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chaosapiant posted:Is King’s 100 issue run if Batman done, and was it any good? I have all 10 volumes of the New 52 poo poo and enjoyed pretty much all of it, and would like to continue along the storyline with Rebirth. But the mixed reactions in this thread and my backlog of unread classics makes me hesitant. Results may vary and the run was 85 issues. I would be curious to read how it goes in the long run but reading it as singles seemed to drag at places and there was clear padding. I generally like King more than some posters here but he does have his hang ups and they really seemed more evident in 85 issues than his usual 12 issue runs. I would say that for the most part his run ranges from good to very good depending where you are. He tries some interesting things here and there (like a whole issue dedicated to Bruce Wayne hosting a dinner between the Riddler and the Joker and I generally liked his City of Bane arc despite it being about 3 issues too many. I would say give it a shot and if by the end of I am Suicide ( I think that is the second trade) you figure it isn't for you then you probably won't enjoy the rest of the run.
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I'm very sad Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen is over because it was amazing from start to finish.
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Tavarin posted:I'm very sad Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen is over because it was amazing from start to finish. I'm so excited to finally read the whole series when the TPB comes out this fall. I loved Hawkeye and Sex Criminals so much, I promise to always give Fraction's lighter, irreverent works a chance. Have you read Rucka's Lois Lane series? How is that? It sounds like it could be my poo poo, along with Bendis' Event Leviathan. I always like street-level heroes and noir/espionage/mystery/conspiracy stuff.
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Lois Lane does start off very street-level and espionagey, but by the end it touches on some pretty darn large-scale stuff. Hopefully you're read up on your obscure Rucka-written characters, 'cuz there's gonna be quite a few. Not a whole lot happens in Death Metal #2 besides the issue giving me some momentary hope that we will in fact end up getting to see Dr. Manhattan dickpunched by Superman after all, and then cruelly taking that hope away, but it's got some great fun stuff anyway. No matter what there's really nothing else quite like this event, and I'm looking forward to more.
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https://twitter.com/Polygon/status/1283386617407967233 Tom King is doing another 12 issue series.
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The people are angry, and they are crying out for a misanthropic, diseased return to the sadistic, laissez-faire politics of the 1980s.
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Can't wait for the CIA guy to write a book about this moment in history.
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Stood in firelight, sweltering. Bloodstain on chest like map of violent new continent. Felt cleansed. Felt dark planet turn under my feet and knew what cats know that makes them scream like babies in night. Looked at sky through smoke heavy with human fat and God was not there. The cold, suffocating dark goes on forever and we are alone. Live our lives, lacking anything better to do. Devise reason later. Born from oblivion; bear children, hell-bound as ourselves, go into oblivion. There is nothing else. Existence is random. Has no pattern save what we imagine after staring at it for too long. No meaning save what we choose to impose. This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. Streets stank of fire. The void breathed hard on my heart, turning its illusions to ice, shattering them. Was reborn then, free to vote for Biden.
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Jul 15, 2020 14:42
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Rorshach is an unnecessary book, but drat that's a great cover.
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So...this Death Metal series is really loving dumb.
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Wonder Woman: Dead Earth is the real metal event of right now. Much better spectacle without everything being a pseudo-Batman or carrying a block of Snyder exposition on its shoulders.
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Beerdeer posted:Rorshach is an unnecessary book, but drat that's a great cover. enigmahfc posted:So...this Death Metal series is really loving dumb. I enjoyed the absolute loving idiocy of Spoiler for DM2 exposition saying "We used Manhattan powers against Perpetua and we lost it all! only to have the Big Bad Batman tap into Manhattan powers.... wow, big whoop. Very tired of DC misunderstanding Doc Manhattan.
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blast0rama posted:https://twitter.com/Polygon/status/1283386617407967233  drat cool cover though!
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quote:It’s called Rorschach not because of the character Rorschach, but because what you see in these characters tells you more about yourself than about them. Oh gently caress off Tom King. Death Knights is also terrible. The Batman Who Laughs is the loving worst and continuing to use that character in any way is the fastest way to get me to roll my eyes at the whole thing.
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blast0rama posted:https://twitter.com/Polygon/status/1283386617407967233 https://twitter.com/eds209/status/1283430195995840513?s=19
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Rorschach fiending for those Q drops
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I'm not really sure what makes Death Metal different from Metal. It's still some half baked Final Crisis, but now it has Perpetua and Doctor Manhatten?
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I'm liking death metal, if only for 2 reasons: the Metalverse map is amazing and it looks like the setting of a killer tabletop RPG. And everything is SO hosed that the heroes have basically gone into complete gallows humor. It is the best.
