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Easy Diff posted:Blood C is this super-super-super (I mean realllllly super-)slow burn show that starts out as generic "magical girl also fights monsters" and slowly morphs into an absolutely BONKERS mindfuck with some of the most over-the-top visuals I've ever seen in any form. Like, legit made me a little sick, and I've never had a problem with anything in Hostel or Miike's ouvre or the 70s rape-revenge flicks. Blood-C loving sucks, as does the entire Blood series. it's basically the worst, most pointless example of category #2 also reading back through other people's suggestions: Monster is indeed really good Junji Ito is one of the greatest horror mangaka alive, but anime adaptations of his work are almost universally low-budget, low-effort trash. the live-action Uzumaki is about as good as it gets and I'm pretty sure I'm the only person around here who will actually go to bat for that movie; the anime adaptations are downright terrible Hellsing Ultimate is very much aimed at horny teenage boys, but LORD OF BOOTY isn't kidding re: how much it dunks on nazis The Promised Neverland is fantastic but wtf don't spoil the premise in the recommendation Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Mar 9, 2019 |
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mikeycp posted:It's literally in the first episode and I left the big part of it out. I don't know how you would even describe it otherwise. eh, you're probably right, i'm just remembering reading the comic which draws it out a little more and really commits to pulling the rug out from under you
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Kvlt! posted:i dont believe fulci did any anime so i havent seen any Kemonozume is basically A Lizard in a Woman's Skin: Literal Version 
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thotsky posted:I mean, yeah sure, it does that, but it also implies that having a strong ideology, even if it is bonkers and ends up getting you killed, is really cool. The show itself never criticizes the nazis for being monsters, it just shows them monstering it up and enjoying it, until they're killed off by one of the other murderous and fanatical factions who hate them. Make no mistake, the show goes out of its way to make the nazis look cool while they're chomping on babies or whatever; it's not an anti-fascist piece of work. Hellsing's thing is that monsters are cool, but it doesn't equate this with being morally good and in fact is pretty explicit that a) monsters need to be destroyed for the good of society and b) losing your humanity and becoming a monster is tragic. Alucard is deeply disappointed when the fanatical Catholic priest who hates his guts gives up his humanity, because he wanted the man to kill him as a human. (Note that for all that he's this trenchcoated "badass," the entire show is a series of increasingly elaborate suicide attempts on Alucard's part.) Similarly, there's a pretty critical scene in which the Nazi leader boasts about how authentic and superior he is as a human being, and Alucard laughs in his face for suggesting he's human and not a monster. It is an anti-fascist work. Now, I still have thematic misgivings about it -- the obvious one being that, in reality, the nazis really were human, they didn't cross some magical threshold that separates human beings from beasts; they were just really awful human beings. It doesn't do a great job of acknowledging the banality of evil. But that's not quite the same thing. Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Mar 10, 2019 |
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The Thing followed by They Live, so as to suggest that the one is the sequel to the other.
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ReapersTouch posted:Watched Vampires Kiss last night for the first time.Good movie, but Nicholas Cage's crazy eyes makes this movie. I think Vampire's Kiss is almost just a better version of American Psycho. I saw "almost" because they're going for different things -- American Psycho is a little more focused on the sick culture that lets someone as psychotic as Bateman pass as normal, while Vampire's Kiss is strictly about a pathetic, abusive man descending into total lunacy. But I think the commitment to making Loew incredibly lame is the better approach to this kind of character portrait, while American Psycho inhabits Bateman's own POV a little too much. (And don't get me wrong, they're both excellent movies.)
