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BrainDance posted:If this becomes a thing because people get nostalgic we can start a webring. You might already be aware but in case you're not, you should definitely check out https://neocities.org/ which essentially is a community of people creating small, personal sites in the vein of the old web.
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Part of me wants to try and make a neocities website just for fun but I dunno what I'd put on there. Maybe bps files for my SMW contest entries and (eventually) the finished bps for my Fire Emblem romhack once that gets finished this decade.
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Apr 21, 2023 13:49
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FPzero posted:Part of me wants to try and make a neocities website just for fun but I dunno what I'd put on there. Wow it really does capture the early internet perfectly
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Apr 21, 2023 14:00
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Nemo2342 posted:Please describe to her what the original Diablo 1 online experience was like; I still have a hard time believing that was real and I was playing the game in its heyday. That game was _wild_
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Apr 21, 2023 14:05
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FPzero posted:Part of me wants to try and make a neocities website just for fun but I dunno what I'd put on there. Maybe bps files for my SMW contest entries and (eventually) the finished bps for my Fire Emblem romhack once that gets finished this decade. It's the early internet, so just a stream of consciousness text dump about your favorite videogames with the occasional reference to WWF. If anyone wants to get in the headspace for it, Activeworld's servers are still up (as a part of that "I have to keep this going so I keep my copyright" thing, there's another game that's almost identical the same guys run) and you can jump in the main world, warp to random coordinates, and find "Timmy's WWF/Pokemon/Austin Powers midi city" type stuff. 
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Apr 21, 2023 14:10
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BrainDance posted:It's the early internet, so just a stream of consciousness text dump about your favorite videogames with the occasional reference to WWF. RIP People's Princess
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Apr 21, 2023 14:12
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I streamed myself wandering through AlphaWorld once and had to quit and delete the VOD because somebody's front yard had been vandalized by the N word over and over
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In Training posted:Wow it really does capture the early internet perfectly 
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Apr 21, 2023 21:23
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write a few posts, wait a month or three, write an "i'm not dead, promise" post, vanish forever
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CPColin posted:I streamed myself wandering through AlphaWorld once and had to quit and delete the VOD because somebody's front yard had been vandalized by the N word over and over Ahhh, the spirit of Old Web 1.0...
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Apr 21, 2023 22:26
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Nemo2342 posted:Please describe to her what the original Diablo 1 online experience was like; I still have a hard time believing that was real and I was playing the game in its heyday. Everyone looked the same because everyone had duped armor
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Apr 21, 2023 22:28
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Oh yeah, I found a much better area later and streamed that too: https://twitch.tv/videos/1276210963
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Apr 21, 2023 22:34
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Oh hey the Gungriffon II translation is in alpha now. JP text in images is still as is and 2P mode (via link cable) is not translated yet but the rest of the text is done: https://segaxtreme.net/resources/gungriffon-ii-english-localized.114/
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Apr 21, 2023 23:56
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holefoods posted:Everyone looked the same because everyone had duped armor Also because there were programs to one other players inventories. And the character files were saved locally so you could edit them to hell and back. Plus you regularly had to look up the latest cheat programs if you played in public since they were the only way to keep from being insta-killed by other cheaters. Just so much poo poo that wouldn’t fly these days.
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CPColin posted:Oh yeah, I found a much better area later and streamed that too: I think there's a way to archive it too but from what I can tell no one has. There are bots that just sorta scrape through the whole world, archiving everything (and the client does this with a normal player too, it makes a cache that can be used offline.) But Alpha World is very big so this would probably take a while and it costs like 30 dollars to get the ability to use bots (which, probably a handful of people buying stuff like that every year is what it takes to keep the servers running given how low the usercount is.) But I think I'm gonna try to do it. Sucks because the tools are old and Windows only and last I saw a Windows vps had annoying license things over a Linux one but I'm not confident this dead game is gonna go on forever. Put out some feelers in their subreddit, to see if anyone knows anything or could help and we'll see where this goes. Like yeah it sucks as a game now but back in the 90s activeworlds was insane. And there's just so much stuff there.