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Open Marriage Night posted:I'm not really sure what makes Death Metal different from Metal. It's still some half baked Final Crisis, but now it has Perpetua and Doctor Manhatten? DEAAAAAAAATH METAAAAAAAAAALLLL is a story about Batman Who Laughs getting the upper hand, reshaping Earth in his image, getting Doc Manhattan powers, making the JL have HARDCORE AWESOME costumes, and supporting Perpetua's conquest until he betrays her probably to make the DARK KNIGHTMAREVERSE
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 Look, I don't get what's so hard to understand about this
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Is Wally still a tragic murderer that is totally trashed as a character?
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He sat on Metron's throne and become Wally West, Dr. Fasthatten. He has blue energy powers and poo poo.
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FilthyImp posted:He sat on Metron's throne and become Wally West, Dr. Fasthatten. At this rate, everyone's going to wind up sitting on Metron's throne at one point or another. Cass Cain? Gonna sit on the throne. Mr. Talky Tawny? Gonna sit on the throne. Darkseid? You know how much he loves chilling on couches, you better believe he's going to sit on that throne!
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Guy Gardner sits on the throne but gains no benefit as he was already free-ballin'.
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Jiro posted:Is Wally still a tragic murderer that is totally trashed as a character? He feels sad about his murders, OK!
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Wally's still a little mopey, but the entire multiverse has turned into a nightmarish hellscape so just about everyone's feeling that mope right along with him atm. Diana's plan to reset everything the right way will, presumably, make Wally less mopey. Either way it's clear he has a big role to play in this. More to the point, I like that the characters here (Diana in the first issue, and then Jay and Barry in the second issue) are actually treating him like a old friend who they can rely on instead of the pitiable weirdo that King turned him into.
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I really liked the "Flash triple hug".
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There's good character moments in Death Metal and that's one of Snyder's stronger points, but the plot overall is just Ugh. The individual components are interesting and cool, but as they're put together it becomes just a bit too much. The giant Trinity Robot is cool and obviously inspired by the Batman/Superman robot that Toyman also made in Batman/Superman
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There was the Superman/Batman robot in Loeb McGuinness's S/B run. Then Scott Snyder introduced giant Batman robots that turned into Giant Batman+Joker and other villain robots in Superheavy/Bloom. And then in the original Metal there were evil robots that the Justice League took over to make a Justice League Voltron with Batman as the head. And now there's another robot that is kind of a mash em up of all of those things, because it's important to have as many different versions of Batman (and I guess the other scrubs) as humanly possible in any event.
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How’s many volumes did they do for the Superman/Batman run that started with vol 1 Crossworlds. I believe it was New 52. Is that still going on? Edit: also, whatever happened to Wrath? I liked him in the New 52 Detective Comics volumes. I actually really enjoyed volumes 1-4 of the New 52 Detective Comics. chaosapiant fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Jul 16, 2020 |
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Edge & Christian posted:There was the Superman/Batman robot in Loeb McGuinness's S/B run. It definitely looks like the Composite Superman/Batman Robot from the Public Enemies arc of the original S/B with some Wonder Woman stuff tacked on. I was actually happy to see it. But, now I'm reminded about how that lead to Captain Atom going to the Wildstorm Universe, and a bunch of stuff happening with Mister Majestic. Guess I'll be spending part of this afternoon looking up what exactly happened with that.
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Man, I’m reading the old Johns JSA and it’s a great representation of team as family, and then bam, Faust is raping Isis. Yuck.
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Is Spurrier on Justice League from now on or is it just a fill in arc?
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Beerdeer posted:Man, I’m reading the old Johns JSA and it’s a great representation of team as family, and then bam, Faust is raping Isis. Yuck. I still love the bit where Jay tells Jakeem to watch his language, he's a superhero and then... yeah, wow did that series fall off as it went on.
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FilthyImp posted:He sat on Metron's throne and become Wally West, Dr. Fasthatten. Except he got beat and apparently lost most of them off screen to Batman Who LMAOS.
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Two Tone Shoes posted:Except he got beat and apparently lost most of them off screen to Batman Who LMAOS. I was very confused about this until I got my Flash Forward TPB in and saw that they rewrote the ending from Flash #750.
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I like how fast Doc Manhattan went from a reality shattering presence in the DC Universe to Green Lantern Ring+
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The more I think about it the more mad I am about the extra pages added to Flash Forward. Completely messes with the hope and recovery aspect of it.
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Just got my Arkham Omnibus in the mail today. This thing is huge, considerably larger than either the Morrison or Knightfall Omnibussessese I have.
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Pioneer42 posted:The more I think about it the more mad I am about the extra pages added to Flash Forward. Completely messes with the hope and recovery aspect of it. I am so beyond tired of every DC story having to be a meta narrative about comic book continuity with a splash page of iconic moments and a character going "It's all missing?"
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