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Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

CharlestheHammer posted:

I mean not really?

Like Musk talks about unbanning trump forFS, but also acknowledged deleting tweets and shadow banning need to be a thing.

I don’t think he has a coherent reasoning

If you think about it as "Free Speech (for him and who he chooses)" plus a side helping of more attention for him it makes a lot more sense.

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Involuntary Sparkle
Aug 12, 2004

Chemo-kitties can have “accidents” too!

I'm looking at RSU lady's comments and I'm really wishing she'd listened to her past self

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You shouldn't buy a house you cant afford 2008 showed the world that

She mentions the husband having a gambling addiction, it really sounds like he pushed her into this as another form of gambling.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Chaotic Flame posted:

Split/Second is amazing and I'm sad we'll never see a sequel

DACK FAYDEN posted:

I thought I was the only person (okay, maybe other than the Penny Arcade guys because that's how I heard of it) to have bought Split/Second! Game slapped.

God that game is so good, and in BWM content it's still $20 on steam.

So good.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

Aces High posted:

Which is worse, banks owning Twitter or Musk?

Musk owning it would definitely be funnier.

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

Aces High posted:

Which is worse, banks owning Twitter or Musk?

I'd love to see banks owning Musk. Maybe we can convince them his hair plugs are valuable can get them to sell them off.

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007

Weatherman posted:

I'd love to see banks owning Musk. Maybe we can convince them his hair plugs are valuable can get them to sell them off.

OTOH if Twitter stock tanks soon won't the banks own both?

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
Coinbase lost 19% of its value overnight and can't currently pay its creditors.

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1524372254993399808

It said it is making disclosures about what would happen if they declare bankruptcy, but only because they are required by new regulations. They say bankruptcy is one of many possible options and stress that there is currently "no risk" of bankruptcy. But, they are giving a warning and saying that everyone will lose access to all of their crypto currency and they will used to pay off the company's debt if they do.

Don't worry, they have a comprehensive explanation for why everything is fine and you definitely should not pull your crypto out right now: It is. Just trust us.

https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/1524233480040710144?s=20&t=unCRUXT7-mCmFZnCVTymKg

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Coinbase said in its earnings report Tuesday that it holds $256 billion in both fiat currencies and cryptocurrencies on behalf of its customers. Yet the exchange noted that in the event it ever declared bankruptcy, “the crypto assets we hold in custody on behalf of our customers could be subject to bankruptcy proceedings.” Coinbase users would become “general unsecured creditors,” meaning they have no right to claim any specific property from the exchange in proceedings. Their funds would become inaccessible.

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An individual's ownership of cryptocurrency is supposed to be immutable and absolute; that's one of the key selling points touted by blockchain evangelists everywhere. But when a user creates a Coinbase account, they often end up storing their cryptocurrency in a wallet controlled by Coinbase, which means the individual is giving away at least part of their control over their own funds.

Access to a crypto wallet is governed by a private key, which is a long string of characters that effectively acts as a password. Without the key, the cryptocurrency in the wallet can't be accessed. On Coinbase, the exchange holds the private key and lets users access the funds within the wallet using a more conventional password. The setup makes it easier for users to enter their accounts, by remembering an easier password.

Yet it means that, when push comes to shove, Coinbase ultimately governs whether a user gets access to those assets.

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Coinbase does offer a self-custody wallet, titled “Coinbase Wallet”, where the user knows their private key, and a Coinbase Wallet—or any crypto wallet—is not required to trade crypto on Coinbase. But by admitting that crypto assets aren't secure in the event of a bankruptcy, Coinbase is also highlighting a major difference between storing your funds with blockchain exchanges, versus keeping cash with traditional banks.

Bank accounts in the U.S. are protected by deposit insurance offered by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. In the event a bank fails, the FDIC steps in to protect deposits up to $250,000, preventing depositors from going broke along with the bank. Crypto exchanges don't offer that same protection—which is the primary reason why crypto enthusiasts advise investors to hold their cryptocurrency in a personal wallet, rather than on an exchange.