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BrainDance posted:What is it that actually killed it? Nothing killed it it's still there. You just don't see it. https://www.best-electronics-ca.com/ web 1.0 spirit animal
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Djarum posted:So much of the 90s internet in general is gone and forgotten. Early mp3, emulation, hacking/phreaking and warez were all generally collected on the same sites so it was incredibly common for people to get exposed to all of it at once. The glory days of going on usenet or IRC and learning about some brand new thing every day was magical. Also the feeling of going into a community where everyone there was a lot like you was incredible for someone like myself where I could talk about stuff to people who knew exactly what we were all talking about. Not having to dumb down my conversation or hide my interests was liberating and I still have friends that I made then that I talk to 30 years later. its funny, the glory days felt well in the past. when you read about those hackers/phreakers it's all like "I could type that command in the terminal!" or "I could emit that tone into a phone!" then it says PS THE STORY GIZMO DOESN'T WORK ANY MORE. then in the next entry it says "We have found a way to make a new magic gizmo that works again!" and you're like hell yeah! but you didn't look at the date; it also hasn't worked since 1980. and all those stanford and mit gents and poo poo, of course women didn't seem to be mentioned much in these stories but they were there, who collected the literal first computer bug (its in a museum) and invented all the stuff in the Jargon File, which would have been a good... less than a week's reading to get through the whole thing. it was pretty big. the people who were retired from writing those when i was reading them, they'd have been middle aged when i was ten, they were reminiscing about times usually 15+ years from when ... i'm trying to calculate when the super juicy and accessible hackable everything era was. good times. they loved pranks and trains, those mit gents, too. the prank-focused libraries were loving bizarre! cause they had writeups by these mit train/dj guys, you got used to that I-Am-19-and-Im-Arch-comma-Underdog tenor, and then there was just a stack of loving idiotic American University Boys who had also written up their weird hateful pranks that were not exactly feats of engineering. good times.
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Mescal posted:and all those stanford and mit gents and poo poo, of course women didn't seem to be mentioned much in these stories but they were there, who collected the literal first computer bug (its in a museum) It's not the actual first bug. The team had already talked about problems in programs as "bugs" for a while. When the moth was found it was kept because it was a joke on the term they were already using.
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holefoods posted:Everyone looked the same because everyone had duped armor GODLY PLATE OF THE WHALE
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Silhouette posted:GODLY PLATE OF THE WHALE Back before we knew that those were impossible to get legit.
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Silhouette posted:GODLY PLATE OF THE WHALE lol What were some of the other ones? Kings Sword of Speed?
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Nemo2342 posted:Back before we knew that those were impossible to get legit. You can legit get one as a breastplate.
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Mescal posted:mit gents and poo poo, of course women didn't seem to be mentioned much in these stories but they were there, who collected the literal first computer bug (its in a museum) I'm sure you didn't mean anything by it, but that's an especially odd way of introducing an anecdote whose protagonist, famously, was Grace Hopper.
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a new gameboy to gameboy color conversion dropped https://twitter.com/kkzero2015/status/1649625801736830976
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So many of these to enjoy on my Analogue Pocket when it arrives in a few months.
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Good soup! posted:lol Zodiac jewelry was also popular.
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repiv posted:a new gameboy to gameboy color conversion dropped That looks really great!
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Oh hey PinkKittyRose was streaming that on Twitch this morning
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lost in postation posted:I'm sure you didn't mean anything by it, but that's an especially odd way of introducing an anecdote whose protagonist, famously, was Grace Hopper. Yeah I mentioned it cause it just the occurred to me how strange it was those stories never mentioned women
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Mescal posted:Yeah I mentioned it cause it just the occurred to me how strange it was those stories never mentioned women Whoops, yeah, I read that a little too fast. Makes a ton more sense that way!
