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FilthyImp posted:Lassetter is old and boomery would be my guess. He's 62, so not a spring chicken, but probably not older than any other head of any other animation studio. And the stuff most of the movies touch on are stuff from when he would have been like 5 or younger. It's like he writes from the perspective of his dad or something.
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It's second hand I'd guess, boomers have had a stranglehold on pop culture right up to the 90s.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It's second hand I'd guess, boomers have had a stranglehold on pop culture right up to the 90s. And now its the 80s kids who have a stranglehold on pop culture.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It's second hand I'd guess, boomers have had a stranglehold on pop culture right up to the 90s. True, it's just weird how omnipresent it is specifically in pixar. Especially since their stories aren't largely super regressive otherwise. They are just set in a world where a lot of 1950s and 60s logic and social structures still exist or deal with problems that people who are much older than the children seeing the movie or the parents seeing the movie with their kids are dealing with. In a way similar movies from other studios don't.
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Jun 17, 2019 00:29
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Pop Culture in general has this thing about universalizing experiences and cultural markers. Like the big capstone events in Stranger Things are, like, Winter Formal. Kids now hardly give half a poo poo about school events like that. Someone mentioned how TV makes it seem like kids from 6th grade have whole lockers to manage. Same thing. Millennials are just old enough to know about stuff like the Woody And Friends Adventure Hour sponsored by Nestle thanks to osmosis. In 10 years we'll be getting kids having misadventures waiting for the midnight release of Patriot's Valor 3
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FilthyImp posted:Someone mentioned how TV makes it seem like kids from 6th grade have whole lockers to manage. Same thing. That was also me! Once I got thinking about it I can’t stop noticing
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Jun 17, 2019 02:30
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I think that argument came up elsewhere, and it seems part of the issue is that a lot of schools do things differently. Some media does lean into a more accurate view of middle school and primary school (the distinction between middle school and high school doesn't really exist in my country that I'm aware of, just making things more confusing) while others go the other direction and deliberately get surreal, often making school into a microcosm of adult society like in Recess or Fillmore! (I remember Heathers having the psycho dude say something like that, and that movie was way too prescient) If anything there seems to have been a bit of a move away from school settings in cartoons, or maybe rather a cyclical one, probably because producers think because all kids are in school they must identify the most with kids in school, while the writers desperately want to get away from it much like most of the kids do. I also think the high school thing probably has some appeal because kids always want to seem and feel more mature than they actually are, and will gladly watch stuff that seems intended for people older than them while generally desperately shun anything that looks too 'kiddy'. While Japan has the whole high school thing apparently probably because high school was the last time that most people felt they were allowed to have a personality and hobbies.
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Jun 17, 2019 09:30
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Or because they're uncomfortably obsessed with high school girls.
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A lot of it is adaptations of existing media that are targeted at high schoolers but there's definitely a whole mess of venn diagrams at play.
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Jun 17, 2019 14:25
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I don't think media targeted at kids dealing with school is any more or less inaccurate or stratified than any other thing, it's just that when you're a small child who hasn't developed their critical capacities and don't have actual experiences to compare it to you just take it at face value. Kids get stuffed into big lockers and have free periods where they sit around talking unsupervised, offices have prank wars that waste hours or days of work time, and every retail store uses validated parking.
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I don't even remember subscribing to this guy but he posted an awesome video essay about how Rango shines in a sea of samey talking animal animated films. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RKMrHhOZBM
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Jun 18, 2019 02:39
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Rango remains one of the best animated films, I've ranted about it before also.
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yeah, rango is genuinely incredible and I was completely unprepared for how good it was when I saw it. I don't even remember what was the catalyst, I think my girlfriend at the time wanted to see something neither of us had seen and it happened to pop up on the suggestions so we just went headfirst in and enjoyed it immensely. one of those rare utterly blind watches that turned out to be a home run. looking at the numbers, it seems to have been somewhat of a bomb when it released, which while unsurprising does suck.
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I'm strongly anti-Rango but I'll watch that video to hear a counterargument
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Captain Invictus posted:yeah, rango is genuinely incredible and I was completely unprepared for how good it was when I saw it. I don't even remember what was the catalyst, I think my girlfriend at the time wanted to see something neither of us had seen and it happened to pop up on the suggestions so we just went headfirst in and enjoyed it immensely. one of those rare utterly blind watches that turned out to be a home run. I saw it once in Prague with English subtitles as well which was rad. It might be my most re-watched animated film (though largely in a passive "on when I'm doing other things" way). The road-crossing scene Got me.