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The crypto exchange's stock price is now down to 80% below its Nasdaq debut in April 2021. Besides reporting a declining user base and lower than expected revenue, trading volume on the Coinbase exchange declined from $547 billion to $309 billion in the first quarter, over the same period last year. Coinbase warned that trading volume was likely to decline further in the current quarter.

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

Speaking of crypto, the twitter related tweets algorithm unintentionally wrote a funny story:

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

Every square nanoangstrom of my body yearns for a coinbase bankruptcy. Every... uh... microestus of my soul craves it.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

gschmidl posted:

Every square mangosteen
Is what I read

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


mrmcd posted:

Speaking of crypto, the twitter related tweets algorithm unintentionally wrote a funny story:



Crypto.jpg

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
Still believes/is too deep in sunk cost fallacy to stop being involved in crypto after losing 70% of his savings.

(Since his post, Luna has lost 98% of its value and Luna was supposed to be a "stable coin")

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I lost everything and I don’t know what to do or where to go.

I lost 70% of my savings in LUNA. I thought I had some knowledge about DeFi and knowledge about what a successful project is but it appears I don’t know anything and don’t know how to do any research.

I chose to trust an altcoin (LUNA) out of all the other altcoins. I didn’t believe in any other altcoin, but the one I trusted happened to be the only one that completely failed by design out of every other top altcoin. And I thought I have read enough to have the confidence to make decisions. My friends are laughing at me too because it makes things much better according to them.

I have no confidence to invest in anything anymore, and also no confidence to take the rest of my crypto savings back to fiat. I can’t make any decision with my money. I can’t do anything right now. I don’t know what’s the point of posting but I have nobody to talk to either. I’ve been laughing all morning for no reason at all. Did I spend all that time reading about this ecosystem for nothing? What was I reading? I’ve been fooling myself for over a year? I’m pretty sure anything I do will be wrong and any decision I take will be dumb, I don’t even know where to go or what to do outside of crypto.

But, his crypto brethren have no patience for this possible FUDDster.

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When are people going to learn, just buy BTC and ETH. 99% of the other stuff is garbage

i’m 100% with u on this i only have btc and a few hundred in a few other coins for shits and gigz and i never sell them while they’re down… only at a profit … idk i think do your research and don’t poo poo the bed when things like this happen and hold the gently caress on so it’s not a loss

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Sounds like you didn't do any research. You didn't actually lose the money until you sell. Luna will rebound. They are actually doing you a favor by not letting you sell when it is down almost 100%. Have faith.

Someone directs him to this tweet below: Which links to a page that is soliciting donations to pump up Luna back into solvency (these are donations to the currency and not actually buying the currency). So, he just needs to get the 2% of his life savings left and go all in by donating it to the crypto that took the other 98%.

But, don't worry. The Luna recovery fund will be put back into Luna and when it rockets back up, they will use the proceeds to reimburse everyone who lost money.

https://twitter.com/askthedr/status/1524389740098826240

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Never invest more than you’re willing to loose - ever.

poo poo advice tbqhsenpai. You have to spend money to make money.

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You can't make any decision but you can dump your life savings in LUNA. Guess you have no choice but to buy more

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Consider this a week in Vegas. Save back up and find a new crypto. Getting out of crypto is a poverty mindset. That is how you stay poor. I tried to get my parents to put their retirement in crypto, I even offered to guide them, do all the work, and advise for free. They said no because of a poverty mindset and I tell them that my crypto will always bounce back but their stocks wont. Don't give up.

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You need to look up "diversified portfolio" and do that. It means that inside of your crypto portfolio you have to buy many coins, many stable coins, on many exchanges, keep them on many wallets, minimise the risk of one single event ruining you.

I tell this constantly on here and yet here we are, people well over invested in a single coin for literally no reason at all.

