someone dying by fire...

...not just by flames but by being stuck in an actual furnace/oven/fireplace etc. mechanism meant to heat things:


Absurd (the second babysitter, she escapes and survives a little longer but doesn't last long)

Kingdom of Heaven (Not a horror movie but Orlando Bloom loses it and murders his hypocrite priest brother in an ultra metal/horror-esque way by grabbing a still molten sword he was just forging with his bare hand and stabbing him with it, pinning him to the coals of a forge and setting him alight, then pulling his about to die body back out as he reaches into the flames and rips the guy's stolen-from-his-just-committed-suicide-wife's gold cross off his neck, pulling the guy's entire body out to flail around for a few seconds before keeling over :black101: )

Nightmare on Elm Street series

Saw II

Sweeney Todd



Hilariously, the film Stuff Stephanie in the Incinerator specifically does not feature someone being stuffed into an incinerator and, IIRC, doesn't even have an incinerator anywhere in it despite the name. :3:

Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Dec 23, 2018

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Tolkien minority posted:

I feel like Iíve seen at least a handful of slashers in which the villain is defeated by being set on fire (then usually running out of a window)

One of my favorite of these is Maniac Cop 2 because there's a brief on fire rampage leading up to it and it all rests on a burnt out drunk hobo learning the meaning of friendship.

But what about ones where the cause isn't just that the person is lit up but that it's from being in an actual oven/furnace/etc.?

Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Dec 23, 2018

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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Hollismason posted:

It drives me loving crazy that Amazon Prime has all these lovely movies that I wanna watch but they're in 4:3. Like Maniac Cop 2. WHyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Maniac Cop series had a weird release history, 2 got an infamously great laser-disc release and but only officially existed on DVD in 4:3 until relatively recently (like 3/4 years ago?). So eventually that one will be on streaming stuff somewhere. - William Lustig himself did a straight up 4K restoration blu-ray of it and it's legit one of the best "THIS IS THE MOST DEFINITIVE RELEASE EVER OF THIS MOVIE"s ever made. It's was better looking than any version I've ever seen and even has 7.1 audio if you have the speakers for it ( I know I never will but that fuckin' owns)!

I was talking about this a bit earlier in the thread but I was noticing some bizarre subtitle/dub discrepincies on some recently added flicks on Prime which makes me think they're using a ton of French and German DVD versions (that included English subtitles at the time) for some of their most recent batches of stuff. In Maniac Cop 2's case a French DVD was the only official way to get it on disk for a long time, so I bet that's what they have.

Maniac Cop 2 absolutely fuckin' rules - and the original is great too! - both are the absolute polar opposite of "lovely movies" (the caliber of the squibs and stunts alone in MC2 make it worth watching let alone the snappy script) so definitely make an effort to see them however you can.

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Neo Rasa
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I see it getting recommended on Shudder often now so this is a good time to let the thread know to check out Death Line if you haven't yet.

An early 70s movie starring Donald Pleasence as a terse force-of-nature-level-rear end in a top hat Scotland Yard inspector trying to figure out what's going on with folks disappearing or/and getting mutilated between train lines. Notable that this is a flick that when released in the US had to have a bit of the shots of corpses and such cut out to not get an X rating!

AIG released this in the US with the title Raw Meat back in the day but Shudder as a definitive streaming version of it as Death Line. It's short enough to not overstay its welcome, and involves subway cannibals and some gnarly makeup/etc. at times. Christopher Lee pops up in it too! :3: The way that spoilered element is introduced is amazing, a straight five minutes of no dialogue, just slow panning through the back end of the subway culminating with at the end with loud screams as the camera pulls up to a pile of refuge that as it gets closer you can see has various human remains in it. I loving love that scene.

Guillermo Del Toro fans would get a kick out of it, he's said this is among his favorite films ever and it's easy to see how it's influenced him.

Anyway it's a great movie so check it out if you have access to Shudder.


Per recent concerns in the thread - the transfer on Shudder looks and sounds great so no issues there.


