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Me watching Duke to just watch a basketball game without thinking about how these dudes fit in the NBA: wow this team is so talented they are going to win the NCAA easy this year. Me watching Duke to scout these dudes: Actually only Zion is actually good. (very early in the process take though) I see a lot of flaws with Zion but I have a hard time seeing anyone else come close to the total package, I don't think there's been anyone like this since I started doing this, so it almost feels sort of silly to chop at him for things. The biggest thing is he really needs to stop diving for the ball, really needs to stop jumping 40 feet to block a shot then landing on his stomach. He's gonna get h urt if he keeps this up and that should not happen. Rick fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Feb 20, 2019 |
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No that is the correct take. And yeah the playing way too recklessly thing is another way Zion is like Young Blake.
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Feb 20, 2019 07:29
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The Ringer put out their lottery board today https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/2/20/18232463/2019-nba-draft-big-board-february
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I like Culver in the mid-lottery but 2????????
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I guess his stock really depends on if he's actually grown past his listed height? that seems like a stretch though, but I guess stranger things have happened
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Feb 20, 2019 18:12
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I'd believe that he's in the 6'7" or 6'8" range but they seem to just be taking it as fact that he's going to wind up at 6'10" or 6'11" for some reason.
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They admit a few paragraphs later that Barrett will probably end up No. 2 so it kind of mostly feels like DRIVING THE CONVERSATION
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culver’s probably top 5 but not top 2
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Zion is a superstar. He has Obama coming to see him in person.
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OH M Y GOD NO I JINXED HIM
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hopefully he’s okay, it didn’t look like a horrible landing, maybe just a sprain
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lol zion is loving dead
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Paul Zuvella posted:lol zion is loving dead k says the injury is a mild sprain for whatever that’s worth
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Declan MacManus posted:k says the injury is a mild sprain for whatever that’s worth Nothing but we can hope
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real interested to see how cam reddish and rj barrett end up doing with zion out
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If you have an athletic subscription Vecine is doing a big series where he asks college assistants to give him their anonymous thoughts on potential first rounders. I am normally not a huge fan of the "anonymous scout with unknown agenda shits on player" genre but he at least seems to get a wide variety of opinions and there's been some good stuff. This Nassir Little bit was so over the top (and, honestly, not entirely unfair) that I couldn't help but laugh:quote:“Hate him (as a player). Absolutely hate him. I think he’s a terrible player. I don’t care that he made a couple of 3s against Virginia Tech because everyone was feeling good. I hate him. I think he’s a bad player. I watched him play like crazy. I did see the McDonald’s and Jordan games. That’s great, he played harder than people in those settings, and people fell in love with that. The practice settings, he was competitive. But I see a guy who has no idea what he’s doing.
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It was enough to get me to do a trial at least. The opinion on the non-Zion Duke guys being so varied was interesting. But man it's hard to find stuff there and it just wants me to read Kamentzky Brothers Lakers stories (nothing against them, they're one of the few tolerable Lakers writers) despite all the other things I've checked.
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St. Johns doesn't have a whole lot of games on TV this year but I guess I got to find another one because man Tre Jones just absolutely wrecked Shamorie Ponds. Guess it's useful as a tool to see what may happen against one of college's closest examples of NBA size but then again not a lot of guys even in the NBA are just going to body a guy for 40 minutes like that either (I might revise my "only Zion on Duke is actually good." Tre is probably good, too. Even though PG defense isn't as valuable in the pros he could be a Pat Beverly style dude if he can hit the same base minimum of offense that Beverly does). Not usually what you see out of guys projected in the first round . . . feels like I've been saying that a lot as I go through this process this season.
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The problem with Jones is that he doesn't shoot it well enough to hold down the Beverly role. He can really defend but I don't think you can hang on to an NBA job for very long as a PG who doesn't contribute on offense at all. I still like Ponds in like the 20s as a scorer off the bench type. Guys who can shoot off the dribble well are still pretty hard to find.
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Yeow, I didn't look at the numbers. I had no idea he was shooting in the 20s from three. I basically am just throwing that game out for Ponds, not only was he getting bodied but he was getting trapped or doubled constantly and that's just not going to happen in the pros.
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Rick posted:Yeow, I didn't look at the numbers. I had no idea he was shooting in the 20s from three. he's actually shooting 35.5% from 3 this year, i think MV was talking about his draft projection. i've liked Ponds for a while, but what does everyone here think of Admiral Schofield?
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Troy Queef posted:he's actually shooting 35.5% from 3 this year, i think MV was talking about his draft projection. He meant Tre Jones, who is shooting under 25%. I like Schofield in like the 20s. He's older which always hurts but he seems like he could be a solid, switchy 3 and D type. The NBA always needs long wings who can shoot and who will try on defense. I like him more than Grant Williams; his shot has been more consistent and he has a more projectable defensive role in the NBA.
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i mean if you like everything a player does then age isn’t really a dealbreaker for me personally; fretting over people’s athletic prime is a little silly
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Declan MacManus posted:i mean if you like everything a player does then age isn’t really a dealbreaker for me personally; fretting over people’s athletic prime is a little silly Eh, there's some pretty decent evidence that it limits their ceiling at least, though obviously there are always exceptions. It's a lot easier to project that a 19 year old is going to dramatically improve his body and skillset at the next level than it is for a guy who is in his 20s and playing against guys who are mostly younger/less experienced. It's not an accident that every halfway decent player projection model features age as one of the factors and values freshman performance more than junior or senior performance. Schofield is probably a safer bet to be a competent rotation player at the next level than someone like Langford, who so far hasn't been able to shoot at all, but he's a lot less likely to become an all star type.
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He's really good.
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Declan MacManus posted:i mean if you like everything a player does then age isn’t really a dealbreaker for me personally; fretting over people’s athletic prime is a little silly I think it's interesting how sophmore wings and guards are more likely to be super-stars by a more restrictive measure, at least in the last 10 years or so. (Kawhi, Pau George, Jim Butt, Jim Hardman, and Steph Currly) Malcom Brogdon has become exactly the player he was projected to be in only a couple years post draft, normally you'd need to wait 4-7 for that. That's one big benefit of these senior wings with championship experience who are do it all guys who just need to sharpen one skill to belong, their prime is coming so you dont have to do as much projection, you just have to erase about 50% of what they did in college because it won't be possible in the pros, because it's such a power -based game.
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Go Zion, gently caress duke
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This is what the baby from the end of Shadow of the Colossus becomes
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Paul Zuvella posted:If anyone is shopping a 1 or a 3/4 get at me!!! Was this supposed to be in the byogm thread?
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DeimosRising posted:Was this supposed to be in the byogm thread? maybe 
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Henchman of Santa posted:This is what the baby from the end of Shadow of the Colossus becomes Z[ICO]N
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Is kobe white a nba prospect? I'm loving his game
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Metapod posted:Is kobe white a nba prospect? I'm loving his game yeah he’s a first rounder, anywhere from the third to fifth best point guard
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Am I going insane or is this video hosed up
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Cool Buff Man posted:Am I going insane or is this video hosed up I mean it's kind of hosed up to dunk on someone that hard.
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Metapod posted:Is kobe white a nba prospect? I'm loving his game Yeah he's a first rounder, seems like he's mostly pegged in the late teens or 20s but I like him more than that. He makes some dumb decisions but he's big, fast, and a really good pull up shooter. Big issue with him is that he might have to be a bench player because I don't think he's really a point guard and he's not long enough to guard most 2s MourningView fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Mar 17, 2019 |
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Pray for me as i do not believe the Grizz will convey this year. I guess I hope for Darius Garland to be healthy
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