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Listen, someone told me…YOU CAN ALWAYS MAKE MORE MONEY

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Get a job and DCA into algorand. Don't invest more than what you can afford. Algorand has the best tech in the crypto sphere and will survive the bear markets and thrive during the bulls.

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I can't believe you are still asking, take the loss and salvage anything left

LUNA is at $0.8 and I can’t even send UST to exchanges, and UST is at $0.3.

I lost everything nothing is even waiting for me to take the loss. I don’t have anything left. What salvage do I have left?

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This is a risk for all investments. Even crypto can go down.

You cant compare luna to anything else tho. Practically 100% decrease in 48 hours

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Yes, Luna is different. It is a 100% wipeout. Successful crypto with a finite number of coins in the long term can't actually lose value.

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I suggest investing in BTC to get your confidence up. Then invest in CRO (Crypto.com).

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So glad I wasn't able to convince my wife to let me take out 50% of our saving to buy crypto last month

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Relax....the whole financial system, fiat and crypto is down....hang in there.

Fiat is down 98%?

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They lost their money, not everything. People need to recognize the difference.

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Sorry for your misfortune, but I hope you learn the right things from it. I'm sure you've heard the more sensible crypto people say that altcoins are risky, and your portfolio should be dominated by bitcoin and Ethereum, and you shouldn't put all your eggs in one basket. Now you know why. Chase bigger gains if you want, but the risk is real.

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People get greedy. You should chase gains, but be responsible. A responsible investor is 80% BTC. 10% fiat stocks. and no more than 10% alt coins. Take that to heart and learn from this.

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I've lost 90+% for the third time.

2017 crash

April/May 2021

Nov 2021

I cannot control the market.

Don't feel too bad.

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Quick reminder: if you have $10 to your name you’re more wealthy than the majority of the world. We attach too much emotion with money. People survived without it long ago, people still survive without it today. Life goes on.

Telling him to call his Mom and Dad is taking advantage of them for what ultimately was a gambling loss, not a lost investment. If you’re an investor you diversify. If you’re an investor in crypto you diversify AND you don’t risk more than you’re willing to lose. If you’re a gambler, you take unnecessary risks with the potential of great consequence. Luckily, he’s not in a casino, so it’s not house money at this point. It’s just going through a phase and he has a pretty good chance of gaining at least some of his money back. The worst thing he could do is sell. Then it’s “house money”.

Parents aren’t there to take on an adults burdens. Child or not. The only exception in my opinion would be if his parents are well off. Although a gift or a family loan might be enabling him if he re-“invests” the funds. Just have to get creative, focus on poo poo to be grateful for and seek assistance from programs created for situations just like his. Bottom line, sure, life might change. This doesn’t mean it’s time to check out. It’s time to rethink and adapt. Oh…and you def don’t have to do it alone. Keep your head up. Help others. Before he knows it he’ll be gaining again.

tomapot
Apr 7, 2005
Suppose you're thinkin' about a plate o' shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconciousness.
Oven Wrangler

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Still believes/is too deep in sunk cost fallacy to stop being involved in crypto after losing 70% of his savings.

(Since his post, Luna has lost 98% of its value and Luna was supposed to be a "stable coin")

“Stable coin” is like a “reliable junkie”

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

The responsible investor is 80% Bitcoin. Lol

opengl
Sep 16, 2010

quote:

I lost everything and I don’t know what to do or where to go.

I lost 70% of my savings in LUNA. I thought I had some knowledge about DeFi and knowledge about what a successful project is but it appears I don’t know anything and don’t know how to do any research.

I chose to trust an altcoin (LUNA) out of all the other altcoins. I didn’t believe in any other altcoin, but the one I trusted happened to be the only one that completely failed by design out of every other top altcoin. And I thought I have read enough to have the confidence to make decisions. My friends are laughing at me too because it makes things much better according to them.

