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Running concurrent with WitE, this gives you a real sense of the scope of the eastern front- there both sides are spending a combined 100k men a week in massive clashes, whereas here 20,000 men is a big-rear end force.
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steinrokkan posted:So in this universe are you invading the Eurasian Soviet Union, or is this not part of the Gary Grigsby's Grey Hunter Cinematic Universe? It might be the universe of his original War in the East.
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Tevery Best posted:It might be the universe of his original War in the East. Who knows, maybe all my Allied LPs are one universe and my Axis another?
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Grey Hunter posted:Who knows, maybe all my Allied LPs are one universe and my Axis another? Who is the Man In The Croctopus Tub? e: Do we still have a Hearts of Iron IV and/or Kaiserreich thread? I haven't played since HOI 2, I've been reading the Communist Manifesto for the first time and I'm itching to paint the world red on my computer. Pershing fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Jan 3, 2019 |
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Pershing posted:Who is the Man In The Croctopus Tub? The Man in the High Sandcastle, naturally.
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Pershing posted:Who is the Man In The Croctopus Tub? We sure do, here it is.
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ManifunkDestiny posted:Air combat is really uninteresting in this. 
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  Nothing beyond continued panic.  The “raids” column shows Düsseldorf and Wesseling took the brunt of the bombs this week.  Fuel production sites are the main target this week, and they take 40-50% damage in the target area. Hitting their fuel is a good long term stratergy.  The Germans are isolated, time to start hunting them down.  They are well supplied and in good defensive terrain, so this will take a while. These attacks are more about making them use their precious.  Though, it won't take THAT long.  I hem the Italians in, and take another port.  One more strike for luck.
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Should I be worried about that mechanized infantry unit parked in Messina, on the northern tip of the island?
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The out of supply units didn't immediately surrender or rout. That's a change from the WitE engine. I'm surprised the combat calc is giving them better than even odds.
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Radio Free Kobold posted:Should I be worried about that mechanized infantry unit parked in Messina, on the northern tip of the island? Worst they could do is breakup the encirclement, which frankly the Germans were dumb to get stuck in in the first place. I guess Hitler ordered the Hermann Goring division not to retreat
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Grey Hunter posted:They are well supplied and in good defensive terrain, so this will take a while. These attacks are more about making them use their precious.  
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At this point the Greyverse timelines are so snarled, movies and games are now bleeding into these realities. You remember our venerable grog game, opaque and Byzantine...
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Radio Free Kobold posted:Should I be worried about that mechanized infantry unit parked in Messina, on the northern tip of the island? Also in game terms the Germans aren't programmed to do much attacking they mostly fall back to pre designed rally points. So it would be unlikely.
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How does this game work wrt D Day? Is it something you plan and execute on your own, or are you railroaded to follow historical scenarios?
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In the actual war, most of the German units were withdrawn from Sicily in good order and promptly put to work defending Italy from Mark Clark and his crew. In overall command of the Germans was Albert "Smiling Al" Kesselring, a tremendously skilled commander who served in both World Wars and was one of the chief architects of the Luftwaffe. Cutting off the German escape and forcing their surrender will make Grey's invasion of Italy proper easier.
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steinrokkan posted:How does this game work wrt D Day? Is it something you plan and execute on your own, or are you railroaded to follow historical scenarios? You can D Day wherever you want. Again, Grey will win eventually so he can do some of the wackier ideas, like Western France, Carentan Peninsula for shits and giggles. In theory the grand strategic reasons make sense for Normandy Beach but again we know we wont lose and can do whatever we want.
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The obviously correct D-Day target in this timeline is Hamburg. No, I don't mean the mouth of the Elbe with Hamburg being the first major target ashore. I mean Hamburg.
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algebra testes posted:You can D Day wherever you want. Again, Grey will win eventually so he can do some of the wackier ideas, like Western France, Carentan Peninsula for shits and giggles. I thought we decided that grey's going to attack through the soft underbelly of Europe, "the Balkans".
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Would be better to prevent Hitler's clones from escaping, so invade through the Falklands and go from there
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Land at Gallipoli and push up through the Balkans. It'll work this time, we swear!
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Land in the Balkans and at Danzig and meet in the middle, cutting off the Commies from the rest of Europe. Call it Operation Iron Curtain.
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HisMajestyBOB posted:Land in the Balkans and at Danzig and meet in the middle, cutting off the Commies from the rest of Europe. Call it Operation Iron Curtain. Operation Dibsies must be done
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  Oddly enough, the German phase is the only time you get to see what damage your bombers are doing in an easy to digest manner.  Otherwise, again nothing happens.  A few more tweaks.  Grey finds a new button. Face  Their fuel production has been hammered again, and I've also hit their railyard in Hamm hard.  Down south I hit the rail lines, I assume this is losses in strategic movement points – if so, this is effective use of planes!  The Italians are now cut off. Let the mass surrenders begin!  Wait, held? I thought these were Italians?  Oh wait, there we go.  I start advancing on the other side of the island.  The Germans take a few attacks to shift, but I shift them from their prepared defences.  Then the surrendering starts.  I mean, would you want to mess with General “gently caress Hitler for demonising this style of moustache” Martin up there?  All in all, I leave them in a poor state by the end.  40,000 men captured along with 105 armoured vehicles – do you think they need 30 MkIV's, 42 MKIII's and 26 STUGs?
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How did the Panzer division shatter and not surrender? Did the survivors swim to the mainland or something?
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The defender CV went from 100 to 83, and then the attacker CV went from 64 to 26. Patton must have had the runs or something that day. sum posted:How did the Panzer division shatter and not surrender? Did the survivors swim to the mainland or something? Shattering happens when the conditions for a retreat exist, and we know they do because the 3/15th Panzergrenadier Division only retreated within that same combat, but the unit is so badly mauled in the fight that they do not retreat in good order, and do not even rout in bad order, but simply disintegrate entirely. It's rare and generally uncontrollable, but it's one of the few (possibly the only?) way to completely delete a unit from the map without having to encircle them.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Shattering happens when the conditions for a retreat exist, and we know they do because the 3/15th Panzergrenadier Division only retreated within that same combat, but the unit is so badly mauled in the fight that they do not retreat in good order, and do not even rout in bad order, but simply disintegrate entirely.
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gradenko_2000 posted:The defender CV went from 100 to 83, and then the attacker CV went from 64 to 26. Patton must have had the runs or something that day.cle them. Yeah, this was a joke - the attack had small chances of succeeding, but it uses up their supplies, so puts me in good sted to wipe them out next turn!
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The Narrator posted:Is this just a bunch of Germans running off into the Sicilian countryside to find an Italian wife, get a job at a bakery and try not to speak too loudly for the rest of their days?  Grey, can we please have a CYOA about the postwar adventures of Heinricchio von Steinizzi, baker’s apprentice?
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Oh yay, I missed this thread until today. I love to hate to love to hate WitW, so glad to see it getting the Grey Hunter treatment now! Have you ever switched off of using the automated air controls in any test games you did? I found in a few of the Italy-only scenarios that it's kinda damned if you do, damned if you don't, as the Air Planning AI has a hard time covering your rear end if you decide to go off the historical rails... stuff like not covering naval interdiction at all when I try to do landings in the heel of the boot, etc.
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I forgot about Pilot Nap Time. Also you can turn off firebombing iirc. My experiences match Drones, I found the AI airplanner always gets better results than you but also sometimes doesn't follow your advances.
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