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repiv posted:a new gameboy to gameboy color conversion dropped Oh man, this was one of the few GB games I owned as a kid that I actually liked. Playing now, it's perfect on the 353v. I love how this game trolls you for not grabbing the right power. "No I don't want the stupid rock, I just found the cool blade slash again!" <enters long downward vertical shaft full of enemies & slopes>
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Good soup! posted:lol Kings Sword of Haste I think. Also every sorcerer had a Staff of Apocalypse.
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BrainDance posted:I think there's a way to archive it too but from what I can tell no one has. There are bots that just sorta scrape through the whole world, archiving everything (and the client does this with a normal player too, it makes a cache that can be used offline.) It's way off topic for this thread so I don't want to go into too much detail but still, we're in the retro games forum so people have an interest in preservation. After bringing this up I got deep into this, and through private messages and back channels I did end up talking to people who had actually archived at least the main world of Active Worlds (and I have ways to actually use the archives) holy poo poo the actual AW devs and owners were very hostile to any effort to archive it, which is why I had to go do all this in PMs with people. It was near impossible to talk in the open about this. But gently caress them, and, it is archived, and after it was archived they straight up banned bots and banned everyone involved lol. And that actually ended a lot of 3rd party experimental AW stuff (like, a VR client was developed but after the dude got banned for archiving AW he told me he lost all motivation to continue it. So it works, but not as well as it could) but I got all the pieces together now that if it ever disappeared I could put it back together pretty easily (though with an older version, since the newer versions became incredibly hostile towards preservation efforts and private servers) I guess it's a reminder that even though to me it's just a necessary and good thing, there's a little bit of piracy involved in preservation. But, nearly 30 years of user generated content is more important than their 100 users a year few hundred bucks they make every once in a while.
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Theotus posted:Kings Sword of Haste I think. Also every sorcerer had a Staff of Apocalypse. Kings sword of speed and kings sword of haste are the same thing. You can shop both at Griswold.
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laserghost posted:I'd recomend playing Nathalie Lawheads' Tetrageddon, which was the original work Jay Tholen based Hypnospace off https://twitter.com/alienmelon/status/1523384247867781121 this again? I saw a presentation of Tetrageddon at Fantastic Arcade and found it compelling. i hadn't even played the dang thing before making Hypnospace and frankly I regret my tweet complimenting the work now. most of what Nathalie lists are things that were common to operating systems of the day or the early web experience. the other things can be traced to the 2014 prequel I made called Hypnospace Enforcer, which predates me even knowing about Tetrageddon and involves similar themes. also some of the listed things aren't even IN Hypnospace so I kind of doubt Nathalie actually played it. (a secret police? lol) either way, mine is a relatively dry period piece mystery game and Tetrageddon is not that. it's so frustrating to spend 5 years of one's life on a project only to have someone invent a narrative that you swiped it from them. in actuality I swiped it from a year of dot com history research and my own formative years using computers. jeeeeeeez. Gaspy Conana fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Apr 27, 2023 |
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Gaspy Conana posted:this again? I saw a presentation of Tetrageddon at Fantastic Arcade and found it compelling. i hadn't even played the dang thing before making Hypnospace and frankly I regret my tweet complimenting the work now. Even if they were first, it's a meaningless prize. High concepts are not protectable. Hypnospace is a rad game and I'm glad it did well for you.
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I tried tetrageddon the other day and it reminded me of Windows RG and similar Flash stuff more
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leper khan posted:High concepts are not protectable. If you read the thread that is actually their point, that them and a lot of other people have been working in that space and style for a long time, so being accused of ripping of Hypnospace sucks.
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Hel posted:If you read the thread that is actually their point, that them and a lot of other people have been working in that space and style for a long time, so being accused of ripping of Hypnospace sucks. Right. That's not a real thing. It's probably not best to develop games for external validation regardless, but there isn't a lot of point getting upset about fake feedback. To the gaming audience "ripping off X" just means "similar to X but I don't like it as much". If it's similar to X but they like it, they don't call it "ripping off" even if there are more and stronger similarities.
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