I have no confidence to invest in anything anymore, and also no confidence to take the rest of my crypto savings back to fiat. I can’t make any decision with my money. I can’t do anything right now. I don’t know what’s the point of posting but I have nobody to talk to either. I’ve been laughing all morning for no reason at all. Did I spend all that time reading about this ecosystem for nothing? What was I reading? I’ve been fooling myself for over a year? I’m pretty sure anything I do will be wrong and any decision I take will be dumb, I don’t even know where to go or what to do outside of crypto.

BWM: I don’t know anything and don’t know how to do any research.

Edgar Allan Pwned
Apr 4, 2011

Quoth the Raven "I love the power glove. It's so bad..."
Thats crazy. Poverty mindset from not investing in crypto? Continually dumping money and losing it all?? And yeah money is fake but is the basis of survival since we invented it.unless you live on a commune or self sustaining farm

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Edgar Allan Pwned posted:

Thats crazy. Poverty mindset from not investing in crypto? Continually dumping money and losing it all?? And yeah money is fake but is the basis of survival since we invented it.unless you live on a commune or self sustaining farm

Sounds like someone hasn't seen the emojis...



Understand, now?

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


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You need to look up "diversified portfolio" and do that. It means that inside of your crypto portfolio you have to buy many coins, many stable coins, on many exchanges, keep them on many wallets, minimise the risk of one single event ruining you.

I tell this constantly on here and yet here we are, people well over invested in a single coin for literally no reason at all.

Lol. My dude have you heard of correlation and concentration risk???

Magnetic North
Dec 15, 2008

Beware the Forest's Mushrooms

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

Lol. My dude have you heard of correlation and concentration risk???

Actually, I think this is technically idiot-syncratic risk.

doingitwrong
Jul 27, 2013

opengl128 posted:

BWM: I don’t know anything and don’t know how to do any research.

Bought Weird Mooncoin:

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007

doingitwrong posted:

Bought Weird Mooncoin:

lol yes this is a good new title

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
Coinbase slipping closer to seizing all of its users' bitcoin wallets to pay debts.

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Coinbase stock is now down more than 75% this year and is trading nearly 85% below its all-time high price from November. Shares have lost more than half their value in just the past week alone.

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"The first quarter of 2022 continued a trend of both lower crypto asset prices and volatility that began in late 2021," Coinbase said in a letter to shareholders. But the company added that Coinbase remains "as excited as ever about the future of crypto."

Still, investors appeared to be alarmed by new language in Coinbase's quarterly earnings filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission that warned about bankruptcy risks.

The company said that "in the event of a bankruptcy, the crypto assets we hold in custody on behalf of our customers could be subject to bankruptcy proceedings and such customers could be treated as our general unsecured creditors."

https://twitter.com/cnni/status/1524426681863311363

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Coinbase slipping closer to seizing all of its users' bitcoin wallets to pay debts.



https://twitter.com/cnni/status/1524426681863311363

:sickos:

SpartanIvy
May 18, 2007
Hair Elf
Time for crypto to reinvent the 1930s bank runs!

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Agents are GO! posted:

God that game is so good, and in BWM content it's still $20 on steam.
that is indeed BWM, because I had it on PS3 and had no idea it ever had a steam port, oh no

LanceHunter
Nov 12, 2016

Beautiful People Club


doingitwrong posted:

Bought Weird Mooncoin:

Bought Weird Mooncoin: I don’t know anything and don’t know how to do any research.

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



LanceHunter posted:

Bought Weird Mooncoin: I don’t know anything and don’t know how to do any research.

Bought Weird Mooncoin: Stable Coin Mark 69 (Not Stable)

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Coinbase lost 19% of its value overnight and can't currently pay its creditors.

https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1524372254993399808

It said it is making disclosures about what would happen if they declare bankruptcy, but only because they are required by new regulations. They say bankruptcy is one of many possible options and stress that there is currently "no risk" of bankruptcy. But, they are giving a warning and saying that everyone will lose access to all of their crypto currency and they will used to pay off the company's debt if they do.