This is bad quality YouTube clip but the movie has the heaviest opening titles, they own:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNkDrFdFylY

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Hollismason posted:

Yeah I been meaning to watch Raw Meat or Death Line. Disappointing though that Pleasance and Lee are not in the same scene together as apparently I forget which took the role solely because the other was in it.

Incredibly they share a scene despite this and, while it's obvious as they're never on screen at the same time, they manage to somehow have great chemistry and clearly think very little of each other. But I like how as Lee annoys him more, as it goes back and forth between them each time it's a little more zoomed in on Lee and a little pulled back on Pleasence, they did a good job letting the camera do the lifting when they couldn't be present together. They even use a double briefly towards the end as they walk out. :3:

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Hollismason posted:

How has this thread existed for 10 years and no one has ever mentioned

Be the change you want to see in the thread.


Hollismason posted:

the French film Dial Code Santa Claus because holy poo poo is this amazing.


It is now easily in the top 10 / top 5 Killer Santa Claus movies.

YESSSS :hfive:

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
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I was already hype for this movie but my hype for it is now officially OUT. OF. CONTROL.

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Kind of surprised Prime has like every Italian post-apocalyptic even down to not-even-z-grade crap like Bronx Executioner but somehow is now missing both 2019: After the Fall of New York AND 2020: Texas Gladiators which are two of the raddest ones. :O Why would that happen with just those two flicks in particular when a bunch of others from the same distributors/producers/etc. are still up? I was sure these were both available too.

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Mar 8, 2007
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Imagine watching all those hours of Friday the 13th in reverse expecting an explanation as to why Jason has a weed patch.

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I think my ONLY complaints with Curse of Chucky are it's maybe a few minutes too long and most of the kills were very lame. I liked it a lot overall.

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Henry II would probably have been more liked if it wasn't called Henry II. Not the worst movie ever but it of course doesn't even approach the original. It's not a good movie but not particularly horrendous compared to how bad that kind of movie can get. It was a mainstay in all the video stores around me in my late teens.

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Mar 8, 2007
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It's not a horror movie but if you're not going anything tomorrow it's a perfect time to watch 2019: After the Fall of New York:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pksZ3_RdAEc

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s.i.r.e. posted:

That's really weird, my source of horror hype and news is basically this thread and I don't think I've ever seen him mentioned. If he's really billed that highly then lol because I don't see it.


What about film with quick cuts or just mindless action scenes, like the fight scenes in Batman Begins where you can't understand what the gently caress is going on. Even that is headache inducing for me, I assume the smoothing wouldn't do much for that.

I think they really missed an opportunity in those movies with how Batman fights. Like the first two times in Begins (the scene at the docks and the scene where he first takes out some of Scarecrow's guys before getting gassed) were good because the cuts were quick but they shot it like Batman was a xenomorph or a horror movie slasher. With lots of guy is moving around/distracted, gets a glimpse of Batman and then gets dropped with one power move with Batman doing stuff like just slamming a guy's head into a mirror/wall full force or hitting a guy's arm so he shoots himself in the foot.

Batman's an agile martial arts master blah blah blah in the comics but it's generally laughable when they try to do that in the movies in the suits/conditions they make. But they actually came up with a style of shooting Batman that worked. Then everything after that we just get the super fast cuts of folks flailing with the :laffo: Keysi Fighting Method.

A huge mistake because of those quick cuts. They continue to shoot everything in that get the drop on someone fast and then drop them fast way but then make him fight in a way that looks like random flailing with the quick cuts.

For all the talk of ~~~THE POWER OF FEEEAR OF WHAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND~~~ that was so emphasized throughout the movie (and so much so that it gets brought up even in Justice League there's a big THAT'S FEEEAAAR moment) and for how his training went in Batman Begins - One of the first thing Bruce learns is "This is not a dance" and to be efficient - they had a really cool way of having Batman fight that fit that and then....had him not fight that way for the rest of the movies.

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