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gey muckle mowser posted:I thought it was you at first so I looked at your posts in the old thread starting in 2012 and they are basically a mix of asking for tortureporn recommendations and then assuring everyone else that you were not a serial killer, lol assuming people on the internet are adults and have themselves completely figured out can trip you up, and honestly that example is probably much less worrying coming from an edgy teenager
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It's kind of like the Fight Club problem, where it's difficult to decide precisely if a love affair between two men who are mirror images of each other is homoerotic, narcissistic, or both, and exactly what that means. It's been a while since I saw Ravenous but I think it's a bit less about the homoeroticism than Fight Club (a low bar, I know. )Think of it this way: all of the characters are men who were completely broken, their masculine self-image damaged or destroyed, and each rebuilt themselves in different ways. Boyd went through horrible trauma and was punished for his cowardice, and he feels genuine remorse, but also self-loathing motivated by his failure; Hart experienced total helplessness and had to be nurtured and cared for by someone else to survive, and responds by temporarily embracing Calquhoun's philosophy of conquest and consumption -- overcompensating, essentially; Calquhoun's body failed him, and he responded by murdering others to (at least in his own mind) save himself. It's basically Wendigo psychosis as a mash-up of toxic masculinity and manifest destiny. The seduction isn't to be gay, it's to be predatory and domineering, which obviously transcends orientation and the only reason it's presented as same-sex is because it's also about what it means to be a man. It would be difficult, at best, for a woman to be a Wendigo as this movie presents them. e: There's also no reason the characters couldn't be gay, mind. Gay men are brought up under patriarchy too. But I just don't see any good argument that the evil presented in the film is necessarily homosexual (and if anything, queerness might be a partial defense against it.) Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Mar 13, 2019 |
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or more succinctly: you can't make a movie about a bunch of men eating each other not come off as sexual, but the point is less "eww that's gay" and more "patriarchy and colonialism gently caress us all, even when we think we're doing the loving"
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Fart City posted:I don’t think that the characters of Ravenous are gay, but I think there’s a queer subtext to the film. The entire film is about seduction and indulgement. The path of the wendigo is a “deviant” one, but gives Pierce power and identity he was lacking in a world of toxic masculinity. yeah see i don't get this reading at all, and while you might be right and i might be forgetting important details that support that reading, that would just mean that it really does say something pretty lovely about queerness
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ruddiger posted:Did you ever watch the tv show Hannibal? That show handled the "cannibalism as stand-in for queerness" pretty well, and it's thematically similar to Ravenous, the two leads in Ravenous feel like prototypes for the Will Graham/Hannibal Lecter dynamic in that show. yeah, I love Hannibal, but I also have a serious problem with how much it romanticizes Hannibal (and ends without ever undercutting the mythology he's built up for himself)
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Drag Me to Hell is a worse, somehow even more misanthropic version of Evil Dead stapled to a worse, less interesting version of Night of the Demon it's the only Raimi movie I outright hate instead of just not really getting the hype
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There are entire generations' worth of historical, horror, or fantasy movies where getting shot or stabbed is portrayed with camera trickery, stylization, or just sticking the sword in the actor's armpit. And a lot of them are genuinely great films. Realism is overrated, and in particular it's no substitute for aesthetics.
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Premise-stealing is great, it just sets a bar you have to have to live up to, and Jacques Tourneur sets the bar pretty fuckin' high.
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The villain in Night of the Demon isn't "ethnic," he's a doctor and a wealthy, white occultist. He lives in a mansion, moves in the same high society circles as his victims, and his magical tradition has vague norse flavorings (given the runes) but it's mostly just a non-specific "satanic."
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Also it's possible, albeit a bit strained, to read Night of the Demon as not actually endorsing the existence of the supernatural at all. The big shift in the protagonist's attitude is that he admits that "maybe it's better not to know." This is of course undercut by the two very dramatic appearances by the actual demon in the movie we got, but IIRC Tourneur fought tooth and nail not to have those in the film, but the studio insisted and in the end they won.
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Also I still adore the demon's design, even if it is obviously a puppet: so it might not be all bad how things shook out Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Mar 13, 2019 |
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I might rewatch it myself. Technically speaking I've only seen the considerably cut-down American version, released as Curse of the Demon for fear of confusion with some movie called Night of the Iguanas.
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Franchescanado posted:My mistake. I remember him wearing a turban or something, and thought that they made him Romany as well. There might have been something about his mother? I'm sorry if I came off harshly there, and doubly so if it turns out I'm remembering wrong.
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Oh, Arivia already covered the naval combat part, which is hilarious. Although I thought wizards were artillery, rather than tanks. Hence their fragility and the huge emphasis on the danger of friendly fire wrt their signature attacks (prior to later editions, anyways.)
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I've said it before but what redeems The Void for me is the very very end. I love films about paradoxical, defiant hope in the face of horror and death.
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Class3KillStorm posted:OK, Horror Thread. I just got back from an advance screening of Jordan Peele’s Us, and I hate to report that it’s pretty weaksauce. It’s never very scary, it undercuts its tensest moments at any given moment with corny dad jokes, and it spends so much time in the last 20 minutes elaborating on its stupid premise and explaining nothing. this post had the exact opposite effect of what i think you intended, i'm more hype to see it now
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Inferno is bad for reasons that are endemic to Italian horror, and it's easy to see how someone immersed in the subgenre could forgive them. Mother of Tears on the other hand is just incredibly dull and I have no idea what anyone sees in it.
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married but discreet posted:Perfect Blue: A final scene so bad it almost ruins the rest of it. Oh boy did I hate that. Absolutely does not gel with the tone of everything before, which I loved. Doesn't count as a good anime cause it was meant to be a real movie apparently. it's anime
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After years and years of pirating poo poo (a long time ago, past the statute of limitations) and never getting so much as a peep, I finally had to deal with that poo poo when my roommate decided to start torrenting Game of Thrones on my wifi the day he moved in. I got a nasty warning email with the filename and everything. So yes, it actually does happen.