Don't worry, they have a comprehensive explanation for why everything is fine and you definitely should not pull your crypto out right now: It is. Just trust us.

https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/1524233480040710144?s=20&t=unCRUXT7-mCmFZnCVTymKg

i looked at their SEC filings. unfortunately they don't have that much debt, it's not due until 2028, and it doesn't seem to be secured debt. its possible that a covenant could get tripped making their debt accelerated or the like earlier than that, but it'd still be unsecured debt, meaning that there's not automatically someone ahead of their customers with a big-rear end claim.

there isn't a good reason for them to go bankrupt (they sell shovels) anytime soon unless they do something really loving stupid. it's just their valuation makes no sense if the crypto bubble pops.

wilderthanmild
Jun 21, 2010

Posting shit




Grimey Drawer

opengl128 posted:

BWM: I don’t know anything and don’t know how to do any research.

I feel like from this whole thing this is my favorite line.

BWM: A responsible investor is 80% BTC

Kenning
Jan 11, 2009

I really want to post goatse. Instead I only have these🍄.



LanceHunter posted:

Bought Weird Mooncoin: I don’t know anything and don’t know how to do any research.

Machai
Feb 21, 2013

So if investors are turning themselves piece by piece into bitcoin, does that mean Tron is real?

greazeball
Feb 4, 2003



Buttcoin thread has some good content tonight, you can watch a live performance of "Line Goes Down" here: https://bitcointicker.co/stamp/btc/usd/1hr/

This guy is amazing:


"They were burning a ton of cash, and this couldn't go on forever... which is totally fine!"

"So I kept an eye on this but I wasn't exactly worried about this because again, if the money runs out, it's fine."

Vice President
Jul 4, 2007

I'm number two around here.

greazeball posted:

Buttcoin thread has some good content tonight, you can watch a live performance of "Line Goes Down" here: https://bitcointicker.co/stamp/btc/usd/1hr/

I want to believe somewhere someone has spent an obscene amount of money to build a crypto daytrading command center that's straight out of Wargames and has all these realtime charts on giant wall screens

poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.


Vice President posted:

I want to believe somewhere someone has spent an obscene amount of money to build a crypto daytrading command center that's straight out of Wargames and has all these realtime charts on giant wall screens



It exists but all the screens are playing different animes

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

The only way to win at crypto is not to play.

honda whisperer
Mar 29, 2009

Wtf even is Coinbase and how can they go bankrupt? Are the making loans backed with Bitcoin?

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal

honda whisperer posted:

Wtf even is Coinbase and how can they go bankrupt? Are the making loans backed with Bitcoin?

Base means freebase? They turn Bitcoin investments into smoke?

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

honda whisperer posted:

Wtf even is Coinbase and how can they go bankrupt? Are the making loans backed with Bitcoin?

coinbase is an exchange, they take a cut of all transactions on their exchange

they should make money no matter what happens to crypto, but their ability to make as much money as their idiot investors thought heavily depends on crypto hype pumping up trading volume

they could of course also do something monumentally stupid and go bankrupt, but they shouldn't since the only debt they have isn't due until 2028

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

quote:

Asked to verify Eligible Contract Participant (ECP) for crypto margin trading on Kraken - workaround?

I had recently lost 50k+ margin trading during the recent crypto crash, and I am hoping to recover my funds as crypto markets recover, but I recently got an email from Kraken that I must verify ECP to continue margin trading. This seems kind of unfair as now I cannot recover my funds if I am locked out of margin trading. I would greatly appreciate if I could receive some advice from more experienced investors.

Is there a workaround, such as trading on behalf of my employer, some sort of institution?
Is there a possibility of recovering my funds?
Are there other platforms that offer margin trading cryptocurrency to US customers?

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Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

Boy, when the casino cuts you off, you know you’ve got a problem. Ok, this guy still doesn’t know, but the rest of us do.

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