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I loved the behind the scenes. Since it was ilm they approached it in a bit more vfx-y way and the animators already knew a ton about creature movement but then they got to flex their lesser used character animation muscles with the help of live action ref of all the Hollywood actors doing the scenes. Usually on an animated film you just get ref of the actors in a sound booth which gives some acting ideas but not much. With the full blown reference they had more time to decide “how would Johnny Depps acting translate to this creature” instead of having to first come up with the performance from scratch.
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Rango was great but the star of that movie for me was Rattlesnake Jake. He just ate up every scene he was in, he was so good. I will say, I think the action scenes in Rango are good but I don't think it's the best like the guy in the video thinks, I think any action scene with the Madagascar Penguins, whether in their own movie, or in the third Madagascar (or even the second one where they are landing the plane), are on a whole other level than any other action movie. They do things you really can't do without animation. The big long continuous shot of the penguins falling from airplane to airplane in the Penguins movie is bonkers. I wish more animated movies were willing to go as off the rails as Dreamworks does when doing any of the penguin action scenes
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Jun 18, 2019 04:09
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See also: Spielberg's Tintin movie.
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Jun 18, 2019 04:59
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I loving loved Tintin and wish it had done better.
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Captain Invictus posted:I loving loved Tintin and wish it had done better. I wish the sequel would come out.
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Jun 18, 2019 05:58
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Rango made me incredibly thirsty.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Rango made me incredibly thirsty. I mean I try not to kinkshame but wow.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Rango made me incredibly thirsty. I had the same thing with Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs. It made me really want burgers and spaghetti
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Captain Invictus posted:I loving loved Tintin and wish it had done better. Same I didn't grow up with the books so I walked in cold but it was simultaneously very pleasant and invigorating
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The Tintin movie is really weird for me because while I like it a lot it’s in a completely different way from the comics. I like the comics for their humor and character interactions, with even the more serious moments punctuated with a joke on nearly every page. The action is mostly an afterthought to me. But the film is all about the action scenes; they’re some of the most ludicrous set pieces I’ve ever seen. I normally hate Peter Jackson’s unbelievably deadly action sequences because seeing real life people go through a Donkey Kong Country level just immediately takes me out of the film. But do the same thing with cartoon characters and I’m fully engaged. I wish Peter would do more animation because that’s where his sensibilities actually work. It’s weird for an adaptation to so thoroughly miss what I like about a beloved series and for me to still like it anyway.
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Pigbuster posted:The Tintin movie is really weird for me because while I like it a lot it’s in a completely different way from the comics. I like the comics for their humor and character interactions, with even the more serious moments punctuated with a joke on nearly every page. The action is mostly an afterthought to me. But the film is all about the action scenes; they’re some of the most ludicrous set pieces I’ve ever seen. I normally hate Peter Jackson’s unbelievably deadly action sequences because seeing real life people go through a Donkey Kong Country level just immediately takes me out of the film. But do the same thing with cartoon characters and I’m fully engaged. I wish Peter would do more animation because that’s where his sensibilities actually work. I loved the part at the end where Haddock is swordfighting with the bad guy but instead of swords they are clashing with cranes I think that was that movie.
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Trailer #2 for the Dragon Quest V movie. drat this looks good.
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I’m really looking forward to seeing that movie around the same time I get my hands on Dragon quest 11 for Switch.
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https://twitter.com/pixar/status/1141375108642217985?s=21
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It's like the soul but it's a company 
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^^^ Goddamn't!! Can't wait to see how human souls end up working at an office or a factory or whatever.
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The movie starts with an old man on his deathbed, surrounded by family. He tells them how proud he is of them all and that he loves them. His eyes close for the final time and the audience waits to see what this depiction of the afterlife is. Screen fades to black. Then stays that way. An hour and a half of nothing later the credits roll.
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Huh, two non-sequel Pixar movies coming out next year?
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Jun 19, 2019 17:28
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Wait, Pixar already made Coco.
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Pixar already made Inside Out
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Pixar already made Monsters, Incorporated
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Pixar already made the incredibles (because what if superheroes were a bureaucracy)
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Jun 19, 2019 17:46
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Finally, the foot-fetish movie I've been waiting for.
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Macaluso posted:Huh, two non-sequel Pixar movies coming out next year? Although I only saw Inside Out in theaters.
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Turns out the answer to the important question is to not sue your employer for wage fixing and other anti trust violations. Weird message, but I guess it’s write what you know.
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