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mikeycp posted:have...you not watched Noroi? I don't understand why people go to bat for Noroi so hard (and so exclusively!) when Occult by the same director is right there.
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mikeycp posted:because it's his best film in a body of very good films. it also does the most with the found footage format. like all of his different segments perfectly emulate the kind of show they're trying to be. it's a very believably produced movie. I can see and understand why someone would praise those aspects, and yet I would never describe "successfully emulating reality television" or "striving to be as believable as possible as a found footage artifact" as actually being desirable qualities in a movie. Guess I learned something today. Probably the same reason Twin Peaks is my least favorite Lynch by a huge margin. Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 01:54 on May 2, 2019 |
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mikeycp posted:i mean this one is literally the entire point of the genre, monetary reasons aside I'd much rather have something that acknowledges its own improbability and leans into it (as the ending of Occult very much does) than something that takes a Primer-like attitude towards consistency for its own sake. Like, it's enough to justify being found footage if the point is just to characterize the protagonist as a documentarian, or to create the visual aesthetic of a documentary. I don't really care about the "does it perfectly justify its existence in-narrative" part, and given the overall trend in found footage horror I think I'm actually on the side of the general public for once. (The emulation of different types of television show that you talked about in the first half of your post is a good example of the kind of thing I'm talking about and do value, I just can't stand reality TV, so the success of the emulation doesn't do anything to endear me to the movie.) Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 02:51 on May 2, 2019 |
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I'm going to go with Gallowwalkers. It's a movie that has all the superficial markings of an entertaining B-movie -- the premise, the seriousness with which it takes itself, and so on -- and still manages to be completely dull in spite of itself.
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Game Night is fantastic and borders on horror at a lot of points.Basebf555 posted:Gallowwalkers was made during the tax evasion years for Snipes, so he'd really stopped giving a poo poo at that point, I'm sure it was just an easy paycheck. Exactly. It's just so mediocre and empty, and that's worse than a movie that's outrageously bad, because the latter at least can be interesting.
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he also wrote Dark City, I'll give it a shot it's not exactly like he's dragging a reputable franchise through the mud now if he were directing I'd be worried, but he isn't according to that article
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Horror is fiction where something alien intrudes into everyday life and characters react with disgust and fear. Sometimes it's something like a monster or a ghost or whatever and the intrusion (and the lack of normalcy on the part of the intruder) is really obvious and categorically distinct, which makes for easy identification, and sometimes it's just a person, an animal, a natural or cultural phenomenon, or even an idea, and that makes things much more ambiguous because you have to negotiate the line between what's "normal" and what's alien, which is pretty subjective. You could make an argument for Requiem For a Dream either way, but I would encourage you to consider how familiar and intimate everyone in Requiem For a Dream is with the thing that's destroying their lives, and how they feel about it.
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surely there must be at least one horror movie about Lady Midday
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Someone rec me a dope found footage movie. Skip over your normie tier "have tou seen rec/last horror movie/Poughkeepsie tapes" recs, I've seen most if not all of the stables watch Occult by Koji Shiraishi
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Oh poo poo is this Japanese S&MAN more like a super-low-budget Japanese version of From Beyond
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Burkion posted:Neither of whom could capture the nuances or subtleties of the man. Cushing's Tarkin was an affable, amiable monster who would smile after ordering the deaths of billions and lying to your face. He had a soft, bemused tone, fitting for one of his power and influence. this is definitely the worst example of it but all of the new star wars movies have this problem, with regard to any of the villains. like under the circumstances i kind of get why but they're just absolutely terrified of giving evil even the tiniest hint of glamour or competence, to the point where it undercuts them as a threat.
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Burkion posted:https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1133062310061232136 Good. Prometheus was fantastic and while I wasn't entirely happy with how Covenant treated Shaw, I'm still totally on board with the whole "David as robot Lucifer by way of Dr. Frankenstein" story.
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It's been a while since I paid close attention to new horror releases (I missed Us in theaters, although I'm gonna see it as soon as it comes out on video) but with The Lighthouse and Midsommar coming up it's probably time I fixed that
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Jedit posted:What the actual turbo-Christing gently caress? I accept that some people might rate UTS more highly than I do, but putting it ahead of District 9, Arrival, Gravity, The Girl With All The Gifts, Attack the Block, Moon, Primer, The World's End, Mad Max: Fury Road, 28 Days Later, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Inception and Ex Machina is so far over the hills of Wrong Opinions that God Almighty couldn't find you with a loving telescope. the only movies on this list that are even in the running are Attack the Block and maybe Fury Road
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M_Sinistrari posted:I've been recommended to give Occult a try since I did enjoy Noroi. As the recommender's one who's not had a good track record with recommendations for me, figured I'd ask you guys if it's worth a watch. I mean every time someone mentions Noroi I chime in with how Occult is better. Depends on if you trust my recommendation any more than that other dude, though.
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